Titanium and Wine
 

Has anyone had any luck since wine made it past 1.0?

I just tried installing the titanium client again and am still having the no model issue. I can get into the game fine and run around, set all my options and interact with the other "ghosts" in the world, just no models. It has to be a d3d.dll file that needs to be set as native or something?

The only other issue I can see is that I need to play it in windowed mode otherwise the mouse gets trapped in the center of the screen and I can only move it in a small 2" x 2" box.

Anyway I figured I would beat on this dead horse a bit more and if anyone cares to join me I would love some help to try to finally solve this one.

I never had much luck with wine and titanium but Cedega runs it with no issues except for lag when in windowed mode.

gah cedega... I tried that once it was more of a headache than anything, and I could never get eq to work with it without the same no model issue. This was probably about 6 months ago or so, and my subscription ran out.

I see over at wineHQ they marked live as gold so I take it that that the newest version of EQ works fine in wine.

Maybe I will give cedega cvs a shot, since I do not want to get into thier subscription thing again.

Edit: scratch that I just read somewhere that cedega cvs has not been updated for quite a long time.

vid card
 

mabey use a differnt vid card?? just a though

Your problem is your lack of an NVidia graphics card. Most likely you have an ATI, which, unfortunately, has the worst linux driver's in the goddamn world.

It is a laptop that has an nvidia card, I only use nvidia =)

laptop specs:

CPU Type Intel Core 2 Duo T9400 2.53G
Screen 15.4" WSXGA+
Memory Size 4GB DDR2
Hard Disk 500GB - 2 (250G 7200RPM in Raid 0)
Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9800M GS
Video Memory 512MB DDR3

Running Gentoo Linux AMD64 version with Wine 1.1.10 and nvidia-drivers version 177.82

I am using xfce4 desktop with a user account set up just for gaming with compositing and desktop effects turned off.

The wine website has a .dll you can DL to fix the model issue.

I tried that .dll right after I installed the game and it did not work. I belive that .dll is for the newer live client.

Dunno then, I use Cedega and it runs fine on mine.

I have a copy of crossover games maybe I will give that a shot before I jump into another cedega subscription. Wish I saved my old cedega binaries, however they never worked for my anyway. Must be newer versions.

I have Titanium working with wine, but I had to patch & recompile wine for it to work. From the bug report on the appdb page for EQ:

"Works For Me". HTH!

hmm I will have to give this a shot. Does it affect other games you have running under wine. I also run WoW and a few others. So I would want to make sure they still all work if I patched.

I've been fooling with this all afternoon, used to use Cedega, but really have no need for it other than to play EQ, and Cedega really doesn't support Everquest anymore - it just so happens they did at one time, so it still 'half-assed' works ( I never could get all the pixel shader-versions to work, and it was slow and choppy).
With Wine, I got all the way to the point where I get in the game but have no characters or NPCs.
this link helped a lot too.
I think my problem is the Eq Client does not see my Video card properly , as it as listed as 'Hal', which must be a 'filler' when nothing else is found.

Crossover or Cedega
 

both can be found on the net if you'll look you'll find them 80)
i have used both on xandros and ubunto linux system and had no problems running eq on them . i liked cedega until i looked at my credit card and found out the billing wouldn't stop so i had to tell the bank i lost my credit card and wanted a new number problem solved 80) i have both the newest version of cedega and crossover pro version plus older versions as well.

Are you currently playing titanium on the newer version of crossover?

I have crossover games 7.1.2 that I can try. Anything special you had to to do get it to work or just install and play?

Crossover-games 7.1.2 has the "no model" issue after installing out of the box and doing the regular eqemu playguide setup steps.

I will see if I can find some tweaks that may help. Install went fine and the game starts right up with the following command:

I installed the game in a bottle called EQ with winxp template:

Other than no models the game seems playable.

copying over the modified d3dx9_30.dll file linked on the wine site did not work. I don't have a copy of the regular d3dx9_30.dll file to test with as of yet. May have to install xp in a virtualbox to get it.

