Interesting point. However, to not squabble over symantics, I am sure everyone who comprehends the language understands what the "nitty gritty" of this topic is all about - griefers, or people who find ways to exploit the system to an end that unbalances the overall "fairness" of the server.

But I'm certain you already knew that.

/rant on

Todays sociaty sees 2 diferent set of people.

Hackers = Those trying to make life worse for others, finding issues with code and exploiting them for there own gain, and to make things worse for others.

Crackers = People who find the faults in code to fix them or make others aware, those out to improve the lives of others.

We want hackers out and crackers in, and as stated above you already knew this and just posts to gt a rise outa people.

/rant off

I agree with 99% of that , but being a young server ( Jest has only been around for the past 6-7 months ) we have had our fair share of idiots. I think maybe 1 year may be sufficient , with a verified website.

Driz.

Rather see more effort in making the game better.

Ok, wasn't going for semantic argument. I am really not sure in which category you would put something like running macroquest to help operate a group of characters vs playing one character only. I've read posts eluding both ways on the site and hear tales of some using macroquest to field entire raids. I am not currently running macroquest but am working on getting it set up. I intend to use it on my personal server but was also looking at using it on peq server because I have a couple friends who play on it and we can't always get on at the same time.

So. Macroquest used as an aid to multitasking... ok? or bad hacker go away?

Depends on the individual server owner.

Curse those cheaters! They've made a mockery of us all!!! I say we strike back!!! Pillage the farms! Rape their Characters! and vote Richardo Presedent!


Edit: Just an idea, I haven't read the whole thread but... Why don't you guys create a 3rd party blacklist?...

For example..

Create a mysql driven website that holds a large compendium of banned players. Each server admin will have access (after proving ownership or however you would allow access) and everyone would pitch in bans (ONLY for cheaters, not for own personal reasons) and every 2 - 3 weeks you can update a large SQL file that people can source into their databases for banlist.

And pardon me for being late but I haven't played with eqemu in months.. Is there a command to ban IPs yet? If not.. Write one.. Sure you can ban them from your server, but it would simplify things just to add a command :p

I don't believe there is an IP ban command in yet (though I'd like to see one too), but just a quick tip: most OS's now come with built-in firewall features; if necessary, you could use those to block IP's.

Not quite how it works.

IMO, the whole point of hacking/cheating in EQ is to derive virtual profit from your illegal trade. Creating new accounts sorta defeats that purpose, because the banned accts never really get a chance to finally 'beat the curve' if ya know what I mean.

Unlike many FPSs, a person can't just jump into EQ with an AIMbot and speedhack and make the server damn near unplayable for everyone else. What they can do is break a fragile economy/atmosphere of fairness for everyone else. Some players might know how to dupe on the emu, and duping sometimes involves crashing the server.

That would get old pretty fast :shock: 8-)