Guys to be honest thats the only thing that scares me My wife is only 20 I dont want her pulled from here or away from me sure if thay draft me I will go with out a prob but if thay draft her its wrong in my eyes I just dont want to have the goverment say your wife is goin wether u like it or not I personly think thats bullshit

As his name states Beretta, he is a pistol.

But it is true, the only part of the draft i am against i putting women into the draft, as i stated before i don't believe we are supireor to them, but its still isn't right. (If any women out there want to slap me for saying this please do so.)

as for pyrix

[quote]Uii George Bush woooh.
Do you admire Georgy ?
Your whole nation contains liers.
The CIA with their "photos" and their "true" stories ....
Attacking Iraque coz of Oil and so on.
I

your all lucky im not the president of the US :twisted:

but thats where the real problem lies in this country

to run for any type of office here its all about $$$DOLLARS$$$$ if you dont have them and LOTS of um you dont have a chance in hell
of getting any where in a election but as Ross Pero proved its only 80% money the other 20% is kissing the asses of all the rest of the rich bastards
not to mention the electorial collage is currupt and majority vote means squat

i bet everyone in the US knows some blue collar worker with one brilliant mind that would do a outstanding job in politics but those ppl will never ever get there ....... its not who or what you know its how fat is that bank account ..... money will buy everything! if the beatles were a rock band of today ther song would be money CAN buy me love


want to know who will win the next election of any office , just look to see whos silver spoon shined the most

Careful what you say. Beer is very much an American historical symbol :lol:

I'm all for the draft. I'm a patriot, but I wouldn't volunteer to die. It doesn't mean that I wouldn't roll the death dice for my country if requested.

I've seen much of the world, and I love my home nation. Ireland is no longer my ethnic country (although it is the biggest part of my racial heritage), and I don't know that it would be any better there.

With that said, I don't understand why the draft is being instituted now. Cheers to being stronger than 10 or 11 other nations combined, but why enforce the draft? Doesn't our federal government have enough power already?

Perhaps this is being done to ensure that the ranks don't drop and that we don't become France, but with all the enemies of the world seeking to punish the punisher.

Something that everyone needs to keep in mind: Land troops, appropriately delivered, win wars. Navy and Air Force and missiles only maim. Ground troops conquer. So even if China spends less than a quarter of what we spend, they could probably still kick our puny asses, especially with the help of another of the top 10.

American beer sucks :(

*nod@Mongrel*

Prost!

Ok, back to the topic of the draft... (and I don't mean beer this time :))

The Luclin server board has a pretty good thread that pretty much dispels all the panicking going on about this.

Basically, I agree with most of the people on that thread, it's somebody (prolly the Dems) trying to cause a big scare in an election year.

Ranger: that makes a lot of sense. i agree. i mean what better way to get someone to vote a certain way than to scare them into it :wink:

bah, forgot to link to the thread :P
http://www.eqluclin.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5060

nice info on that post on the luclin forum

The problem with this draft thing that pisses me off is the hypocritical politics that will go down behind this. People with money and power will always be able use there influience to protect there love ones from this process while we regular people have to say our goodbyes to our love ones. Where is the equality in that. Example, Bush has 2 daughters of age that would be eligible for this draft. Do you really think that Bush would allow even one of his daughters to be drafted much less be in the trenches in Iraq with our regular sons and daughters. F*** no! That would go for most of the political big wigs to.

Now, I am proud of you guys that said that you would go to fight or would be drafted to do so, hands down. Im not saying im for the draft or against it. Just that it is unfair or will be. Before i get flamed or something, i will say that i would not be eligible for this draft if it went into place due to my age. But my younger brother and sister would. I served in the first war with the US Army out of Ft. Hood straight out of highschool under another Bush. I did my share of damage for my country the first few weeks of the war. I wouldnt wish anything like that experience for my sister that i went though. I think my bro could handle it, but it wouldnt be anything like he would expect. Plus this war is much much more worse than the fighting i went through. I am totaly against the Bush family politics for my own reasons, but i would do the duty if my country required it in a heart beat. The Bush family is in the oil business. Trust me, they have or had strong ties to Opec, oil rich Arab nations, and Bin Laiden. I bet good money that family is roll it in with the high prices on gas right now. Reason i suspect this is because after the heavy fighting was over in the first Iraq war, My Company was assigned to guard large oil facilities in Saudi for a few months owned by no other than the current Pres. Bush's dad and at the time my Commander and Cheif. Your tax dollars at work. I really hope that Disney releases that film Fahrenheit 911 by that guy that made Bowling for Columbine.. Michael Moore. Lots for dirt devestating to Bush i hear.

Would you send family of the most powerful American overseas without hardcore protection? If they got drafted, they'd stay state-side in communication or intel or something.

You can't have a family man's family hostage to another country when he's required to think for all of us. He'll get conflicted. Any man would. Let daughter get raped and tortured, or forfeit troops and information? Hmmmmmm.

Oh really? The US didn't instigate what's going on in Iraq? Was it UN sanctioned? Nope. So please, since you seem to deem yourself so intelligent on world politics, what gives the US the right to just wander into a country and take over based on FALSE intelligence? Where are the weapons of mass destruction? Haven't been found yet have they? Nor will they ever find them, it was complete bullshit. NO single country in the world has to answer to another, let alone the US. That's why we have the UN. Even the UN weapons inspectors are calling bullshit on it. You know...the folks that were actually IN the country doing the actual work.

As for 911 having anything to do with Iraq? Other than a remote posibility that there might have been some of Al-Qaida trained there (i.e. no definitive proof there either, pure speculation) there was no reason to invade Iraq based on the trajedy of 9/11. Nice try at bluring the lines though.

Keep eating up the propaganda machines meals of misinformation like a good little sheep.

We didn't go to war with Iraq because they had weapons of mass destruction. We went because they refused to prove that they had destroyed them as was the terms of the end of the last war set down by the United Nations. Unfortunately, the UN has turned out to be nothing more than a yappy, little dog, afraid to back up their own resolutions. It's true, that except for a morter shell containing serin gas (which is a WMD), we haven't found the WMDs we claimed were there. But, we also have not found any evidence that they were destroyed. We know that Iraq had them. They used them on the Kurds more than once. Because of this, I feel the WMD question is still unanswered. This topic has been run into the ground by both sides. I'm tired of hearing people argue about it when no one has any proof of what happened to them either way. But this is a fact. Iraq was required to show proof that their WMDs had been destroyed by the UN. Iraq did not do that. The UN sat on their hands because they are a bunch of miserable cowards who want to sit on their thrones and pretend that the world is a peaceful place and that everyone just wants to get along. I'm glad the US doesn't indulge in such delusions.

Rangerdown, thanks for that link. It's good to hear the whole story. I just hope that was, in fact, the whole story. It seems that some people in government are trying to mess with our heads on this issue. Unfortunatly, if they want to do so, they can. But, I don't blame the shadey government types as much as I blame the idiots that put them there. So, who is trying to sow fear in America?