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afx 12-15-2008 11:46 PM

lol i love the picture of the house... well im sure peq will come back up, this just gives us to enjoy the outside for a while... cause you know once its back up we won't go out for another year or so :P

spoon 12-16-2008 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by unknownhost (Post 161451)
donno if this is important or not but...

i know anyone who knows what they're doing can pull that information up but you might want to consider that if that address & name is the correct person hosting the server (or isnt shrug) they might not want their name & home address posted on this forum. a telephone number is veeery easy to find with that info and theres no telling how many calls he might get asking "whens the server going to be up??!!" :shock:

anyways, just saying, might wana pull that name/addy out of your post before it pisses the wrong guy off possibly bro. :wink:

ummm... I guess. But I would also think anyone who would care would also know how to type "whois projecteq.net" so its not like its causing any harm. If it does, I'm sorry. If you don't want your info known, don't publish it in the yellow pages (of the internet).

demonstar55 12-16-2008 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by paxprobellum (Post 161453)
Yer, especially since the address you gave is some dude's house -- I don't think this is the commercial hosting site of PEQTGC:

the whois address it gives is the address of the person that registered the domain, or who currently owns it, of course the hosting site wouldn't own it, who ever owns the website would (aka CD, or someone paying the bill for CD)

Funno 12-16-2008 04:19 PM

Hmm... Still no updates? Does this mean that CD can't access the internet at all?

renoofturks1 12-16-2008 04:54 PM

The server is hosted in the west, the power outage is not the problem with it. It was San Fran before it's move during September, I'm not sure where it is located now, but it didn't move far. CD on the other hand MIGHT be located in the NE, and the power outage may be keeping him from responding. He will post a response when he is able I'm sure.

KLS 12-16-2008 05:37 PM

I had talked to him day before yesterday and basically he said he didn't post because he didn't have an update. Haven't seen him since early yesterday though.

Funno 12-16-2008 05:46 PM

When he said that he doesn't have an update, does it mean that he doesn't know what's wrong?

trevius 12-16-2008 05:51 PM

Is that Funno from Drinal/GotK? If so, how have you been man? Long time no see lol :D Sorry about the thread derail :P

Funno 12-16-2008 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by trevius (Post 161500)
Is that Funno from Drinal/GotK? If so, how have you been man? Long time no see lol :D Sorry about the thread derail :P

I actually played on RZ =P. This is my first pve server ever and I'm having a blast so far. Can't believe it's been almost 5 years since I quit EQ live.

cavedude 12-16-2008 08:08 PM

Sorry guys, I know just as much as you all do. Though, I suspect the problem is hardware related like last time.

In any event, PEQ will be back up eventually even if I have to host it myself.

Machine33 12-16-2008 08:39 PM

Thanks for posting CD, it gives us hope that PEQ will be back soon cause I am straight up jonsing! For real though just seeing you post helps me relax I would be crused if PEQ was gone for good so this puts me a little at ease.

Machine

Teltic 12-16-2008 09:07 PM

hrm
 
in the mean time, is there a place I can download the stuff from projecteq.net that I need to make a server?

unknownhost 12-16-2008 09:31 PM

Teltic, probably is somwhere to find the recent peq server setup stuff but donno that info meself.

however this might be helpful to you.

leslamarch's portable eq emu

alblagg 12-16-2008 10:09 PM

I'm pretty sure the most recent version of the db is on sourceforge, just do a search for PEQ and you should pull it up.

Daenarys 12-17-2008 03:28 PM

whimper
 
ive been forced to play on TZ/VZ...not fun...

Funno 12-17-2008 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Daenarys (Post 161550)
ive been forced to play on TZ/VZ...not fun...

I tried playing there but couldn't bring myself to lvl up... /sigh I'll just have to wait for the PEQ to come back up

Ikeren 12-17-2008 04:13 PM

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ive been forced to play on TZ/VZ...not fun...
I got a necromancer trapped in Paineel due to buggy lifts.

kamway 12-17-2008 07:35 PM

n00bs
 
its not that difficult really, just have to make sure you care for a server and not use it as a coffee table. in my opinion and i live in Littleton CO where the server is, didnt have any power outages, nor was it a result of poor connection, was on the whole time thro comcast which is the primary out this way, and had no problems at all with ip or isp. the dude probably got arrested for crack and sold his computer for bail money. ... in my opinion. PEQ will never be back online there could never be any issues with a condor 386 which is turned into a slave pony server to run a dinosaur game like EQ that cant be resolved, hate to break it to you, but mabye now its time to go get a girlfriend *wink* winK*

elation 12-18-2008 11:49 AM

What's sad is that the server stability has been rock solid these past couple of weeks. After the last "ordeal" it was quite unstable most of the time not to mention the severe lag issues that ensued. So after a couple weeks of bliss, we're down again. :( I fear it's going to be a very long time before we see PEQ online again. Please note - I'm a little paranoid when it comes to these types of things. :)

