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Aspirax 02-05-2003 03:58 PM

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Any "EQEMu Unfriendly" posts
Whatever happened to freedom of speech, expression and press?
:confused:

Trumpcard 02-05-2003 04:14 PM

This is not a democracy....

lol...

DeletedUser 02-05-2003 04:42 PM

Who said you had freedoms when posting to this server? Maybe you should re-read the agreement you agreed too when signing up for your account:

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I'd say we have final word on if a post is okay or not. It is, our server afterall....

Beers218 02-05-2003 05:31 PM

how exactly do you charge people?... Just wondering

Zafar 02-06-2003 01:02 AM

One way that they can charge you, is by taking legal actions and have a lawsuite against you. The judge in court would decide if the terms qualify and then determine if the offender(s) have to be punished. Then, there is a degree that the offender(s) can be punished.

The other way, is very much different, they'd have to make available, a notice that you have to pay to access, or to have possession of, or to gain possession of the product, service or otherwise. This one, does not involve any lawsuites or court. Basically, more or less what I am saying here is, like going to a site, to purcahse a server, it would have a page saying:

Purchase EQEmu Server (32 user license) for $29.95
Purchase EQEmu Server (64 user license) for $39.95
Purchase EQEmu Server (128 user license) for $129.95

And such, so you don't get roped in to anything, and they cannot be sued thereafter for unauthorized sales, etc. But for malicious activities, such as DoS (Denial of Service) attacks, Ping attacks, and other forms of malicious activities, they can, and warrant the rights to block, remove, revoke, or modify access to the offender(s), and also, to press charges and have every right to procescute the said offender(s) to the maximum extent allowed by law. Now I know, the law in each state may vary, and some do vary from one to the next, and then there is a "typical bylaw" that is the same for every state. The only thing that I can and will suggest, for additional information is to contact a lawyer that deals in this area so you know what your rights are.

The EQEmu Server project does reserve the right to press charges on the offenders, provided it is their own servers, however. Now if it is not their servers, I believe they can still press charges for theft of content, services and such, but at another degree, the companies and/or individuals hosting the content, services, and such on their own servers, can as well, press charges, too! Then you'd have a double whamy from the hosting provider, and the people that are making the content, products, and services available. Know what I mean?


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Originally Posted by Beers218
how exactly do you charge people?... Just wondering


JBenison 02-06-2003 02:23 AM

IMHO paying for the EQEmu server defeats it's whole purpose.. :?

ichijin 02-06-2003 06:50 AM

They are not saying they will charge for it. He is saying they -could- charge for it if they wanted.

Divide 02-06-2003 09:21 AM

The terms are there for dumbasses that do stupid crap like this. EQEMu is ran off Donations. We want to keep it that way. But we dont want ppl DoSing the servers so no one can enjoy the free service that is given out here. Fun is defined as "Enjoyment that does not inflicnon enjoyment of others." Think about it, IF you did a DoS on sony they would not Double bill ya. They would take your lame ass to court and charge you For all the lost time and money. that means 20k accounts X $12.95 plue Legal Fees. Think about that before you pull a stupid stunt. If i was Hogie i would add something like that to my Terms of Service.

DeletedUser 02-06-2003 10:14 AM

heh, i'm afraid of posting now.. :(

rbysa 02-06-2003 03:19 PM

sorry my actions were obscene and therefor highly immature. No, apologies don't make things perfect but then again I feel i should take responsibility for what i did. Furthermore i had no reason to be upset and once again im sorry for acting so childish.

O6scured 02-06-2003 03:41 PM

You know not all men who buy sports cars have small penises... some of em are large and rich with money...

Piska 02-06-2003 04:28 PM

lol they have the money for plastic surgary, is that what you are saying?

Baron Sprite 02-07-2003 08:58 AM

Some men get rich from having a large penis...

danjh444 02-07-2003 02:58 PM

sadly, mine isnt that big :(


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