Zerj -

The player community is essentially a marketplace, and servers are products. Trying to force a product on the market simply does not work - you design a product and if there is appetite in the market for your product, then it will be successful. Your post reminds me of conversations amongst players who dislike boxing, where they suggest that preventing boxing will result in everyone grouping - it's simply not true. While some players will group when they can't box, a significant number will simply look for a product where they can box. Likewise for your server - the people you've seen logging in and complaining about the difficulty are not your target market and there's no point trying to 'convert' them.

Fortunately for you there IS a market for this type of server. These types of players are playing project 1999 and the 1999 population is by far the largest population of any emu server (at a glance it outnumbers the others combined). If I were in your shoes I would stop worrying about the miscellaneous players who quit because your server is hard, and instead - take enormous comfort in the fact that the 'hardcore' format has attracted the biggest player base of any Emu server. I think you need to stick with your vision and ensure your content is top notch. If your 'product' stacks up with P1999 then get the word out amongst the right people (market) and let them choose with their feet. If you still have no interest then you have more work to do on your server :)

Thank you, js, you have a great point there. I agree with you wholeheartedly!

Can I just say that I play a Shaman and I can solo in whatever zone I want by playing my class intelligently and not having the expectation that I can run through an entire dungeon by myself. I am currently level 37 and soloing in a level 30s zone. Soloing is possible here, you just can't expect to be able to crawl through a dungeon and kill all the nameds, but you couldn't do that by yourself in real EverQuest either.

People are really, really misunderstanding this server and a lot of the stuff you guys are saying are extremely generalizations and exaggerations.

I find it very interesting that I do not box, and my class is Shaman as opposed to a solo class like Mage or Necro, and I am the highest level player on the server. Play smartly, have realistic expectations, and play the game as it was intended to be played, and reap the rewards..

Basically the naysayers are Doing It Wrong.

This is me soloing in a group zone

http://thumbnails101.imagebam.com/26...4268483810.jpg

Even so, we almost always have a group and invite people as they get close enough to get exp! Naysayers are the Instant Gratification Crowd (IGC)

We also actively help out new players, so I'm not really sure what the issue is here. Buncha spoiled babies who wanna feel like gods in a game that they don't even know how to play properly.

And average 12+ hours a day on the server.. only lvl 37? /played = what? . No hate Baggo, just the truth. Also, what shaman spells have been removed? What % of spells are available to shaman vs other classes? Ohh. I see. While zerjz says he doesn't want a solo content server you boast of soloing, and even show how you do it so effortlessly... i wonder how long until the nerf bat smacks the Shamans of Sanctuary? Maybe everyone should just play a Shaman there and that would solve all the arguements. Good luck with it Zerjz .

phorest dude literally the only mage spells missing are the summon focus items spells and those weren't added into EQ until way late. I have looked at the spell merchants and compared the available mage spells to the list of mage spells on allakhazam and those are the only spells missing.

And I don't think Zerjz has ever said that he doesn't want anyone to be able to solo ever, at all, he means that he doesn't want people to be able to solo anything and everything. You're really not getting it at all.

and by the way, as I'm soloing, root breaks and I get hit a few times and lose half of my total HP, it's not effortless at all, I'm just good at playing my class and play carefully without an ego and an expectation that I am a god capable of slaying whatever I want. It's not easy or effortless, it's fun and challenging and requires skill.

Case in point : http://thumbnails102.imagebam.com/26...2268488711.jpg

"phorest dude literally the only mage spells missing are the summon focus items spells and those weren't added into EQ until way late." And what about half of the mage pet spells? The fact no earth pets available after 20? Again no hate bro. It's factual. But the server is beta. Maybe these things will change. Maybe Zerjz just like and encourages Shamans and enchanters to play on the server more because they have everything availsble to them. Best of luck to all of you. You will certainly need it.

Elemental pets do not exist after level 20 on this server because they are replaced by custom Monster Summoning pets, which you had, and which are more powerful than the elementals, because the Mage class becomes a Monster Summoner class.

Phorest you gave your feedback and there are a heap of custom servers on emu. Rather than trying to change one of them to your liking, it would be easier for you as we'll as the server op if you played on one that you do like :)

The really funny thing here is that even though he publically bashes this server, he made an alternate account and character after being blacklisted by basically everyone on the server for being a negative selfish douche, and tried playing on the server still, putting on this great elaborate act of being a 'new player' -- For someone who is so displeased with the server, he sure can't stop playing it...

I logged in and asked if you wanted my droppables and logged out. I have not name called . And as far as publicly "bashing" the server, please forgive me for discussing a server in the " server disscussion forum".
I'll let people come to their own conclusions based on behavior exhibited here. Best of luck to you.

I don't think it's funny, just odd and disrespectful. People put a lot of time into developing a server according to their vision of a server. It is completely unrealistic and disrespectful for a player to expect someone, unpaid, to change their server to match the player's vision instead. By all means provide feedback, but consider the dev's perspective as well. If their vision doesn't match yours, you're on the wrong server.

