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no im not high.. Wiz, melwin, and le and a few work hard on this project.. too hard i believe.. but sometimes you guys do have that attitude.. so.. i just really think you guys should close the source.. make your own servers.. have people play on your servers.. and leave it at that.. it would solve problems in the long run.. close the forums, support.. everything.. sorry but it does solve alot of things in the long run.. pick and choose who you want to have the source.. keep it from everyone else.. /shrugs |
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http://everquest2.station.sony.com/ No public power trips arguments there :) And so, we have a brand new app to hack and try to emulate, because we want a custom version for each server, it's called EQEMu. Let's emulate it. Sry for being sarcastic, but, oh well ... |
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btw .. sorry to name melwin as a dev.. seems he is one as much as hes on the forums.. oh well.. im just a newb with a suggestion as stupid as it may sound... I havent messed with eqemu since mini login stopped.. just jumping from servers to servers to play around a bit.. but not really serious into anything.. heck im still looking for a decent host ... anyways.. ive seen alot of emu's come and go.. and well most all emus have a group of devs that react.. or act this way.. i would have to say 98% of them do...
So why create something just to give to everyone else. then treat people they way you want to.. just close the source close everything.. end the project.. those devs that have a server running keep it running.. and leave it at that... thats all im saying... wiz i dont know what happened with your arguement with dev/noob or who is right or wrong.. and most here will probably never know the real truth.. but i guess it really dont matter and like melwin said should have been kept off the forums.. and Melwin should have just deleted the post and banned him as well from the forums.. oh well thats my post limit for the year.. everyone have a good one |
It is in my opinion that things like this are crucial to express to the public, don't we already get enough lies and coverups from the US Government? :D
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How does every post always turn political? lol
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I stand corrected. :P Edit: And seriously you guys, stop lumping me together with developers. I'm just a guy who moderates the forums. I might not cut you any slack, but I don't do any actual work on the project compared to any given developer. |
I was in IRC when I heard that WC left (dunno who said it) and I haven't heard him post in a while. Maybe I shouldn't have said that huh...
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And an election just took place here. And one that, like our last U.S. election, ended with a handful of people condemning the vote as invalid. |
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No offince i liked image to a point and sorry to see u go then Devn00b i am not gonna take a side on this for my own resons but yea sorry to see yea go and the day melwin is a Dev is the day of the apocalypse >.< |
Being unable to code is a pretty limiting factor in regards to being a developer.
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I never really liked Devn00b or image, but, seeing how bad you guys are going on them makes me think even worse about all of you, you are all fags, i hope u die from something really really painfull, and as soon as possible |
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US politics are so gay anyway, americans are brainwashed too easily , and they dont even see the 2 faces of their leaders, wich is really sad |
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Hi patreecia...you seem new. I'll clue you in on something: Wiz has been around a long time too, perhaps you're the one that should look for a bit of respect when speaking to people.
Just because a person doesn't make news updates on the website constantly about free giveaways etc it doesn't mean they're new to the project. Wiz has been making contributions for years(literally years). EQSpike: Windcatcher didn't leave - try looking at the 3rd party tools section. |
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anyways my views will not change your opinion, but nice trade... melwin for image... you got a deal on that one :roll: |
Killspree, please dont encourage the trolls
2 posts in 1 min from them second one I deleted cause every other word was a curse. just a troll. give them a can of http://mattmeck.rogean.com/emotes/boohoo.GIF instead. http://mattmeck.rogean.com/emotes/emote_pimp.gif |
You act as if image is the only capable coder to ever grace the project. Granted, he did a lot of things, but there are also the people that do lots of things that really don't care about attention. They keep quiet, or just don't have the ability to update the majority of users freely. See my post above.
Fathernitwit is a great example of a very capable coder. |
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you know I was going to have some come back to you dark_one but all you need to do is read back in this thread to see how off base you are.
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Nothing changes... Best wishes, Dev. Good luck with your endeavors.
When will the infighting end? Tell image best of luck too. I like those cats, even if they were constantly fighting with assorted groups. I don't know who was to blame, or what was the problem each time, and I don't claim to be pointing fingers... Just an observation. |
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Most of you don't know me, because i don't post much on the forums, although i do read quite a few messages. I learned quite a lot from this site, gave me some sql and compiling skills to add to my already I.T skills. I think this whole issue with devs leaving, should be left to the devs to decide, end of story. I will contradict myself a little here and say a few things on it. Instead of pointing fingers and bitching at each other i think you should all (the devs, ex and new) find some neutral territory (not irc), and discuss everything, try to reach an agreement. Everyone should calm down a little and realize that you are working towards a common goal (hopefully a eqemu compatable with live). Bickering only hurts the project, team work is the key.