Here's an outline of what I did to get Wine and Titanium to work - I got this info from the posts at WineHQ forums ;
- Uninstall all Wine versions you have running
- Download and place this dll in your Everquest client directory
- Download and place this ini file in your Everquest client directory (overwrite what you have).
- Download Wine Version 1.1.12
You need to add a line to one of the files in /wine-1.1.12/dlls/d3d9/device.c;
On around line 198, just before "return hrc;" add this new line:
Now save, then go back to "/wine-1.1.12/" and run "./configure" , then "make", and finally, su to root and run "make install".

This works much faster/better than with Cedega, in fact, it now works just as if it were running under Windows, with all shaders and shadows.

I can confirm that the fix that angelox posted does work on wine 1.1.12 under gentoo.

However when I use the eqclient.ini file posted I am able to log into the game and play but I have all old school models. This is strange since in the file all the luclin modles are enabled. I also started enableing the pixel shaders, vertex shaders and shadows, then logged back in and it kept crashing at the character select. So now I guess its time to hunt down the perfect config.

Did you have this same issue angelox?

I also have a problem with full screen mode. The mouse seems to be stuck in the center of the screen and you can only move it around in a very very small box like area. Mouse works fine in windowed mode.

Should work with yours, I saw where ATI cards give problems , but not NVidia. How about permissions ?
I just granted all permissions to the Titanium directory.
You also have dual core processor and I a don't (could be a factor).
Some people has issues with shadows, so that might be crashing you.

I figured out the old school model issue. I did not have my server running and just logged into a random one that was kurnark only. So they must have been disabled on the server. When I logged into my server I have models using a fresh copy of the posted eqclient.ini file. I enabled sound and tweaked up my settings a bit but have yet to enable pixel shaders. All seems to be working now except full screen with the mouse.

I am also noticing that the mouse pointer location is a bit off in windowed mode. I have to click slightly lower than stuff to actually click it if it is small. Like the boxes in options.

I have the mouse issue too in windowed mode ( I like windowed better) - but works fine full screen.
What took away the "client crashing' for me was the new eqclient.ini I used from the link.

try loading your 'default_old' ui files, see if that might help.

I do not have an issue with the mouse pointer being off if I use a windowed resolution smaller than my screen resolution. IE 1280x960 instead of 1680x1050

Would be nice to get full screen working though.

Update:

I can use 1.1 pixel shaders

if I enable 1.4 or 2.0 I crash at character select

I can enable Use Advanced Lighting but it creates some wierd flashing colors in the background on character select also.

Shadows work, but I always found them to be a resource hog.

As for playablity , minus the above issues and the full screen mouse issue, it works just as good as it did on windows.

I just found out I cannot see spell effects. I made a monk to test and never used spells. But after I made a cleric and shammy bot and noticed that I did not see anything they casted did I realize that spell effects were not showing.

I then created a necro and tried to cast and did not see the effects. Just heard the sound and saw the hp drop on the bat.

I have spell effects set to high density and farthest plus opacity is at 100%.

Do you also have this issue angelox?

I used to have problems like that with Cedega. I have Mandriva 2009 with an NVidia GForce 6100 card - I have Resolution at 1024x768 with desktop and eq client set to 16 million colors.
In my hardware setting for the "Graphic Card options", I had to enable Translucency, Use Hardware accelerated mouse pointer, Enable RENDER acceleration. (wasn't like that by default). I don't know if that helps the game, but you might want to try it out.

EDIT I can get everything to work on mine (all pixel shader versions, lighting, etc.)

When you say graphics card options, I take it you mean a gui interface that configures xorg.conf for you? I do not see any of those settings in nvidia settings but it sounds like some of the settings you would manually add to xorg.conf.

I have RenderAccell set to true
I also have compositing set to enabled

The wierd thing is I can see the spell effect that shows on a character when the level up as well as when I #bot update my bots. Just nothing else.