Someone goes into a donut shop, picks a donut without chocolate and then complains that it doesn't have chocolate. After the shopkeeper says 'Those donuts are for people who don't like chocolate' to then go back into the shop and buy the same donut, ignoring the chocolate donut, and complain again.. well it's just odd. Let's not forget these donuts are free!

jsr, you are very wise and well-spoken and I appreciate very much the things you've had to say here in this thread. It is unfortunate that my server has made a very small group of people so unhappy, but the number of players who are enjoying it very much and appreciate the world that's been created make it worth it to me. Thank you for being the voice of reason here and providing unbiased, intelligent responses. EQEmu could use more people like yourself.

The server is back online now after a brief period of downtime earlier this morning.

Oh thanks, my better half will have to read this! Goodluck with the server.

Heyy this is Sieben. I can't log into the server right now. I can log into other servers successfully.

It tells me Error 1017: Cannot login to the Everquest server.

I would also like a comment on beastlords. Their damage tables are terrible on PEQ and the like. They wind up getting most of their damage from procs, and not actual weapon stats.

Some comments from live around luclin/POP era say they parse alongside monks in DPS. Is this the case/intention here?

Beastlords never have been close to an equal aa'd/level/geared monk in a parse. Not sure where you got your data but that is a false statement. And rangers were never amazing bow dps at any point, which people still find hard to believe.

http://beastlords.org/index.php?topic=7487.0

Is a long thread, but has some good numbers. People claim they were able to keep up with their guild's main dps on raid fights.

http://beastlords.org/index.php?topic=1530.0

Most people tend to exclude bst from top 5, ranking monk above bst, but bst is pretty respectable. Definitely should be above warrior and I know this was not the case on PEQ. Warrior DPS was about 2/3rds pure melee dps. Bst dps was like, half pure melee dps.

I agree that they should actually be a good step behind monks. I just want to make sure they aren't completely gimp before I make one :)

This is one of the main reasons I made Varlyndria: Ascension. Sony/Verant have half ass class designers.

I think the whole concept of most MMOs is stupid. There's a huge grind barrier to level or gear up that doesn't really pose much of a challenge. Then you get to endgame and all you can do is sit around waiting for raids because - hurdur, dragon has gotta drop da best loot, rite? - but actually raiding is the easiest part of the game for most classes. You just fulfill your specialized role as part of a heal or DPS chain and go afk.

I'm hoping this server will be different. I really feel like EQ was designed around and shines best in content for 1-4 toons. They gave us some cool tools to use in our kits that don't get used in traditional tank and spank raids. Particularly fighting a mob within the context of a dungeon crawl is a lot different than fighting in the kind of sanitized no-risk raid zones we see PoP+.

(Speaking of which, the only reason raids take so long is because they put a bunch of pointless trash for you to clear before the boss. More trivial timesinks... ugh)

Anyway, back to error 1017, I see that a lot of other people are playing on the server. So that makes me think it might be on my end. Except I can literally connect to every other server on the list and walk around and play just fine. The only issue I'm having is with SITS.

"I do not think that word means what you think it means."

Yeah, that!

sanctuary in the sky is an awesome server idea, I played on it till it went down last year - it has promise.

it is very well balanced up to the point that it had content.. just some exploits related to traveling around but i am sure those can be fixed easily :)

Hey all, the server is currently undergoing maintenance right now and will be down for about another 45 minutes to an hour. On the plus side, later tonight the server will be hosted on stable, fast and reliable hosting!

You may see a server in the list right now called [BETA 2] Sanctuary in the Sky - This is an outdated version of the server from last year so don't be freaked out if you try logging into that and your character is missing. The real server will be back up and in its normal spot near the top of the list shortly.

Awesome News Zerjz!!! Can't wait!

The server is now back up. Disregard the one that says [BETA 2] as it is non-working. The proper server is in the same spot it's always been.

There's something weird going on with the eqemu login server, so the Sanctuary server is down again for the time being.

The server is back up and on its permanent new hosting :)

I have done some patchwork editing of some things to fix some of the problems we have been experiencing this evening. It's not ideal, as we have lost static zones for the meantime, but there shouldn't be any more getting stuck in crashed zones anymore.

Let me know if you have any more problems this evening. Working with the server host to get everything fixed permanently.

Fun times in Daggerdepth Lake

http://thumbnails106.imagebam.com/26...e269382585.jpg

Had a great time raiding with everyone last night!

http://thumbnails105.imagebam.com/26...0269807974.jpg

Game Updates

+ Please download the GlobalLoad file from the forums to properly view all NPC models

+ Please download the spells_us file from the forums to properly view all spells

+ Chat channels and in-game mail have been enabled

+ Global /ooc has been disabled

+ All spells are now no-drop

+ Boxing multiple characters is now limited to 2 accounts per IP

+ New quests have been added

+ New tradeskill recipes have been added



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