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Shendare 10-14-2015 07:02 PM

I believe a more precise phrasing would be 'imagining the most basic, big-picture steps required in a path forward'. Your current absence of programming and database skills limit your ability to develop such a path. Education and talent in 3D graphics, 2D UI development, prose fiction authorship... these things would also be helpful for such development. Telling people to break ties with others they have long worked and played with and simplifying a years-long development process into such phrases as 'taking the DikuMUD code and slapping a GUI on it' do not fit well with the intention of developing a successor to a multi-million dollar corporate product now in its nineteenth year of continual development.

mgellan 10-14-2015 07:06 PM

Personally I'd use LambdaMOO, object oriented y'know. I coded a shitload of stuff in MOO code on Dragonsfire MOO, including a Harper Songbook that emitted muzak and responded to RP queues in the crowd while emitting songs. Good times :)

Of course, that assumes your central hypothesis has some merit, which alas falls into the "I don't understand it so it must be easy" category.

Regards,
Mg

MarcusD 10-14-2015 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mgellan (Post 244382)
Personally I'd use LambdaMOO, object oriented y'know. I coded a shitload of stuff in MOO code on Dragonsfire MOO, including a Harper Songbook that emitted muzak and responded to RP queues in the crowd while emitting songs. Good times :)

Of course, that assumes your central hypothesis has some merit, which alas falls into the "I don't understand it so it must be easy" category.

Regards,
Mg

From what I've gathered MOO was the backbone of Ultima Online, the sims and other games like that. MUD was the backbone of EQ, then blizzard somehow ripped off EQ it seems like to make WoW. Even if EQ wrote a new diku like MUD from scratch it is plainly obvious that EQ is a MUD at its core without a doubt. So MUD seems to be that really challenging combat mechanic wheras MOO is more social games. I would be interested to find out how SimCity/rollercoaster tycoon/incredible machine type of game started out.

Kingly_Krab 10-14-2015 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MarcusD (Post 244383)
From what I've gathered MOO was the backbone of Ultima Online, the sims and other games like that. MUD was the backbone of EQ, then blizzard somehow ripped off EQ it seems like to make WoW. Even if EQ wrote a new diku like MUD from scratch it is plainly obvious that EQ is a MUD at its core without a doubt. So MUD seems to be that really challenging combat mechanic wheras MOO is more social games. I would be interested to find out how SimCity/rollercoaster tycoon/incredible machine type of game started out.

From what you've gathered? Are the voices in your head giving you all of this information?

Burningsoul 10-14-2015 07:39 PM

Naw, his sources don't exist. None of us do either. We're all figments of imagination in this fucks' head he invented to keep himself company. We're foster's home for imaginary eqemus.

Shendare 10-14-2015 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Burningsoul (Post 244389)
eqemus.

https://i.imgur.com/Xhtqnpx.jpg

Kingly_Krab 10-14-2015 07:43 PM

I found MarcusD!!
http://www.hdforums.com/forum/attach...ek-cosplay.jpg

provocating 10-14-2015 07:46 PM

This guy is crazier than a sprayed cockroach.

ghanja 10-14-2015 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarcusD (Post 244383)
From what I've gathered MOO was the backbone of Ultima Online, the sims and other games like that. MUD was the backbone of EQ, then blizzard somehow ripped off EQ it seems like to make WoW. Even if EQ wrote a new diku like MUD from scratch it is plainly obvious that EQ is a MUD at its core without a doubt. So MUD seems to be that really challenging combat mechanic wheras MOO is more social games. I would be interested to find out how SimCity/rollercoaster tycoon/incredible machine type of game started out.

Stop the presses. Someone let Don Daglow know that he was ripped off. DikuMUD was surely a copy of his Dungeon. But, maybe DikuMUD took some ideas from LOTRD, which in turn may have swiped ideas from my door game, seeing that I released mine 5 months before Seth released his. All this time I just shrugged it off and thought "a much nicer implementation" and even played it myself.

Maybe if I scrounge around I could find the old Pascal source to the door game and you could wrap a GUI around that?

The rage, delusions and such sure are entertaining though.

Shendare 10-14-2015 08:30 PM

D&D ripped off Lord of the Rings! Lord of the Rings ripped off Greek, Roman, and Celtic mythology! Take back all the money for the mystics!!! :P

Tabasco 10-14-2015 10:47 PM

I remember the whole dikumud controversy. The only real similarities were text descriptions during fighting. It would be more likely that Anarchy Online copied from a mud because they used TCP instead of UDP for things like movement updates in the beginning. (It failed miserably under load, rubber-banding, etc.)
In terms of technology, muds have nothing to offer a real-time game. In terms of content, claiming a genre is like trying to patent a fart.

Honestly, I don't have a dog in this fight and obvious troll is obvious, but Caryatis made a post and that makes this thread special.

AdrianD 10-14-2015 11:45 PM

Hey guys!

I have a question that many of you who responded/got trolled/whatever in this thread could probably answer on a different thread where my question resides.

Thanks for the replies.

EDIT: for anyone actually interested in assisting, here is the link to the thread, last post

http://www.eqemulator.org/forums/sho...t=40039&page=5

MarcusD 10-18-2015 01:19 AM

Am I insane or does this look like the funnest thing to do on earth? I think C is my own personal heaven. I am going to be starting from scratch like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sfNHDtcOZk

N0ctrnl 10-18-2015 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MarcusD (Post 244532)
Am I insane

That would certianly explain a lot.

Maze_EQ 10-19-2015 08:11 AM

MarcusD, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post was there anything that could even be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this forum is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul!"

P.S

Fire is hot, die in one.


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