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Maze_EQ 10-06-2017 09:28 PM

Do something --pokes with stick--
 
Someone do something cool and grindy.

Progression is played out.

Nagafen's Lair clones are played out.

LEGGO 100% CUSTOM PROGRESSION BROS.

Cusser 10-06-2017 10:27 PM

I agree with you. I'm working on something for the spring. Flushed every bit of that old progression down the toilet. It's got moldy :P

Maze_EQ 10-06-2017 11:11 PM

Bruh, like, progression gets fucking old.

It's so easy to smash the same content and streamline to server completion in a week.

It's still boring as shit.

I need to build something cool.

Cusser 10-07-2017 12:50 AM

Well, the whole game is setup to progress in some form or another. We only have so many options, unless we trash the basic EQ altogether.
We could always go play World of Tanks, run around killing other tanks, getting your tank better armor and progressing up to a top level
tank. Then get bored and come back and do it with an ogre, instead of Arty :)

Member Berries 10-07-2017 10:26 AM

i want something custom and entertaining like shards of dalaya or thf that i haven't played to death and hasn't been abandoned... preferably without 20 boxing...

J3wish 10-09-2017 04:36 PM

Oh I'm chock full of great ideas for custom servers. To bad I can't translate it from mind to keyboard to code.

Splose 10-10-2017 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maze_EQ (Post 255917)
Someone do something cool and grindy.

Progression is played out.

Nagafen's Lair clones are played out.

LEGGO 100% CUSTOM PROGRESSION BROS.

I still work on my project from time to time.. hard to find motivation lately though been busy.. maybe someday.

Maze_EQ 10-10-2017 02:58 PM

Splose,


go do cool shit again.

I want EQEMU2009 back :(

Excuses 10-12-2017 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J3wish (Post 255939)
Oh I'm chock full of great ideas for custom servers. To bad I can't translate it from mind to keyboard to code.


Get someone code wise to help. I always lack ideas to a point where i over think it. i just prefer building it than thinking about it.

Maze_EQ 10-12-2017 01:54 PM

I'm down to do the codewise shit.

I can't build worlds for shit, and suck at ideas without a massive amount of drugs.

J3wish 10-12-2017 01:57 PM

Give me two weeks Maze and I'll see if I can come up with something.

mjbcb0717 10-12-2017 02:55 PM

I'll be the cheerleader

Excuses 10-12-2017 04:28 PM

id be down if it was going to b a long term project with a team.

Cusser 10-12-2017 07:01 PM

When you scroll up and down that server list on the forum here, it's hard to close your eyes without having "PoP" burned in your mind
from seeing it so many times. It's like the standard model of the EQ vehicle comes off the assembly line with all the basics you see
on that list. PoPower, auto this and that, cruise, tilt, etc., with a trunk full of raid bosses and a gas tank full of experience.
Just exactly how many times do people want to kill Naggy, Vox and Quarm ?
When it comes to "new ideas" for a server, it's impossible to get an inclination of what could attract a (continuous) population.
It's really not a matter of struggling to come up with a unique idea, it's a "meeting of the minds" between players and new servers.
Out in RL, you can do market research before you get something going, but with the overall player base here, you have a better chance
of getting the "SMS recovery" to work, than hearing from the general player base. The only perceptive guess I can come up with, so far,
is many of them just may be looking for something different to do.
So all you can do is take that idea, run with it and spend several months developing it to see if it turned out as a bad idea :P

Splose 10-13-2017 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maze_EQ (Post 255953)
Splose,


go do cool shit again.

I want EQEMU2009 back :(

You and me both.. Honestly the reason I haven't done anything in years is I see the current populations of custom servers and it doesn't look like there's much of a market for it. Like I said though I've been working on my shit off and on never really stopped but lacked motivation.

I have been completely reworking classes from the ground up.. Haven't decided if I want to do all the classes or just lock players to maybe 8 or so. The latter will probably be much easier to manage but I feel like that will turn people off.. I'll make a thread about it in server discussion and I'll see how it goes.

Maze_EQ 10-13-2017 11:57 AM

Hmu on skype man, It'd be nice to work with you again.

Member Berries 10-13-2017 01:12 PM

i think there are more people than the population numbers show. i check back once a week to see if there is any gossip of a well-made, custom server, that still has the soul and visual nostalgia.

mjbcb0717 10-13-2017 01:18 PM

I want a server with black jack and hookers

sprinkle3 10-13-2017 02:08 PM

Luclin server

old bazaar

no box limit

Maze_EQ 10-13-2017 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sprinkle3 (Post 255982)
Luclin server

old bazaar

no box limit

Why? So people can 18 box the entire server in 3 days and lock down all raid targets?

Howbownah

sprinkle3 10-13-2017 02:30 PM

you are not killing any real bosses with 18 in luclin, you can also increase spawn timers for bosses so people can farm more if you wanted

I am just tired of pop and don't want to grind a million AA to be viable in omens or GOD

Gregalimule 10-13-2017 06:26 PM

Im just player side and id kill for a new custom server without bots and a 2-3box limit. Sanctuary was amazing and all but they made it such a time sink then killed player trust with a wipe.

Every new server that comes out recently has been a NL clone with only stuff like the hub changed. Dont get me wrong, i liked pop prog but i cant do that shit agian for the 20th time. Cant agree with maze more on this, somthing new needs to happen so theres somthing worth playing.