The good news is: My house is clean. I'll have time to do some Christmas shopping now. I might even bake some treats for work. And if it gets really bad, I might *gasp* start working out again. :D

demonstar55 12-18-2008 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by elation (Post 161593)
What's sad is that the server stability has been rock solid these past couple of weeks. After the last "ordeal" it was quite unstable most of the time not to mention the severe lag issues that ensued. So after a couple weeks of bliss, we're down again. :( I fear it's going to be a very long time before we see PEQ online again. Please note - I'm a little paranoid when it comes to these types of things. :)

The good news is: My house is clean. I'll have time to do some Christmas shopping now. I might even bake some treats for work. And if it gets really bad, I might *gasp* start working out again. :D

PEQ will be back

ghostriderdoom 12-18-2008 12:46 PM

PEQ will be back
 
It has to be a hardware issue, so as soon as they figure out what went buggy, they will fix it and we will be back . just hope its soon is all. Last time server went down for 2 weeks cause of Obama alot of people quit the game , and we were just getting a bunch of new faces to :(

Come back PEQ come back...........

elation 12-18-2008 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ghostriderdoom (Post 161596)
Come back PEQ come back...........

Had a flash back to the movie - Titanic. :D

It's amazing how attached to a game one can become. I really hope it's up at least by Christmas when I'm off work and there is nothing to do.

tlbww 12-18-2008 02:36 PM

This is the beginnings of a sad holiday.

Oh well. Off to Hellgate and Tabala Raza.

EvoZak 12-18-2008 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tlbww (Post 161601)
This is the beginnings of a sad holiday.

Oh well. Off to Hellgate and Tabala Raza.

TR is shutting down Feb. 28

Kayot 12-18-2008 09:46 PM

Oh the irony...

Wonder if they'll release the Tabala Raza server code and database if I ask nicely. Never played it, but it would be fun to have it and the game on hand should I ever decide too.

Vast 12-18-2008 10:14 PM

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Last time server went down for 2 weeks cause of Obama alot of people quit the game
WTF?

Anywho, CD if you do decide to start up a new box and want some help with the capital just most the paypal link.

renoofturks1 12-18-2008 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ghostriderdoom (Post 161596)
Last time server went down for 2 weeks cause of Obama alot of people quit the game

More likely just the normal population fluctuations that occur. As of last week, the population was commonly over 200, considerably higher than the summer peaks of 120-140. It happens every year, higher during early winter and early summer, tapering off during mid-summer and the spring.

And Vast, wtf? Try logging on every now and then, I tire of insulting Nork. It no longer amuses me. And to top it all off, Paladin's are popping up everywhere, it's getting out of hand! Damn plague!

unknownhost 12-19-2008 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Kayot (Post 161610)
Oh the irony...

Wonder if they'll release the Tabala Raza server code and database if I ask nicely. Never played it, but it would be fun to have it and the game on hand should I ever decide too.

wish they would do stuff like this.
i really wanted to give tabula rasa a chance back when i first heard of it and that Garriot(sp?) was doing it. donno what happen but i lost track and then boom it was out and alot of the reviews i read were tales of suckage.

love to give it a try now, anyone know of other mmorpg's that have shut down relasing any kind of code? i know AC2 closed but as far as i know they never released anything publicly??

Loccochris 12-19-2008 01:48 AM

No MMORPG developer would ever release their code. With so much investment into making them even just holding rights to engine/code/name is worth not releasing it.

Closest thing to what you want would have to be Ragnorok(sp) online which had a leak of their entire server code. Essentially the years it takes to reverse engineer an emulator they went from 0% done to 100% done in matter of minutes. Illegal of course but that is not going to stop servers from popping up with the server code. If they try to shut down a site another will just pop up, so most companies don't even bother just like with pirating software safety in masses and mobility.

As for a list of emulated servers aka freeshard games:

UO
EQ
Ragnorok Online (actual copy of live code)
Lineage
Lineage II
DAoC
WoW
Asherons Call

Supposedly Maplestory but I have yet to see this done. People claim it is impossible, I can only assume NCGuard blocks any type of packet sniffer which is going to be a big problem heh. Sad too cause I would think the time to actually reverse engineer a 2d side scrolling game would be a fraction of all that is EQ or a similar 3d game. Not exactly all that much packet sniffing I would think game has limited controls.

EQII is in alpha testing, one would estimate a playable version and beta within a year.

unknownhost 12-19-2008 03:07 AM

wow, i didnt realize there was a daoc emu available!

i gotta say ima about to do some searching! was quite involved in that game at its release, my guild even held #1 realm points on our server for that time...many memories there. wow i bet by now it even has non-pvp content...

hehe thanks you just gave me somthing to do! :grin:

tlbww 12-19-2008 05:19 AM

Tabula Rasa is one of the shortest lived MMos every made that I know. Right up there next to it is Hellgate London.

