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lindane8 09-20-2008 11:23 PM

exactly
 
i would never want peq to be a pvp server but if we make it on a choise base it is obviously that more fun

Obake420 09-21-2008 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Kagatob (Post 156439)
This is the EXACT reason I don't like PVP, what you have to gain from ganking them like that? Nothing! It's not like you couldn't have shared the boat. They weren't camping anything that you wanted, all you did was ruin their day because now they had to go on a CR and wait for the boat yet again.

thats just because your a newb it takes skill to pay attention to the zones your in and make sure you watch your back. EQ is easy enough as it is with the Point and click and auto attack....mobs are'nt the brightest its agro based. im not dissing PEQ i like it, but PvP does take more skill. they could have beat me but they didn't know how...why take the easy road to games? slackers...i tell ya :P

Kagatob 09-21-2008 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Obake420 (Post 156441)
thats just because your a newb it takes skill to pay attention to the zones your in and make sure you watch your back. EQ is easy enough as it is with the Point and click and auto attack....mobs are'nt the brightest its agro based. im not dissing PEQ i like it, but PvP does take more skill. they could have beat me but they didn't know how...why take the easy road to games? slackers...i tell ya :P

Standard griefer response, you didn't even answer me about what you had to gain because all you gained was "haha I ganked this punk", another reason I don't PVP.
Sorry but if I want to play a game that involves reactionary skill to battle other players that's what FPSs are for. I play EverQuest for the quests.

ChaosSlayer 09-21-2008 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kagatob (Post 156442)
Standard griefer response, you didn't even answer me about what you had to gain because all you gained was "haha I ganked this punk", another reason I don't PVP.
Sorry but if I want to play a game that involves reactionary skill to battle other players that's what FPSs are for. I play EverQuest for the quests.

EQ actualy provides far greater potential to PvP than any FPS due to great diffirences bewten strategies bewteen classes.
So yeah- EQ is a great source for PvP, far better than any FPS out there

On WoW, which is generaly accepted as more childish and easy than eq, they have prabobly 100 times more PvP than eq - they don't even have such category as "blue" server - once you steped out in battleground - you a valid target to be ganked. I know a girl who is WoW PvP build shadow priest - she is prety uber but she refuses to raid cuase- "raids - and mobs in general - boring and stupid". She only raids people =)

so, some people play eq not just to quest, accept that

PS. I myself suck at PvP... unless of course I get to use the Gm powers vs my players on my server :grin:

Kagatob 09-21-2008 02:28 AM

You just named most of the reasons I don't play WoW, though I did get a good chuckle at the MMOs > FPS in PVP, but we've gone off topic enough already.

Come back soon PEQ!

lindane8 09-21-2008 10:14 AM

yea but back to my question
 
what would it hurt to take a "dead" Zone and make it a BG and have all us pvpers go at it with out effecting any PVE what so ever i mean what would that hurt and then it would even bring more players to PEQ because it would be that much better ..i love peq but it does lack a huge element of EQ and im trying to start a poll or something to get cavedood to consider allowing some PVP so who's with me

Angelox 09-21-2008 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by lindane8 (Post 156463)
what would it hurt to take a "dead" Zone and make it a BG and have all us pvpers go at it with out effecting any PVE what so ever i mean what would that hurt and then it would even bring more players to PEQ because it would be that much better ..i love peq but it does lack a huge element of EQ and im trying to start a poll or something to get cavedood to consider allowing some PVP so who's with me

The thread here is about the PEQ server being down ( not making it a PVP server), there are rules against de-railing threads.

lindane8 09-21-2008 10:20 AM

ok then
 
whens the server coming back up?

renoofturks1 09-21-2008 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by lindane8 (Post 156463)
what would it hurt to take a "dead" Zone and make it a BG and have all us pvpers go at it with out effecting any PVE what so ever i mean what would that hurt and then it would even bring more players to PEQ because it would be that much better ..i love peq but it does lack a huge element of EQ and im trying to start a poll or something to get cavedood to consider allowing some PVP so who's with me

