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Nnuk 02-21-2004 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by laotus
i like some of ninjas ideas

Did you really?

I thought he seemed well-intentioned but horribly misguided for the most part. :(


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Originally Posted by Various People
a CHAR wipe is gonna mess the servers population

Where were all these concerns about dwindling server population while half the playerbase disappeared these past couple of weeks?

A suspicious person might get the impression that the lion's share of these warnings are being given from a selfish standpoint rather than the benevolent position being portrayed. :shock:


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Originally Posted by ragnarok22
PvP is solo/group/guild fighting fairly and in generally good humor saving good fight from both sides and walking away when the deed is done.

/chuckles

Maybe if the PvP in question was a friendly duel, arena battle or a rousing game of tiddlywinks. :lol:

I've always been against training (and assholish tactics -- such as portal camping -- as a whole) on general principle but the person you quoted seemed to have a more realistic vision of what PvP in an MMORPG actually is.

Remember Thull and his hatred for Derangement during the first few weeks? That is PvP.

Recall the mix of disdain and fear when DB (WWE, hatever) rocked everyone in NK for two days straight? That is PvP.

The uproar when LV would do... Well... Pretty much anything? That is PvP.

Getting together with your opposition for a circle-jerk after a conflict? That is tic-tac-toe. :P

Nnuk

PS The following is worth repeating:

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Originally Posted by Ramos the Astute
The system now encourages suicide tactics. If a wizard kills someone, and is low on mana and/or health, he continues nuking other people in hopes to get more pvp points. If he dies, great...he gets more mana and more health.

There is no sense in NOT dying, unless it is to a pet.

That, right there, is the ultimate cause of most PvP-related issues on GW -- It's incredibly similar to a phenomenon which occured on RZ back during EQ's first year (the Naked Mage Syndrome) and has pretty much the same effect.

Losing PKPs (precisely how many would vary depending upon many factors and is a discussion in and of itself) sounds likes an incredibly good solution... Assuming that issues like portal camping are addressed (either via coding or policy change), of course.

Ramos 02-22-2004 04:27 AM

follow up
 
A 3rd option (to corpse recovery after pvp death and loss pf pvp points in a pvp death) is allowing the victorious character to loot something from you. All three would encourage sensible tactics in pvp. This however would require having lootable items.

In a world where platinum has no real value and all good gear is no-drop, this is not the best choice of the aforementioned three.

I do not see a problem with having gear bought with pvp points to be dropable (or sellable). If you want to sepnd time farming for SMR's, etc, or pvping for dropable gear, either can be sold, it's just a matter of how you spend your time.

Stabbe 02-22-2004 06:37 AM

so i guess the guildwars character wipe is happening regardless now. So what do you all think about it?

Erratic_Knight 02-22-2004 08:42 AM

um, this whole thread is whta people think about it. Perhaps you should go to irc, instead of posting the same questinos in multiple threads.

ragnarok22 02-22-2004 05:18 PM

"Remember Thull and his hatred for Derangement during the first few weeks? That is PvP."

Thats not PvP, thats jealousy.

"Recall the mix of disdain and fear when DB (WWE, hatever) rocked everyone in NK for two days straight? That is PvP."

Thats not PvP, thats a hatred of Hackers.

"The uproar when LV would do... Well... Pretty much anything? That is PvP."

Thats not PvP, thats laughing at morons.

"Getting together with your opposition for a circle-jerk after a conflict? That is tic-tac-toe."

I never said sit around and chat and shit with the people your fighting. I ment keeping a lvl of Fairness, and Honor. Respecting peoples time. Not "OMFG YOUR SUCH A NEWB AND COULDN'T RESIST MUH ROOT YOUR DEAD PWNED BISCH!" and Bind Rush/Corpse camp/Bind Camp people. Thats not PvP thats wasteing everyone involved's time.

StarLightKitten 02-22-2004 11:34 PM

Server Down Till March 15th
 
GuildWars will be returning March 15th, 9PM PST, 12AM EST(March 16th). Click here for information about the recent server intrusion.

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Nnuk 02-23-2004 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ragnarok22
Assorted stuff

I've been a borderline critic of Darkenbane since they stopped being a darkie RP guild and indulged in assorted assholish behavior (most of which had little to do with "cheating") -- 4 or 5 years.

I've been at odds with most of Lucid Vision on more than one occasion since they quit being a bluebie raid guild and became worthy of my attention -- Roughly 2 years.

The lion's share of my on-again/off-again experience with Thullane was him being an Anti-PK and despising the very ground I walked upon... And it was quite mutual -- 3 years or so.

I mention this to make two things crystal clear: I know these people better than anybody here and, more importantly, I'm not some simpering groupie kissing their collectives arses.

And it is on that basis that I say that your version of things is, at best, skewed.

/shrugs

GW boards are back up so I'll stop taking up space on these forums with my idle chit chat. :wink:

Nnuk

av10k 02-25-2004 11:00 AM

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"Recall the mix of disdain and fear when DB (WWE, hatever) rocked everyone in NK for two days straight? That is PvP."

Lol, really who feared them owning north karana, shit only toxx has less trafic then that spire. Hell i loved them camping it because i'd port in and gank 2/3 of them before gating and repeating a few min later.

"The uproar when LV would do... Well... Pretty much anything? That is PvP."

Uproar about what really, lv did uh... hate once and killed a few people, and made a big shit about it on the message board for weeks.

Btw i wouldn't call wwe darkenbane, shit i wouldnt call most of darkenbane, darkenbane now, its a fucking zerg fest and gray is just trying to bolster numbers to zerg to victory in WoW or whatever. The number of real DB in WWE is neglible, i mean shit look at people like vlad (not vladmyir/amreet, im talking about the newbie shaman), hes accepted in DB and he didn't even know what a fucking crim pot is, look at the apps thier accepting on the forums, random blue newbs.


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