Funny thingabout Tabula Rasa. I paid for a suscription about 4 days before it went under publicly. I asked for a refund for unrelated hardware issues and it was reinstated. Then I get an email saying that the servers will be doing down next month and I get to play for free. Talk about luck. They only give this priviledge to those that subscribed before the cut off date of their announced retirement.

PlayNc is pushing Lineage and that new game Aion on me now... I've played Lineage but I'm more interested in Aion though my comp would probably explode when I install it.`

unknownhost 12-19-2008 05:28 AM

man i donno how long this fix will last as i always felt daoc was a totally inferior pvE game to eq but with very decent pvp aspects (as a stealther at least). quit playing the game due to my class being a key one who got floundered hard with the nerf bat in a nasty series of patchs early on and, well, it pissed me off and i lost alotta interest... 8)

Dawn of Light

like how they've done things. seems to be amazingly simple thus far but lets see what digging deeper turns up. nice to see mysql in use to start off...

kiirdiir 12-19-2008 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Loccochris (Post 161621)
No MMORPG developer would ever release their code.

Quote:

"Cyan Worlds, Inc., creators of the Myst franchise, has decided to make their unsuccessful MMORPG Myst Online: Uru Live into an open source game. They will release all the source code for the client, server, and tools.
http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl...8/12/13/041200

porigromus 12-19-2008 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loccochris (Post 161621)
No MMORPG developer would ever release their code. With so much investment into making them even just holding rights to engine/code/name is worth not releasing it.

Closest thing to what you want would have to be Ragnorok(sp) online which had a leak of their entire server code. Essentially the years it takes to reverse engineer an emulator they went from 0% done to 100% done in matter of minutes. Illegal of course but that is not going to stop servers from popping up with the server code. If they try to shut down a site another will just pop up, so most companies don't even bother just like with pirating software safety in masses and mobility.

As for a list of emulated servers aka freeshard games:

UO
EQ
Ragnorok Online (actual copy of live code)
Lineage
Lineage II
DAoC
WoW
Asherons Call

Supposedly Maplestory but I have yet to see this done. People claim it is impossible, I can only assume NCGuard blocks any type of packet sniffer which is going to be a big problem heh. Sad too cause I would think the time to actually reverse engineer a 2d side scrolling game would be a fraction of all that is EQ or a similar 3d game. Not exactly all that much packet sniffing I would think game has limited controls.

EQII is in alpha testing, one would estimate a playable version and beta within a year.


To bad EQ trilogy wasn't leaked. : P At least the code would still be in tact. SOE claims they don't have it anymore from that time period .. but I always doubt that. Wouldn't an intelligent company keep archives?

Kayot 12-19-2008 02:53 PM

I think I'll send an e-mail to the staff at Tabala Raza, the worst they can do is say no.

I figure if they can put a DO NOT SELL in their clause for the server, they might just release a compiled server publicly. Sure that means it can't have bug fixes, but maybe releasing the server code might help offset their losses through game sales. Read as, release the server, not the client. It's evil, I know... But as things stand right now, they wont even pull a profit. If nothing else, maybe they can make a minilogin type server like eqemu did...

As for PEQ, I hope it comes back soon. I had a bunch of suggestions (Not DB related) for the server.

Pyjamarama 12-19-2008 09:15 PM

I know that a group of players tried to buy the rights to the Saga of Ryzom and then release it to the public, but it never happened because other companies always outbid them... and always failed to make a profit.

You can read about it here: http://www.ryzom.org

I'm guessing that at least a third of all new MMOs coming out will be shut down within a few years. Things that depend on profit for survival have a short lifespan, whereas things in the public domain are essentially immortal. So I definitely believe EQEmu will outlive SOE. Hopefully PEQ will be back up soon...

elation 12-19-2008 11:02 PM

Have we heard anything else? I'm really bored out of my skull and craving some EQ.

Vast 12-20-2008 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Reno The Ranger
And Vast, wtf? Try logging on every now and then, I tire of insulting Nork. It no longer amuses me. And to top it all off, Paladin's are popping up everywhere, it's getting out of hand! Damn plague!

Hard to do when the server isn't up :P Actually, I was gearing up to come back when this all went down. If it ever gets going again we'll see. Sad part is from all the servers left there really aren't any contenders for a PEQ clone. The ones that are close to PEQ are the fly-by-night type and fuck investing that amount of time in toons only to have it drop off in 2 months.

I think I'll pretty much wait and see what CD does. If he decides to pursuit it, I'll support him financially, if not, well then my social life will continue to not suck :)

tlbww 12-21-2008 04:47 PM

My Xmas and New year wish is for PEQ to both come back, come back stronger than ever, come back to stay, and a PS3 =)

liquest 12-21-2008 05:06 PM

i was wondering whats a good substitute for pew being down


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