You mean, a zone like, The Arena? Odd idea....

lindane8 09-21-2008 10:35 AM

i was thinking like emerald jungle or something like that..an the arena is a pvp area don't get me wrong but who goes there? ..and why is it an odd idea?

valic007 09-21-2008 11:33 AM

damn still no peq and nothing from cavedude this isnt good and as for pvp we may wanna change topic before thread gets locked

Fingel 09-21-2008 11:49 AM

1 week no PEQ! Hows everyone holding out? I started playing on a server called "The Realm" Only has a few players but you get to spawn bots to group with you. Its SO fun! Maybe I'll see a few of you there!

lindane8 09-21-2008 11:50 AM

man 4get this crap
 
im going buy warrhammer

gierkep85 09-21-2008 06:09 PM

So...
 
Does that mean since its a hotel itll likely be down for the week or so?

lindane8 09-21-2008 08:04 PM

its already been a week
 
:confused:

gierkep85 09-22-2008 12:28 AM

New here sorry
 
Just curious, how many people generally on PEQ was noticing another server only had 19 on during what i would assume are peak hours. No Titanium yet but since PEQ is down i figure no huge hurry

Itchybottom 09-22-2008 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by gierkep85 (Post 156543)
Just curious, how many people generally on PEQ was noticing another server only had 19 on during what i would assume are peak hours. No Titanium yet but since PEQ is down i figure no huge hurry

There are usually 140-200 clients connected to PEQ during our peak hours. You'll know it starts when poknowledge gets over 35s lag for opening a simple door, and people start bitching about being disconnected. Oh how EQEMU crumbles under load. :grin:

gierkep85 09-22-2008 04:50 AM

oh
 
Hadn't occurred to me lag was a major issue. Is that a function of EQEMU or of the machine the servers are run on?

Felwithe 09-22-2008 07:47 AM

I've been using my PEQ down time playing on TZ/VK. I've always played blue servers, and this has been a real eye opener. I already had a good idea what PvPers were like, since every blue server I've ever been on has the occasional PvP troll who randomly logs in and insults the entire server for being inferior to PvP (incidentally, blues never log into the PvP servers and engage in such stupid and childish antics).

On the ooc channels, it's nonstop gutter talk - probably pre-teens who feel a rush at getting to say every despicable thing they can think of. A good half of the players on the server have no interest in beating the game - just hunting each other. They bind camp, corpse camp, intentionally train - whatever they can do to grief others. Plus a pretty high percentage of the players are using warp programs.

PvPers basically hate themselves and everyone else - they have your typical troll personality. They can't stand having just a few servers of their own - they are truly bothered that servers exist where they don't have the power to grief, thus the continual stream of trolls who log in to hurl insults.

PEQ is by far the best server on EQEMU, but if it went red, most of the decent players would eventually find homes elsewhere. I sure would. And I can't imagine what a pain it would be to GM an entire server of griefers, which is probably why TZ/VZ changed its original rules (no bind camping, no corpse camping, ect.) and now allows anything to go.

Itchybottom 09-22-2008 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Felwithe
A good half of the players on the server have no interest in beating the game - just hunting each other. They bind camp, corpse camp, intentionally train - whatever they can do to grief others. Plus a pretty high percentage of the players are using warp programs.

Warp detection is pretty sensitive on Daxum's server. But yeah, I've seen people warp through doors. More people on PEQ actually warp around, than on VZ/TZ. What do you think the latest mass temporary ban was all about? :D No more loot and scoot rules? Awesome! (You mention it below.) I always felt it was pretty weak/carebear, but I understand it's place.

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Originally Posted by Felwithe
PvPers basically hate themselves and everyone else - they have your typical troll personality. They can't stand having just a few servers of their own - they are truly bothered that servers exist where they don't have the power to grief, thus the continual stream of trolls who log in to hurl insults.

