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I remember long ago, when EQEmu was made for those who wanted to feel what it was like to be the best. There was little or no thought about wanting it to be just like the live servers, cause why would you do that when you can just go on the live servers? I support non legit over legit, but I'm not gonna say legit sucks or anything. Non Legit is fun because you can just travel places, see the zones you never thought of seeing, see Gods without being killed in seconds and expirement a little with armor. I remember when I would always think of the perfect set of armor for my toon...which led me to go to EQPrices.Com, copy down the names of stuff I could acquire, and then summon it in EQEmu to test it out. I am sad to see that most of the non legit servers are gone and taken over by these legit newcomers, it almost makes me want to stop coming. The "LEGIT SERVERS SUCK Server" was my favorite, I could do anything, I saw Plane of Time and had lots of fun with the people. Then we had a legit person come in and burn us for being "cheaters", as he called it. I say that we should have a non legit server, and a legit one, as main servers I mean. GuildWars and a non legit server...plus everyone else's custom... but that's just my opinion...

I agree. There should be two servers. I for one, enjoy the non-legit servers, just because it allows me to look at some of the zones I've never been to before. Some of the graphics still blow me away and this gives me the chance to look at them without fear of being annihilated. The Legit servers are great as well, as, I love a challenge. If there were two servers, I'd have a character on both, and I'd play each one about as equally.

I love what EQEMu has done. I'm going to take a gander at GuildWars, as I haven't been able to.

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I'm sorry to see Guild Wars go down. I just got level 50, Tboots, my epic, and some stuff off Vox and cazik. I wasn't an exploiter, I was bugged once, it went away the next day. I may have done some things I shouldn't have (accidental zone crash brings back Voxx for double raid in 5 minutes.. yay!) but I didn't exploit like most people are talking about.

It makes me sad that people would ruin this for others by trying deliberatly to exploit. I admit I had my evil side. Often times I wished the zone would crash to respawn a mob, or that a person would die and I'd be leaft to finish his job, but I didn't go about galavanting to make it happen. I'm sure Image has his reasons for this, I just think it's a bit extreem. I wish him well, and a speedy server recovery, but my suggestion would have been to start reviewing logs.

If you log someone taking quads of 60's (like from a fear mob) and he has no healer, and he is chain soloing them without anything but regen, you KNOW something's up. I realise, however, that the logs are VAST and would take HOURS to sort through when looking for general exploits. So I would propose that they announce that anyone caught cheating will be visited by a GM. They will get a chance to prove their case, and if they can't come up with a good reason why they didn't try and ask to get their bugged char fixed, temp ban for a few days. If they do it again, perma ban their account. Not too hard, is it? =)

Maby even give an option for people to 'snitch'. like a /report "i see <nameofperson> killing reds w/o a healer and taking no damage.

Then the guide checks the logs and if its true, baddabam, their caught.


I don't know though, I'm just really sad that GW is down with no ETA for it going back up. I was hoping it'd be sometime tonight or tomorrow but I dbout it will. Hell, maby not even this/next week! Ugh.. 4 day weekend coming up too...

Image, please hurry man. I know you're peeved about the exploiters but.. agh! Us legit players back in! :P

<sigh> <cry> <sob> <sniffl> :(


Ah well, Image, we know you're doing whats best for your server. Thanks for putting up such a kickass server man, you're the best!

:worship:

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changed one of my stupid comments to a less stupid comment.

yeah cheating is bad and all, yadda yadda. I myself didnt cheat, but i still think you should leave the server up while you look for a solution rather than close it down meanwhile.
I mean a lot of people invested a good deal of time in your server, THEY TRUSTED YOU WITH THEIR TIME AND EFFORT, so you shouldn't just snatch it away from them like that. Just ban people who overuse exploits.
Anyways this is an ACCELERATED server, you level fast anyways, so someone cheats to lvl a bit faster. Not the end of the world, ban them and let the others lvl the normal 15 times as fast rather than 20 times like the cheaters.

I guess the biggest issue we will all have with this is that many of us (including myself) spent a large portion of time invested into our characters. We made friends, gained items, formed guilds, and created a community. Now, without warning, on Image's whim, it's all gone. That doesn't mean that it won't be back eventually, it's just now we've lost something and were unprepared for the loss..

I respect Image's decision. It is his call what he wants to do with his server, it's HIS after all. Only next time, I, aswell as many others I'm sure, would appreciate fair warning before taking it down like this.

Hope to hear you on the boards a lot Image. It would be a good idea to post quite frequently (at least once every two days) keeping the public updated on your current progress. We should all like to know when GW will be back up. I think that, as much as anything, GW became a part of our EQ life much the same way a house is a part of my real one: It became a necessity to enjoy EQ gaming.

That's not to say that my life revolves around the game, but I did spend a lot of time with it. The community GW had was exceptional (once you got to know them 8) )

Ah well, guess I'll have to find something interesting to occupy my time. I hear theres this big dome thing, people call it a "outside". I don't know what they mean, but apparently it's realllly big and has this blue thing called 'sky', with a big ball of fire in it. And sometimes it has littler balls of fire with a giant chunk of glowing rock floating in it. I wonder if thats their Luclin? Hmm maby I will go exploring that realm... It seems to me that their could be some ub0r l00tz0rz to be had out there. But APPARENTLY you have to do it yourself, which means no computer monitor. I have yet to figure that concept out, but when I do I'll be sure to post a walkthrough here on the forums to help my brethren out! Who knows, maby we can get togethor and group! Hmmm, I wonder now if theres an emulated version of this "Outside". What version is it in? I don't wanna start paying to use it...

