Rogean, I would agree with you if you told me that 2 months ago.

However, I never go to porn sites. I went occasionally to sites with ads, but there were never any warnings or anything that came up. I obviously knew to say 'No' to the activex controls and the like..

However I STILL got spyware and adware that kept recourring, it was impossible to get rid of. (And with my lack of HD space on my laptop, System Restore was disabled).

After reformatting just before I started working on Evolution II, I switched to Firefox. And I have not gotten a single popup, popunder, spyware, adware, etc.

The ONLY time I ever use Internet Explorer is when Firefox can't display an IE only page. (Blech).


-Cisyouc (A firefox success story)

So far I've noticed some images load slower, but cached pages load instantly (which appeared to be loading fresh in IE). I just wanted to make it known that I'm not making the switch because of spyware. After SP2 I haven't received a single thing besides the rare popup. SP1 + 2 were definitely what made XP usable.. but now I love it. I wish there wouldn't be any MS haters anymore :( haha. Anyway, I don't see Firefox as any better really, just different.


My 2 cents

SP2 seemed to be working for me and I loved it...

But it continued to miss ALOT of popups and spyware as I put too much faith into it....

(And you still cant beat TABS!)

The feature I like about Firefox the most is the 'adblock' plugin ... Right-Click on those annoying avatars/signatures, click 'Adblock Image', and you never see them again ...

I *do* use windows from time to time because of Linux haters at my school, who make plugins available in Windows-format only (there ARE standards that don't require windows, guys...).

But I never wanted to upgrade from Windows 98. Windows 98 doesn't have the same safety rating. I just don't like having my OS and my explorer in the same file... it's hazardous.

Internet stuff... / My Computer stuff...

Why can't it just be secure?

What I'm saying is that IE isn't safe naturally, because it's linked so closely to Windows.

which is why you should just delete all internet explorer icons and use firefox duh. Then you don't ever get those.

yes exactly. firefox is usefull if you dont know what your doing.

Sometimes I wish you could ban people solely upon ignorance..

Also, I have found a flaw!! When clicking links on www.packetnews.com there is supposed to be a little string copied to your clipboard to make it easier to ask for something in mIRC (or whatever prog. you use) but Firefox doesn't allow this. :(

Thats because they used IE (microsoft specific) code, which is NOT standard and unsupported by anything but microshit. A poor web-design decision on the site creators part, there's other ways to do the same thing.

My vote: Firefox.

I've used Firefox for quite awhile now and i'd never go back to IE. Why?

Well, it's agreed that if you go to porn/advertising websites with IE, you will get a whole heap of spyware, etc on your computer. Go to those same websites with Firefox...I'd bet you wouldn't get any.

Then there's those sites with annoying pop-ups....with IE, sure, you could download an external program to stop SOME of that (I tried quite a few)...but wait, it's already in Firefox and it actually works.

Tabbed browsing...Well, I don't even see that in IE.

Customisation;
Firefox - Loads of extensions and themes to choose from.
IE - What? Where do I get those?



Mysticalninjajesus - I do not use Firefox to be a l33t h@xor that r0x0rz j00 w0r|d and thinks microsoft is t3h n00bz0r (I am making fun of you here, just so you know)...I use it simply because it is superior to IE in each and every way and I got sick of having annoying pop-ups and spyware (although granted it was probably someone else that got it on my computer...which wouldn't have happened if I had of made them use Firefox).

How about you try it and then give a reason for why IE/Firefox is better?

Edit: By the way, if anyone has Firefox, I like how you can customise quite a few settings by typing in about:config in the address bar. (I never knew that before now. :) ) Anyway, it seems you can change a few settings in here and Firefox will actually load pages even faster than IE (for all those complaining). http://www.computerbb.org/about150.html

Try what's mentioned here, with the exception of that last one, which has been removed in the latest versions.

go to those same websites with a brain and you wont get any either.

Mysticalninjajesus: Explain to me how you would go about to a spyware infected site without installing A SINGLE external application, as just said you can.

Even if you would have to go into the Internet Explorer options, hah, guess what Firefox does it automatically.

What? Huh? Is that a pwn I smell? It is!

He's right, it's stupid to install another browser. My computer had tons of spyware and adware because of IE then I got netscape which doesnt work with certain movie extention files.

But then I got a program that completely whiped my slate clean of adware and spyware and it works beautifully. If I ever screw it up again I can clean it up with either...

adaware6.0

or

hijackthis.exe

Don't be angry at me because I made fun of you :cry:. You know you had it coming with the comments you were making.

Anyway, I assume that means go to them with IE? How about....no.

Spike...go try Firefox, much nicer to just not have spyware...instead of going through the process of cleaning it up each time you get it. Even Adaware wont clean up some of the stuff out there.

/begin soft music
There are some things Internet Explorer can't buy. For everything rolled into 1, theres Firefox.