'stfu bluebie!', I kid. I come from Rallos Zek. I played from 99 until it turned to Zek, and Hate became the most powerful force on the server. I only took a 2 year break from 2004-2006, and now I'm back on live checking out Zek again. I have a level 50 enchanter on VZ/TZ that I stopped playing shortly after loot was removed. I love PVP. I think it takes a more cool head to exist on such a server, it's not for everyone. Back to the thread:

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Originally Posted by Felwithe
PEQ is by far the best server on EQEMU, but if it went red, most of the decent players would eventually find homes elsewhere. I sure would. And I can't imagine what a pain it would be to GM an entire server of griefers, which is probably why TZ/VZ changed its original rules (no bind camping, no corpse camping, ect.) and now allows anything to go.

cavedude never said that it would turn PVP. ProjectEQ's charter is to approximate live as closely as possible, and people that play are supposed to be testing/reporting bugs. It's a community effort, but in a nutshell: Playing is just a reward for doing so [reporting bugs]. Optimism is key in any community project, moral has to stay high so interest continues. Nothing Earth-shattering like a PVP rule system or a server wipe is going to happen any time soon, yet it keeps being brought up. In the event it did go PVP (which is not happening!,) it'd be easier to manage the people as a GM (for me anyway, and I think Reno would probably enjoy watching people clobber each other to death, though the spectacle might take away from his world building time. . .) "Soandso just trained us in Vex Thal. omg do something." could not be responded with "Settle it between yourselves, kill the person and take the zone back." But I digress. . .

The server still has no ETA for being up (though I'd guess it'll be sometime during this week based on previous experience with HVAC monkeys in a datacenter scenario) and though I love to see people posting how awesome the server is, the occasional "Well if that happens we'll migrate" thing is getting old, especially when it's been stated nothing is going to change. The team puts a lot of work into the server, people come and go, the drama doesn't help any. Nor do the jabs at other server operator staff for their server sucking in comparison. Daxum has helped this community quite a bit, and his warp detection code (though slightly altered) is running on PEQ. Don't throw eggs at his world just because you can't hang! :wink:

BoginDA 09-22-2008 01:15 PM

Grateful
 
I just wanted to make a post saying I appreciate all of your time and energy Cavedude. There are a bunch of posts from impatient people complaining, and I wanted there to be a post you could read to feel good about, not annoyed.

You've got a great server going, and until this extended downtime have had a great record for reliability. I look forward to playing on your server again when it comes up, but until then I realize you have done what you can, and appreciate that.

renoofturks1 09-22-2008 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Itchybottom (Post 156580)
manage the people as a GM (for me anyway, and I think Reno would probably enjoy watching people clobber each other to death, though the spectacle might take away from his world building time. . .) "Soandso just trained us in Vex Thal. omg do something." could not be responded with "Settle it between yourselves, kill the person and take the zone back."

My..how I dream of such things.....

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the occasional "Well if that happens we'll migrate" thing is getting old, especially when it's been stated nothing is going to change.
When I first started contributing to the project, this bothered me. It was not long before I came to the realization that, I could give a crap if you move on. Whatever server you go to, there is a 75% chance that it still uses some, or all, of the things I helped create. Your stuck with me buddy =)

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The team puts a lot of work into the server, people come and go, the drama doesn't help any. Nor do the jabs at other server operator staff for their server sucking in comparison. Daxum has helped this community quite a bit, and his warp detection code (though slightly altered) is running on PEQ. Don't throw eggs at his world just because you can't hang! :wink:
Well said. TZ/VZ is a wonderful creation, and is a integral part of this community. It should be heralded for the things it has accomplished.

Now, could we just stop polluting the EQEmu forum's like it's the PEQ General Forum? Our server discussion does not belong here.

lucid.reverie 09-22-2008 02:28 PM

Peq
 
I concur with BoginDA, Cavedude. Thanks for all the hard work - it's easy to get comfortable with a great free gaming experience, and frankly (as many will agree) after enough time on PEQ it's difficult to find any other EQ Emu server that adds up. We'll be waiting ... as patiently as we can.