Cusser 10-13-2017 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splose (Post 255976)
I see the current populations of custom servers and it doesn't look like there's much of a market for it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gregalimule (Post 255990)
something new needs to happen

I do agree with Splose to a point, but I think the reason the PoP servers going viral is simply people creating their own visions
for that era that they (and the players on them) wanted with custom quality of life added to them. But I am convinced this is all
just a "passive phase", just as it was back when people wanted original classic. Lately I've even seen rants from P99 players
wanting Luclin out of them. But that would defeat the whole purpose of Project "1999". Today they hound for Luclin, then what about
tomorrow, they will want a "1999" era server to advance into PoP or GoD ?
Bored players can be very unforgiving, in badgering a server to start expanding away from it's own goals, just for their own selfish
desires. But even though there is various servers from different eras all the way up to OoW, some players who have toons played
through to Luclin or PoP, don't want to start a new toon on another server, just to get to another expansion release, so they may
get frustrated with servers locked in one particular expansion.
Eventually, those "PoP" players will get bored of that same old shit and will be looking for something new (or new content). I'm
no forecast expert, but I have a feeling, that by late (spring or sooner), a lot of players will welcome custom servers.

Yard Dogg 10-14-2017 11:17 AM

When you look at that list, more specificly, the Legends, Preferred and "upper" white list,
there is 9 PoP'ish era servers. I had a PoP-LoY server up for a week, without advertising it,
and it never seen one active player on it, so I took it down and decided to go to work on
something else. I added up the "average players" on those 9 PoP servers and it's only 286 total
out of the whole 2000-3000 player base that list sees. Those 9 include classic, legit or slightly
customized for solo content. Personally, I think the only way those types of dedicated era servers
would ever get popular is if we seen a big surge of brand new players in the community. What we
have now is a mill run that is getting bored :P

Maze_EQ 10-16-2017 09:38 AM

I am about to grab a case of red bull, a team of autists, and some spandex pants to create the "next big thing".

mjbcb0717 10-16-2017 10:54 AM

Red bulls for children, get some nose candy you'll be good for days.

Maze_EQ 10-16-2017 01:17 PM

Have you even Meth'd?

mjbcb0717 10-16-2017 01:46 PM

Mom said I'm not aloud.

Maze_EQ 10-16-2017 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjbcb0717 (Post 256019)
Mom said I'm not aloud.

Pls lern 2 spell and change yer sig, issa dying.

mjbcb0717 10-17-2017 11:01 AM

Nevur?,.;:'"/!

Splose 10-17-2017 02:53 PM

I'll get something done that's solo-oriented.

Excuses 10-18-2017 10:41 AM

If my country wasn't such morons i would work more on my server and host it at home. But we have so many restrictions it's completely bs.

Maze_EQ 10-18-2017 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excuses (Post 256038)
If my country wasn't such morons i would work more on my server and host it at home. But we have so many restrictions it's completely bs.

r u north korea

Excuses 10-18-2017 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maze_EQ (Post 256039)
r u north korea

God no. Australia.

Maze_EQ 10-18-2017 03:08 PM

Can host for you out of USA, but only if it's a long term goal with baller ass ideas.

Excuses 10-18-2017 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maze_EQ (Post 256042)
Can host for you out of USA, but only if it's a long term goal with baller ass ideas.

Aussies aren't known as boring folk, we are weird and groovey.

Sounds interesting, i may talk to you more about that at some point. I am muscling down on the progression section now, long term is my goal if it comes to be.

rhyotte 10-18-2017 06:43 PM

No Boxing. When you allowing boxing it turns into a "You Must Box or You Suck" fest.

Re-balancing classes would certainly have some tedium to it, but it is not impossible.

I have a few ideas, glad to share, IRC perhaps?

Excuses 10-19-2017 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhyotte (Post 256045)
No Boxing. When you allowing boxing it turns into a "You Must Box or You Suck" fest.

Re-balancing classes would certainly have some tedium to it, but it is not impossible.

I have a few ideas, glad to share, IRC perhaps?

That's only your preference though, regarding boxing. I can and will box max toons because i thoroughly enjoy it. I find the servers that are solo/group -able have max 3 per IP and may allow 1 bot per account.

I think max of 6, min 3, is where it's at, but that is my personal feelings on that as well ^_^

Splose 10-19-2017 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Excuses (Post 256046)
That's only your preference though, regarding boxing. I can and will box max toons because i thoroughly enjoy it.

I tend to agree with this sentiment.. though I've always enjoyed boxing myself.

I've always made a serious effort with all my servers to try an cater to both crowds but this time I have some great ideas to encourage real grouping while at the same time not alienating people who want to box.

My intent this go-around is to make a server where you can log on after work kill some shit and actually progress your character, whether that be through solo play, boxing, or actually grouping with people. The way i'm structuring content I've been careful to make it so it's not 100% necessary to box. I think i've achieved this a lot better than ever before. This is what I've looked for in a game for awhile and haven't really found it.

I'm in the process of revamping classes at the moment it's absolutely mind-numbing which is probably why I haven't had much motivation lately.. I do have about 3 years of sporadic work spread across 2 or 3 databases that I'll have to look at and either combine or scrap as well. This time I'm also going with a real story.

I'll probably take some time out to look at Maze's armor sets script since that's something I've always wanted in the game as well.. Either way, this thread shows that obviously there is a void needing to be filled in the server list and I'd love to do this again. Be on the lookout for EQAwakened in the near future. Really trying to go 100% custom, for those who played Township they should know what I mean.

Excuses 10-19-2017 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splose (Post 256051)
Be on the lookout for EQAwakened in the near future. Really trying to go 100% custom, for those who played Township they should know what I mean.

Sounds like my kind of fun, will definitely keep a keen eye out.

The void is really hard to gander, i would like to create a server to cater for all, but something like that would take months which would be fine, if i could run the local server at home with EoC2 w.out a drama (firewalls and ports are not my fortay + i don't think i can actually do it in australia/modems).

Someone should really create a large poll and find out the players wants etc, then maybe a group get together and create the new *big deal*. Developing on your own can get so boring, haha..


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