Shut up Crythen!

<me> ok

Good. Now that that's settled...

Heh, everyone here knows by now that GW is back up, under the leadership of MadCoyote. It seems that yes, Image did actually quit. Even though his post said , showing that he planned to not quit, only take it down and work on it.

I must admit though, that when I got on I was appauled to see the HP regen bug rampent, and, yes, people were exploiting it without actually petitioning it. Many petitioned it I'm sure, but I know that some people went out of their way to try and get it back and then deliberatly exploited it (as in killing stuff they normally couldn't). I'd have THOUGHT they would have learned their lesson but... whatever. Sure, exploit all you want. It's not like THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT CAUSED IMAGE TO QUIT... assholes.

Another server to pop up using the GW database is Killspree's server. If you wish to make the transfer, however, you need to specifically request your characters be coded in. He didn't save the players database.

Alright, well, c'ya all in game!

8)

If EQEmu can team up with Sony then it would make EQEmu a whole new world of adventures.

Good points Raguel, very convincing for a stance supporting cheating. While I do agree with a lot of it, especially that part saying the instability of these servers makes it so it isn't really worth your time to play legit, I'd still have to disagree on the rest.

Although the server is indeed pretty unstable, and you are risking your time being thrown away by playing on it, some things have been done to counter this. For one thing, the GW server's EXP is accelerated, and it takes only a week at most to get lvl 50 from what I hear. The loot is also a bit picked up from what I've seen, and I think monsters are more likely to drop goodies.

As for another part of your post, concerning the reasons we came here, for all I know it may be true for the most part, but i think many others (like myself) came because we don't have EqLive anymore and want to get back to EQ after years of play. Thats why a server as similar to live as possible is preferred.

Well good post anyways, even though i disagree with a lot of it.
And don't don't bother trying to maturely discuss things with these kids that are flaming you, they don't understand anything past saying 'what are you smoking' or 'your head is up your ass' so its really pointless to introduce reasoning to them.

Guys...if you really want the MOST legitimate server...the BEST support and events...NO bugs...and no zone downage...

I suggest one thing.

EQLive

13 bucks a month is nothing, hell you probably spend more than that than the lotion you use every night for pleasure.

Maybe you wouldn't be torturing eachother with server issues.

First, I would like to appologize for what I did and didn't do.

What I did do was exploit a bug that I had found when I had gone to make arrows with my ranger on GW .. I was able to make countless arrows with buying only a stack of each item that I needed.. I went on, figuring it out further .. and started making silvertiped arrows.. and made some pp from it...

What I didn't do was report it.. which is what I should have done as soon as I spotted it.. what really kept me from doing that is something about when I buy things from merchants, I seem to lose much more money then I should when buying from them... which kinda got to me at the time.

Again, I wish to appologize for that..

Sorry,
Dhamon

i'm glad the GW server is back up. i Usually play it when i get bored on live. and the haxed servers are no fun because you don't have to work for anything... but oh well. i lost my level 29, Walwein, but that's okay because he had crap.

Well let's see here...
 

Hullo there everyone, this is my -very- first post, so please be gentle with me if you find you must flame me or you have to defend yourself or if you are required to dismiss my post as a flame. Weeeeeeell, here goes:

I just recently found EQEmu, and you will probably call me a newbie for it, but whatever...I have been an EQ lover for a year now, and I despise the fee I have to pay for a fun online game which I go to roleplay at. It's ticked me off, of course, that Ver...er...Sony Online Entertainment has done such things, but they have a huge staff of people to pay who are constantly working on updates, expansions, and patches. Now then...onto this topic...

I just wasted about 30 minutes of my time listening to rants and flames and other such things, so here's what I think...I love Legit servers, BUT I enjoy the ability to summon armor, change levels, and all around help people enjoy the game as much as I do. I would gladly walk into Naggy's lair, inspect all the things going on, make a bug report, spawn Naggy and up his loot maybe just a little bit...then have a bunch of people come and whomp him while I smile and watch them, then maybe enjoy a bit of roleplaying afterwards.

I enjoyed EverQuest because I could be with my real life friends, while meeting other people online and making new friends. I think that many people complain way too much without realizing how privledged they are already. No one has the right to flame on this board right now...Everyone here is darn lucky that Sony hasn't sued EQEmu for copyrights or stealing customers. We have the ability to choose servers, even if they are unstable, make our own characters, summon items and uber lewt [if non-legit], or you get to have your own character in which to run around in a VAST area with friends or by yourself...How many of us can visit a tree city in which the guards smile and gladly dispose of any creature chasing you? None [I hope :D ].

You must all remember, this is a game, made for enjoyment and the feeling of success in one thing. I will be making my own server soon, named the Soaring Wind server, it will be legit, but I will happily appoint GMs and help anyone who needs it. Now then, I must get back to my computer class...good luck everyone, I hope my server will be fun for you all to play on :wink:

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...I must be a newb...I was posting about the flamers on page two...heh heh :oops: :oops: :oops:

This topic is tired. Legit/illegit really doesn't matter. To be honest, there is no discussion. If you like one, host it. If you like the other, host it.