Popup Blocker ...comes with sp2
Spyware Preventer ...my brain, spyware comes from accepting things from sites you shouldnt and installing p2p networks and other exe's
Antivirus ...never have let an antivirus program run in the background ever
Integrated Search Bar ...no thanx, having google as my home page is plenty fast for me
Tabbed Browsing ...why not just open a new window.. all tabbed browsing is is a waste of window space to me.

my IE ui which i cant do in firefox

yea a crappy one, i turned off my second popup blocker to test this new feture and got so many popupt i had to hard boot.

Wrong again, Google got busted for automaticaly installing spyware a wile back, and many other *normal* web sites do it too.

I agree with this
Tabbed brousing takes up LESS window space.

Yeah, how can a tab use up more space? It's a TAB: one flap in the current window.

MNJ, I'm done arguing with you about this stuff. I don't think anyone can change your mind on anything. The definition of insanity is attempting to do the same thing over and over and always to expect a different result. At this point, I would be insane to expect you to use your mind when I argue with you.

look at the bar where the back and forth buttens are and the adress bar, you have a whole nother empty bar there in firefox dedicated to tabs, why not just open a new window and the tabs are now in your start menu

example, Mirc, MSN messanger, yahoo messanger, Solitare. Open 2-3 IE's and all you see is a shortend internet exployer, cant see what page thay are. And i have 4-5 web pages ope at a time a lot.

no one keeps group similar taskbar buttons on lol

Ok here we go withofficial news reports just for you.


then this from the Firefox web site.

i sware along time ago on the firefox faq it used to say IE was faster because its built into windows.

it may have but there have been code improvment.

i keep it on. always have and always will. its a godsend.

Yeah, group similar definitely helps with running many zones. If you need to close it, just right click, close group. :D

Windows needs a middle-click. In linux, switch within a group with middle-click. it's so much faster than alt-tabbing your way through all windows. Tabs just control your groups that much faster, by integrating them into mozilla/netscape. It really does save you a ton of time when viewing pictures in a gallery (open in new tab over and over), and get back to the original windows in a snap.

On slow connections, it's nice to open 3 tabs in the background as you read the page you're currently on. They open up without popping up a new window that takes your focus from your current page.

It disapears when you have only one site open, perhaps you are thinking of the quick launch bar? IE has the same thing, but you can slide it around, which is utterly useless, because then it always is a menu which is what favorites is for..

this is easy why is Firefox better then IE... well just look for your self
http://img117.exs.cx/img117/5659/again26pk.jpg
http://img117.exs.cx/img117/4416/again123va.jpg
So after looking at that do you still think IE is better...

What are we looking for?

i think were suspoused to be looking at firefox taking up 4x mem usage. wow, that was some major self-pwnage. he thought we would think the browser that takes up more memory would be more advanced lol. memener you want your browser to take less mem usage not more lol. by the way, you have something called bargains.exe running.

Actually, it can't be 4X usage because explorer.exe is part of iexplore.exe, and combined, they're only 1/7 smaller than Mozilla.

look again at my above post.

look again


Yea i know it runs when i use IE it called spyware.

EDIT:
My computer runs funny if it has been running for 2 weeks I rebooted it and it changed.
I think i'll say pwned.

Oh do a google on Bargains.exe and you'll see what it is.

lmfao of course its spyware. DURRR. thats why i told you that you have it running in the background. and it doesnt run when you open IE, it runs because of something you accepted on IE cause your a tard and now probly boots up with windows. i dont even have firefox installed and only use IE and dont have any exe's i dont know what do running, because instead of installing an xtra browser, i use the ultimate computer protection tool, my brain.

http://img117.exs.cx/img117/3201/ie8nwd5ws.jpg
yeah, putting your buttens and adress bar on the same thing is leet. i do it with my windows folders too. to bad firefox cant lol. (the only disadvantage i see about it)

Guys this isnt a real argument.

Its mostly opinions. ninjawhatevers whole argument is basicly opinions.

The only thing you can argue is

A) One runs faster
B) Which has better spyware protection

How do you argue "omg les spase is pwn irl lol"? Maybe some people like more space in certain areas.

What verson of IE is that? 5.5 or 5.0? anything below 6.0 sucks ass.
also when i am stuffing the web i like the see the full addres.

http://img103.exs.cx/img103/6923/wtfpwn4dv.jpg

i can see the full adress bar, i took that screenshot at low res and with ie in window mode. peniz

You know whats funny about that??? You have to set all the up and remove item Firefox come that way. and even have a google bar. what you got looks kinda gay . its all crowded...


and we really need to see the shows you illegaly downloaded .

Here we go...some links. This should better explain why Firefox is better than IE.

13 Reasons to use Firefox Over IE
http://www.flexbeta.net/main/article...show&id=32

Better browser now the best
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6131279/


http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/...d.php?t=169641
Possibly because of that hidden autodownloadspyware4u.exe file in the IE directory. :D

http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-623...sageID=1677035

By the way, I also did a search on google for why IE is better than Firefox...All I got were websites with the title "Why Firefox is better than IE" with that search. I guess just about everyone disagrees with you mysticalnoobjesus. :cry:

This thread is obsolete, mystical was banned anywho :)