Thorndruid "If power corrupts, and knowledge is power, isn't knowldege corrupt?" |
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As to them giving out the source to there login server well I dont know so Ill let a Dev answer that. and why wasnt this posted in a diferent thread? You LOVE to hyjack threads for your own personal gain, I will be personaly deleting any more hyjacks from you. |
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Secondly, you yourself said that the devs updated the minilogin to be nice, well according to the rules of the GPL, since the code was updated using the code from the server, allowing it to work with the more current versions of the eqemu, then it became a part of the project. the first version maybe not, but any version there after (which was not modified by the original devloper it would seem) became a part of the main project. Now if the person who wrote it was the one updating it then its a different situation, but it sounded as if you meant the devs when you said 'they'. |
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Making personal attacks? too long for me to read? WOW you are so cool. Why didnt I just delete it? Because im not a jerk, I give warnings first. Now if you would like to continue on in a more civilized maner please let me know. Bashing people the first chance you get just proves my point all the more. Have a nice day. |
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The only reason i included the minilogin was to help prove a point, and at the end as a possible helpful solution, it wasn't meant to try and add alot a twist to the subject in the way that it probably sounds, it was all to conclude the fact that the devs do keep control over the project with the way they basicly force you to use their login (yes yes, go write my own i know) but still, it sure seems that they want to keep the project alive, but still keep the control they hold over it, and use the login as the relay for all this work out. Finally i will move it to a new topic to remove the 'hyjack' factor from it. new thread is here http://www.eqemulator.net/forums/vie...?p=95356#95356 |
The fact is... you guys mutinied because he wasn't obeying the rules. Yeah, I admit, the rules count. But, as devnoob said, did you even FOLLOW the rules when mutinying? No, you did not.
Want to know what I suggest? I suggest a public vote, stickied at the top of the EQemu section of the forum, and everyone can vote. This project WILL fall if the dev team does not get their act together. |
Respect for my elders? That is the kind of bullshit that caused this in the first place. Noone has a divine right to be a developer, including me. No single person owns this project. If the majority wanted me off as a dev, I would leave. Additionally, you come off as a major hypocrite. Please check my registration date and then yours, then you can go about resepecting me no matter what I do because I've been here longer than you.
I'll be over here, using my brain to form my own opinions about people. Sorry if that's too hard for you, but at least now that you have discovered registration dates, it'll simplify things for you even more! When Hogie left the project because he was trying to run everything, we agreed (including King Image!) that no single developer should be allowed to run things all on their own because it leads to shit like this. Image had no official crown of EQemu. His ego just believed this. Also, image was voted out. A vast majority of the devs wanted him gone, and to stay gone. It just didn't really happen officially, since he went power mad out of left field. |
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That was back on page one. Just letting you know, Wiz, I'm not agreeing with devnoob on which devs are good and bad. I'm a big fan of your server (even though I can't exactly play :( ). |
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We couldn't make an official vote. He was in the midst of using what power he had to screw up the project. If we had waited to pull access, he could have messed up forums, loginserver, and so on. An unofficial vote was cast in that only two developers opposed image leaving, while considerably more than that agreed with it. |
Okay, I give up. You're right, I'm wrong.
Edit: Are we going to get an official announcement about devnoob and image? |
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patreecia, those were the worst 4 posts ive ever seen in my life, half of them have nothing to do with this thread.
and damn wiz, whats up with the attacks on image? he doesnt sound like the kind of guy who should have leadership in eqemu.. but damn you shouldnt talk about him like that.. if image is willing to keep contributing to eqemu without having leet status, you should let him. if he wont help eqemu unless he's king, i guess your probly better off without him. and if devnoob wont help eqemu anymore unless 3 other people who want to help eqemu just as much leave, your probly better off without him to. what i find funny is this is ALL melwins fault, lol. if melwin left would image and devnoob come back? probly not, melwin just started it, i think you guys got some bigger issues now. |
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You = failure. Edit: Oh, nevermind the fact that Lethal is and was 'the boss', not image. |
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