Lucid

ghostriderdoom 09-22-2008 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BoginDA (Post 156585)
I just wanted to make a post saying I appreciate all of your time and energy Cavedude. There are a bunch of posts from impatient people complaining, and I wanted there to be a post you could read to feel good about, not annoyed.

You've got a great server going, and until this extended downtime have had a great record for reliability. I look forward to playing on your server again when it comes up, but until then I realize you have done what you can, and appreciate that.

I just wanted to 2nd this exact thought, Cave Dude and the rest of the team you guys have an awesome server, easily the best emulator out there :)

Now someone kick those AC guys in the shorts and get them moving !!!!!!

lindane8 09-22-2008 03:54 PM

jeesh
 
you guys act like all people who pvp are 10 year old kids who beat animals .either that or u suck at pvp and have gotten ganked allot . u have good eggs and bad eggs and as much as i like pvp i don't want peq to be a pvp server..but i would like pvp to be in the server i mean what harm is there in fixing duel bug..if you don't want to duel then ..don't accept the challenge...chicken...:P

:grin:

Secrets 09-22-2008 06:37 PM

PEQ + PvP = no.

Stay on topic, or i'll have to sick my guard dogs on you.

(Cripp and Trev)

valic007 09-22-2008 06:43 PM

man still no peq im gonna have to go outside this week (joke) lol

Kagatob 09-23-2008 02:25 PM

Miss you PEQ!

trevius 09-23-2008 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Secrets (Post 156620)
PEQ + PvP = no.

Stay on topic, or i'll have to sick my guard dogs on you.

(Cripp and Trev)

RUFF RUFF!

acepanther 09-23-2008 06:38 PM

Is there a mirror where we can get the files that were hosted on the PEQ web site while it is down?

renoofturks1 09-23-2008 06:39 PM

I can get you the 1129 DB if you want, just shoot me a PM

cavedude 09-23-2008 06:50 PM

None of the files are hosted on PEQ, they are all hosted on Sourceforge. http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...roup_id=203971

elation 09-24-2008 10:36 AM

In the interim I've been playing here: http://www.scarsofamerous.com/

It's fun. Super fast leveling and crazy gear. Got some toons to 75 with close to 200AAs. 8-)

Ok back to work. Here's to hoping PEQ will be up soon...

Nemyar 09-24-2008 11:31 AM

Figures this is when I finally get around to installing Titanium to check out PEQ, lol. Anybody wanna fill me in on what I've missed so far? What level are most people by now?

lindane8 09-24-2008 04:46 PM

hey whats up?
 
i was wondering what the status of PEQ i being turned on is does anyone know or is PEQ over and done with?

spoon 09-24-2008 05:12 PM

OMG OMG OMG OMG


Code:

~ > ping www.projecteq.net
PING www.projecteq.net (66.28.184.13): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 66.28.184.13: icmp_seq=0 ttl=53 time=50 ms
64 bytes from 66.28.184.13: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=50 ms
64 bytes from 66.28.184.13: icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=51 ms


jtuma007 09-24-2008 05:14 PM

The page just says "The new PEQ TGC EQEmu server."
Heres to hoping its a precursor to being up and not just the server guys getting tired of 404 errors =)

Fingel 09-24-2008 05:42 PM

The New server? Does that mean they are deserting the old ACless server in the messed up data farm finally? Hope its faster!

ghostriderdoom 09-24-2008 06:00 PM

Maybe Cavedude decided to temporarily move the server since this AC crap is talking so long. This is rediculous to have any building without A/C for 1 and 1/2 weeks if u ask me. GO GO CaveDude GO !!!!!

Whatever is happenenhing lets hope it comes up in the middle of the night so we can play in the morning :)

lindane8 09-24-2008 09:05 PM

Ca.CA.CAAA.cAPTAIN CAVEMAN!!DOOD
 
If you guys need help or anything from us it is cool,please caveguy keep us updated on the current status of the server and let us know whats the plans in the future/if you have anything on the current status of our great server please keep us informed , we can work it out if it is script my friends ::wink:


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