its called stealing and you my friend should loose your server op status for insulting the entire community firstly, secondly you steal money out of a register at work or by any other means its still THEFT and in THIS case fraud.

As i said if they want to get paid they should quit (and so should you for your shitty ass attitude and insulting the entire community) and move on to a project in which they get paid instead of stealing money in ANY ammount i dont care if its 10k or 10 CENTS its STEALING.

Its assholes like YOU that are killing this community if WE Are such a horrible community of whiners do is ALL a favor and LEAVE!

I personally think you owe EVERY memeber of this community an appology for that insult you just slung.

Furthermore let it be stated once more that money is NOT for the dev team to go buy themselves anything it is for the EMU AND by making money off of the project they are violating copyright law by making money off of the intelectual property of Sony online entertainment...

In closing like i said if being part of this "community of whiners" then leave simple as that we dont need people who think so low of the community that amazingly keeps this project going, i got news for you if the community left you devs would have a dead project to run so show some damn respect for the community and its members

oh and last i checked youve only been a server op a few days for one so you were very shortly ago a member of this community of whiners

amazing how quickly power goes to ones head

what is it they say about power and corruption?

I have a thought how about there are no titles one admin and noone else cause frankly im sick of these insulting rude people who think that because they have a title they can be assholes just for shits and giggles

I got news for you there are still rules and if you have a title you damn well should follow them as a dev and moderator of these forums

Troll much? LOL!

If you read the donator page which I linked above and even quoted, I already pointed out exactly how wrong you are. All donations are for individual devs to use as they like. The point of it is to allow the community a way to say thanks. It clearly states that devs can use the donations however they like. See my post above.

I admit that Dax's post was a bit abrasive, and as far as I know, he still isn't an official member of the dev team. He was given that title on the forums due to the amazing code submissions he has made to make everyone's emulator experience better. I certainly think this community would be much worse off without him, so please try to show some respect. Until you have improved the emulator more than any particular dev, I don't think you have the right to call them out on what they have done for the community.

The problem is that the people with dev titles have worked hard for them and for someone to come out of no where and try to ruin their reputation, that is just plain disrespectful, immature and bad for the community as a whole. Please try to keep your mouth shut unless you have direct proof that someone is doing something wrong. Pissing off the dev team is a quick way to ruin this great project for everyone. I certainly hope they all know to just ignore posts like this that appear to be a troll looking only to cause trouble. This is exactly when Mattmeck would normally step in and lock down the situation.

Sure, Dax was a bit rough in his post, but I am even having a hard time keeping myself composed when I read through this thread. And it takes quite a bit to get me set off. He basically said everything I have been saying, but in a less political way.

The community is made up of many smart people and I hope they are able to give this whole thing a few days and see what happens. We have lost some very valuable people in the past couple of days and I will not stand to lose more because of such stupidity. I will defend them all with every bit of my reputation (as if I have much of one) until I hear reasons not to.

Please try to show some respect. These guys already don't get the gratitude that they deserve, and they certainly don't need trolls trying to make matters worse.

I realize that you might thing you are doing the right thing posting what you are posting, but for the good of the community, please stop.

The sad part is that just a couple of weeks ago I made a post saying that this community had been drama free for quite a while, then almost immediately after, the drama started again. Here's to more peaceful times.

I wasnt going to come back and respond but I was asked to set a few things back on the correct path.

First off, money had nothing to do with my decision to quit. I made that decision based on issues that have been happening for years.

I have an issue on the forums it takes months to get any resolution because I was not trusted to have full admin power (nope had the admin name but half the admin CP couldnt be accessed). I wanted a mod on the forums, took over 2 months to get it added (the rules click mod) We had issues with spam bots, took 6 weeks to get a simple mod made to confuse the bots.

Add the fact people like cole89103 like to spout off about stuff they have no clue about (TheLieka was talking as a server OP ...server owner, didnt try to speak as a developer, so get your facts right) and I play baby sitter to a bunch of assholes, getting spammed in PM's, posts, IRC, e-mail, msn, you name it.

Then add the kicker of angelox telling me to delete the usergroups then pulling the crap he did to blame it on me and I just had enough.

I have been saying for years there needs to be more developer activity on the forums, I have been saying for years someone who was around needed access to upgrade the forums and make needed changes to the web site (I never cared if it was me, just someone needs it).

Nothing has changed, and things are getting worse, people dont bother to get the facts before spouting off and causing issues, and I got tired of playing babysitter to a bunch of elitist, demanding assholes, and not being able to see simple things get fixed.


I NEVER stated it was everyone, there is some great people in this community, 3 phone calls and about a dozen e-mails asking if i was ok (thanks to all of you, I am just getting rid of some stress).


So stop all the drama, this thread is a prime example of what had me decide to leave, this is pure crap, people trying to cause issues talking about stuff when they have no idea what there talking about.


FYI anyone can see the donations, just look at the source forge page, follow the donation link on the front page of the forums, and yes the Devs pocket it, but does that matter? it says right on the page there going to keep it for themselves, I wont lie, it would have been nice to have $ sent for me to get drunk one night after running the forums for years, but hey I am not a coder so I didnt count!

I'd like to state for the record that as one of the developers on this project for the last 18 months or so, I have never taken a penny from the community nor have I been offered any money from the community for my work. If any of the developers have received any donations, I am not one of them and I have no knowledge of such activity.

Dunno whats going on with the one person trying to stir some shiat up here but I hope the people that matter take no notice of it, As I said if we cant help the people that are ignorant or pissed off and want to stir everyone up then we need to learn to ignore them (personally I favor the ban the assholes approach) and just keep going here.

As for what they do with money? well I am sure people that have donated don't really give a shit as long as they can continue using their emulator the LoginServer and the forums for help (btw cole89103 have you ever donated?) I say to the Devs that as long as the login server and forums are there to use then Rock On!

I dunno, I just wish people would either post some kind of fixes for the site, the emulator, the wiki, the greenhouse effect, the NEAs (near earth asteroids), Hard to remove bra clips, frizzy hair......ANYTHING and stop causing shit here or get off.

I have been a developer for 4 years and around the project even longer, and can say the same.

I think it is time to drop this and move forward.

We have an emulator to work on and make even better than it is.

Ive been here for two years and i DIDNT start the shit read the fucking post genius i RESPONDED that IF IF IT WAS TRUE IT was wrong to do! so get YOUR facts straight

the leikas fixes are so great they never even made it into the code imagine that ever think maybe thats because he likes to post untested code that upon testing doesnt work? just a shot in the dark there..

and yes i said there should be more dev activity and that your and angelox' leaving might be a blessing in disguise because the devs might actually step back up to the plate instead of hide in silence like they have for a long time now for the most part.

But i did NOT stir shit up i didnt start shit i didnt even make the accusatory post i COMMENTED on it then dax comes through with his holier then thou attidude and starts insulting the entire community? fuck that hes not even that great of a programmer, every first year programming student knows you never release untested programming. but because he has an UNOFFICIAL Title that makes him better then the rest of us? fuck that

btw this shit right here is why i stayed silent for two years and why im probably going to do it again and put my effort forth elsewhere

I think this has gone far enough.

If you want to complain and accuse take it elsewhere.

If you want to continue working on the emulator, help the community, and have fun doing it, then pick it up and get started.

Whenever one door closes another opens. It's time to stop complaining about the closed one and walk through the open one.

This thread is closed. So is this topic. Don't restart it elsewhere.