I guess that's why I chose to stay with Mandrake (Mandriva) all these years; since they were the most 'Windows-like' , it made my migration from Windows to Linux much easier. 'mandriva-drakconf' is a graphical Gui for configuring things like Hardware and a few other things (since I suck at typing, I look for these things anyway).
If you're seeing partial spell effects, than it must be working - maybe you have something unchecked in your client config?
Did you try setting desktop and client to resolution at 1024x768 with desktop and eq client set to 16 million colors?

Angelox do you mind posting your xorg.conf file. Should be somewhere like /etc/X11/xorg.conf

NVidia used to have their own generic Linux driver updates, which worked very well for me (Mandriva didn't always get my video driver right).
They probably still have it.

Not much different than mine:

Wont be able to fart around with this till tonight but maybe I need to try specifying my screen resolution in xorg.conf instead of letting X auto detect it. I see yours is set up that way.

So you do have spell effects then, hmm...

I also see that you have DPMS enabled do you know what that is for?

I use the nvidia-drivers package and it pretty much auto configs xorg.conf for you. I just had to do some tweaking after that.

Might be still a problem with the install package from NVidia, you might want to Google for those missing pixel shader versions, see what pops up.
Also try one more thing, can you replace your /Titanium/RenderEffects directory with a fresh one?

A fresh one meaning from another install of titanium?

Yea, one that you know works - don't delete your old one though, just rename it or something (just incase)

Hmm pixel shaders are working fine in WoW under wine. And all my native games fly, doom3 (Ultra Settings) Quake 4 (Ultra). NWN. In wow I average about 100-250 FPS depending on where I am and that is with all settings maxed out.

Could be something with the drivers I am using, I belive they are marked as unstable in gentoo which probably means they are the nvidia beta drivers.

At this point I am just happy to be able to play on my eqemu server again.

I just duplicated my issues to the T on a different laptop with an ATI Radeon X1600. This is an Gentoo x86 based system with a dual core centrino.

Using a clean, hacked wine 1.1.12 with the hacked .dll file and eqclient posted at wineHQ.

Same issues:

-fullscreen mouse issue
-no spell effects

havent messed with the shaders but I bet I will have more issues on this than on the nvidia platform. The game is playable in a window though. Also note that I had to downgrade my ati drivers to get them to work right with wine. Before the downgrade it would hang up X. Need to use any ATI proprietary drivers before 8.500 to make it work. Currently I am using 8.493.

After further testing on the ati/centrino platform I found the same pixel shader and advanced lighting issues as well.

See if you got this application; 'nvidia-settings' , should be able to just run the command, it usually is in /usr/bin/ I think it comes with the nvidia driver install.

Yah that is pulled in by default when I emerge nvidia-drivers in gentoo. I have gone through all of those settings. Right now everything is on application controlled and pretty much default. I use that when I need to set up a dual monitor. I don't think it is an nvidia issue since I can duplicate all of the same problems on an ATI based machine.

I did however manage to cob up a somewhat backwoods style hack job work around for my full screen issue.

1. Go to desktop background settings and change the background to just black

2. Start the game in windowed mode and center it in the desktop.

My desktop resolution is 1680x1050 and I need to run EQ in a window that is 1600x1024, because if I run it in a 1680x1050 window the wine menu border on top of the window causes the bottom of the window to be cut off and my mouse to click in the wrong place. If I scale the window down to 1600x1024 the window fits perfectly vertically and I have 40 pixels on each side of the window. With the black background it blends with the black border of the screen and looks like I am playing the game in a letterbox. Before my desktop background was too distracting.

This is very tolerable until real fixes can be found.

Like I said its not pretty but it gets the job done. I have a feeling my spell effect problem is related to me not being able to use pixel shaders 1.4 or 2.0

More research and trial and error shall tell.

Hey at least we beat this dead horse till it flipped over a bit!