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Old 11-05-2017, 02:27 AM
Torven
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The non-damage hate from spells casted from items is capped at 400, unless the spell on the item is castable as a normal spell by the class of the item user.
E.g. the snare whip from Sebilis does the full hate amount if a ranger wields it. Also the shaman slow clickable from PoTime does full hate. Sony apparently just checked for class availability of spells in their spell hate routine instead of passing a 'isproc' parameter. Explains why most weapons use non-castable spells.

Enraging blow and similar spells with 'instant hate' are not reduced for bards like regular spells are.
Tested this and hate measured from the Blade of Carnage proc came out to the full 700 on a bard. Procs from regular spells were capped at the low rate.

The Spell Casting Subtlety AA reduces melee hate as well as spell hate.

Off-hand attacks do not apply the hate from the 1h damage bonus, which is expected since off-hand attacks don't have a damage bonus.
Some old research claimed otherwise, but it's wrong or was changed later so I'm noting it here.

Old research noted that 2h bash hate was 6. Higher level (at the time) bash base damage was also 6, so it's possible/likely that special attack hate was equal to the base damage value.
See Demonstar's thread for special attack base damage values, but this is very unconfirmed. This would make sense however due to the way melee hate = item weapon damage.
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