EQ Live Daybreak and P99
Just in case you missed it, the fact that probably 90% of respondees to questions about the new progression server on EQLive was "make it like Project 1999" may have initiated this?
https://www.everquest.com/news/project-1999-daybreak http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...530.1430339517 |
Hmmm. I'll say it. Because there are "guidelines" and the fact the agreement was entered in only with P99 exclusively (with no mention of EQEMU project as a whole), I do wonder what that means for all other non-P99 EMU's.
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Kind of lame that Rogaine would push for an agreement for his server only instead of entire eqemu project >_<
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We've been talking about it for a while now, just didn't know when it would become public. |
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You never know. I just hope everything is on the up and up. I am just paranoid.
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Well good to hear. Sony was not as receptive.
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I think this is a real good step in the right direction, as EQEmulator doesn't use or distribute any of DBG's code or server software.
It's really a landmark example of progress in the games industry. One can hope other companies follow in their stead in allowing fan based emulation, as long as the fans have recreated everything themselves. |
Can someone cliff what's actually going on? I can't access OPs links at work.
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Regards, Mg |
This is awesome, a great step in the right direction :)
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Interesting. I'm assuming some idea sharing and possible collaboration will result.
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We had no problem running for years and ignored C&D's. SOE's main team has always acknowledged us as that, huge EQ fans that can't let it die, they weren't coming for anyone.
I don't think this is giving the whole story around the table discussions between p99 and daybreak. A more initial 'agreement'/stage/idea involved money going to daybreak. I think that idea fell (I also said it wasn't really feasible) and this is just what he got instead? I am just a bit confused at what everyone thinks this really accomplished for eqemu as a whole versus just P99. No offense, but I think he did this more for P99 (and for his own protection/reasons) than he did it for eqemu. Hidden guidelines not even explained to us other than their expansion release being moved... |
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Id love to see this not for profit documentation. Along with all the rest of these under the table agreements that affect EQEMu as a whole, not just p99. This puts other servers in an odd spot for sure, not knowing what you have agreed to. |
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At the end of the day DBG has no legal grounds against us. |
I have been interested in the EQEmu scene for years, but every time I started to get excited and invest time into it, I found myself scared off by the thought that it could all be wiped away in an instant by some overzealous lawyers who were looking for a cheap excuse to run up a bill for SOE.
This 'agreement' gives me renewed hope, and is causing me to consider investing time and creativity into EQEmu again. I am also eager to see the limitations and agreements between P99 and Daybreak, though. |
open source doesn't get wiped away by overzealous lawyers. It is one thing if a private server owner went in and had an agreement (which I still think sets a bad precedent, as if we need some paper to say yea its ok to emulate you, reverse engineering is NOT ILLEGAL).
You just had the person running not only P99, but EQEmu's servers go into an agreement which might affect EQEmu inadvertently (I don't know since its some sealed guidelines). You think Daybreak games feels any different now if someone put out a H1Z1 emulator that was full blown emulated or EQ Next? That will be getting C&D's right away don't fool yourselves. Corporations change like the wind blows you can't expect this to be a real answer they should have just acknowledged the eqemu community or emulators as a whole (community project). |
I've been on the "in" of these conversations.
All I've got to say is stop worrying. |
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The closest I've seen was Winter's Roar receiving a Cease and Desist order, but even then all they did was relocate their server and they were fine. |
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sorry, I couldn't resist :D |
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Well seriously. Doomsdaying is stupid. We've all known doing this over the years that there is a possibility to be sent to a federal pound me in the ass prison or NOTHING WILL HAPPEN AT ALL. The latter was extreme but still, yall need to stop freaking out. It's been mostly NOTHING AT ALL for what... 8+ years? However many it doesn't matter. The dialogue between us and Daybreak has unveiled that they care about fan based projects and they've had several internal discussions about the emulation of EverQuest in general. Tons of us have been involved in this project for this long because we love the game. Who in their right mind on their side of the fence would seriously shit all over some die-hard fans. Because that's what this community is. We've always been respectful of intellectual property, flown under the radar and have tried to portray a general sense of integrity in all forms. They deserve mad respect. To think otherwise is small thinking. |
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I kid, but seriously, I appreciate you guys entering in to this. It can hopefully only mean good. |
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folow the link on french site speaking about it :
http://www.jeuxonline.info/actualite...t-project-1999 a small step for Daybreak but a hug step for eq fans PS : please change the link of P99 in server listing detail ;) |
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