Save the Wiki NOW - Page 2

Docs · #16 09-06-2007, 10:47 AM

If i may,

Id recommend a few clean up things with reguards to source information being released. FAQ so to speak, like our wiki. Some information needs to be updated, some of it needs to be archived etc..

Control is always a good thing, and id vote for anyone willing to be responsible enough for the Wiki to manage the wiki. We could input our changes, then the mod could review them?

I see many things also changed, the orginal members also moved on like people where saying etc.. I followed it from the beginning, and thus far am very impressed with the amount of dedication that has went into this project.

Keep up the good work you guys, many out there actually really enjoy your work. Id ignore the negitivity coming from some, and do what you do best. I for one am really enjoying the fact it has gone from stale to something obtainable. So much to catch up on.

BTW this account is redone, mine was on the old site.

Lalolyen · #17 09-12-2007, 05:11 AM

Guys, we do still need to keep in mind that the Wiki is a community based system. It is there for callobration, meaning that you contribute some to a page, I contribute a little more to a page, etc. Locking down a wiki like that will be defeating the purpose of a wiki; having an up-to-date dynamic webpage.

Lets get rid of the spammers guys, not the functionallity.

boogerific · #18 09-13-2007, 03:47 PM

For a community-based system, there is a massive shortage of community-based people willing to spend some time cleaning up spam from the wiki. If enough people cleaned up just three or four pages a day (read: 5 minutes or less on a dialup), the wiki would stay pretty clean.

Docs · #19 09-22-2007, 12:39 PM

Seems someone has the ability to keep spaming the wiki. Just checked again, full of garbage.

What steps could be taken to lock it down some? or if that is possible?

Lalolyen · #20 09-22-2007, 01:02 PM

I keep saying, a simple captcha would stop it, or at least slow it down, put my captcha up there, and it will stop it hands down...

Its a very simple form that all the admins need to do is put on the registration page, and delete the spammers... Then...

Whala problem solved.

Furrygamer · #21 09-22-2007, 05:27 PM

something has to be done. I just spent ten minutes deleting all spam from useful lists and GM commands. SAVE THE WIKI!

Windcatcher · #22 09-22-2007, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Docs

Seems someone has the ability to keep spaming the wiki. Just checked again, full of garbage.

What steps could be taken to lock it down some? or if that is possible?

Reaper + JDAM? I'm only half kidding...

boogerific · #23 09-23-2007, 04:11 PM

Apparently it's not that important for people to be able to browse and use the wiki efficiently, so there needs not to be any whining about or chastizing of those people who choose to ask questions in the forums instead of wading through page after page after page after page of wikispam.

The problem is fixable. There's no excuse for letting it continue.

**fathernitwit** · #24 09-24-2007, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lalolyen

I keep saying, a simple captcha would stop it, or at least slow it down, put my captcha up there, and it will stop it hands down...

Its a very simple form that all the admins need to do is put on the registration page, and delete the spammers... Then...

first of all, talk like this does no good unless your actually providing the solution... link? it would prolly already be installed if all the information I needed were available, so now its going to have to wait until next time I get some free time... that said, almost all modern spam bots are not even phased by most captcha... but I will put it up none the less and we will see...

One thing that interests me is that obviously somebody took the time to customze their bot to specifically attack our site to circumvent my trivial-but-custom registration stuff... how can one freakin wiki be worth it????

Another option I am considering is to tie it back to a forum account... I cant easily integrate the two login databases, but I could at least check forum authentication at registration time...

Lalolyen · #25 09-24-2007, 04:25 PM

In my petition systems under the DEV forum, grab the registration form from that, there is a place in there that has a form field and an inclusion for two other files in the security_image directory...

He he the info has been on the forums for quite some time =P

Tying it to the forums is a good idea... But... Make sure you lock the forum reg down with some kind of image verification...

I've found that email verification sometimes isn't enough, just like with Captcha, however the both combined is actually a ferece machine against spammers =P.

Also I stated in another forum, no one customized a bot specifically to attack our wiki...

That spam I see is the same spam that use to pollute MediaWiki for months till they put up an captcha =).

Here is what they are doing..

1. The spam the registration (so auto-banning anyone whom trys to register more than 2x in 5 mins would suffice).

2. Spamming pages and following linkes from the wiki.. One thing I use to love is how those guys would use php to make a 10 mb html page to do nothing but read out fake emails for spam harvesters =).. They would harvest it, but when it was plugged into the spam bot, he he he he... It wasn't pretty for the spammer..

I'm proposing we use the same system... Get a couple of links going on the wiki that are to domains that do not exist (or links to the same directory that do not exist) and let the spam bots have a hay day with that =).

Can you guys get an IP capture? If so, look in your phone book for the local FBI office and print out the info, along with the destoryed pages, and ask to file changes on destruction of property (it works I've done it 3 times before on hackers). This forum, the data therein, and the wiki is legally property of the community... ANY community leader can have charges filed, free to you.

Very last resort, if you cannot get the FBI to respond let me know... I have several friends that likes bragging about thier pcs and would love to show the community what a Denial of Service attack does to the IP address you tell them was spamming the wiki =).

boogerific · #26 09-24-2007, 06:06 PM

Just an FYI post here.

I just finished deleting spam from a lot wiki pages. Eqbuilder plus a few others had nothing but spam and I'm pretty sure there was info in those previously. I don't know if it matters, but I also noticed that the spammers are taking over ownership of the wiki pages.

gernblan · #27 09-24-2007, 07:14 PM

The wiki is the ONLY form of documentation there is for much of the features of the emu.

I would think this would be an insanely large priority to fix.

At LEAST put in a captcha system or something.... please!

Docs · #28 09-24-2007, 11:22 PM

I agree, losing critical information is not a good thing.

Lalolyen · #29 09-24-2007, 11:33 PM

Ok I'm creating a captcha system just for the wiki...

I'll post it here in a few... if the admins take to it... thats their thing...

Lalolyen · #30 09-24-2007, 11:45 PM

Simple instructions...

1. Upload the files in the zip to the directory where the wiki registration page is from http://emu.norrath.info/upload_files.zip

2. Check the form submit, and in the php file that the wiki submits to.. add the following:

Code:

require_once("securimage.php");
$img = new Securimage();
$valid = $img->check($_POST['code']);

3. Wrap the if condition around the entire php code that acceps the form data:

Code:

if ($valid == "true") {
wraping code here
} else {
echo("F***ing spammer!");
}

4. Edit the html on the form to add the following fields:

Code:

<img src="securimage_show.php?sid=<? md5(uniqid(time())) ?>">
<input type="text" name="code">

There ya go =) Problem solved =P