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Edgar1898 12-10-2003 11:59 AM

Armor Dyes
 
We have come across an issue where we would like to get the users opinion. On Everquest Live whenever you "dye" an armor piece you are actually only dye'ing the slot, not the item itself. Now this is great because you dont have to dye multiple pieces of armor if you want to have the same color for multiple pieces that fit in the same slot. However, this process makes no sense if you think about it. If you "dye" socks from white to green in real life you cant simply put on another white pair of socks and have it magically turned green. Not only does it not make sense, it gives people that like to have multiple colored armors a headache. Since its dying the slot and not the armor, you can not carry multi-colored equipment around with you - you would have to dye it each time. We were thinking about maybe adding a db variable that let the server owner decide which way to go (EQ Lives way, or the correct way), but we would really like to get the users opinions about which one makes more sense and which one they would rather see in the emu...

Please cast your vote

DeletedUser 12-10-2003 12:05 PM

I'm not going to vote and say give them a choice somehow. Have it be player set ingame. Cause it's not fair to just go with majority.

New_Shoes 12-10-2003 12:28 PM

Yeah dudes, democracy is totally unfair. :(

Jeldorith 12-10-2003 12:42 PM

My opinion?

Armor dye is gay. kbai

Shadow-Wolf 12-10-2003 12:51 PM

why are you asking anyways if it will be a variable that the server owners change anyway? i for one(if you guys add the feature)will probly have it so that its like real life.

Edgar1898 12-10-2003 01:06 PM

Well one, because we are curious and two because I said we are thinking about adding a db variable. If the vast majority of the users dont want to use eqlives ghetto system, I'm not going to waste any time making a db variable. Lastly even if the results arent vastly overwhelming and we add in a db variable we will still need a default for it.

Kgaul 12-10-2003 02:03 PM

Personally i like the idea of being able to die items and not the slot. I dont like the idea of being confined to one color...

When the crafted armor came out that you could die it was all the rage for a while. PPl wanted to customise the look of their toon even if the armor was not functional in say a raid event..

I'm all for an option in say the Variables that would give us control as the eather or..


Thanks for the poll guys, you rock!

Kgaul

xXToilet_DuckXx 12-10-2003 02:12 PM

i don't know....

if you sell died (grammer be good???) armor, will it stay the same colour when it is transfered to another player?
ex: if someone dies thier sheild pink, and they sell it to a merchant and/or trade it, will it still be pink? cuz if so, i don't want that sheild....

Scorpious2k 12-10-2003 02:38 PM

I think the way it is now makes much more sense.

hypershadow66 12-10-2003 02:41 PM

My vote
 
Yes, i do think that the server owner should choose, but if i had to pick then i'd say that the dye for every peice of equipment is best.

Terminal Delta 12-10-2003 03:10 PM

Its our world, not Sonys. Lets make the rules.

zerowrath 12-10-2003 04:16 PM

i think it should dye the armor piece itself. because i mean we can summon the stuff to do it, or you can summon your own item. i dont think we will have the problem of actually being stuck with another players choice in color. :wink:

Twig 12-10-2003 11:39 PM

I think EQEmu's way is the best and more realistic, however if you can include a variable in the DB that let the player choose and if it's not a big work then i guess it's the best solution :roll:

Anyway Dyed armor isn't the priority of many EQ players :mrgreen:

Muuss 12-11-2003 12:17 AM

what about allowing players to dye the items by themselves instead of the slots, and add a quest command that could affect the color or reset it; that way, it could provide openings for fun things, like for example, qualifying guildmembers/officiers/leaders by the color of their armor, or such.;. just a thought.

Toofles 12-11-2003 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muuss
what about allowing players to dye the items by themselves instead of the slots, and add a quest command that could affect the color or reset it; that way, it could provide openings for fun things, like for example, qualifying guildmembers/officiers/leaders by the color of their armor, or such.;. just a thought.

Not a bad idea.

haecz 12-11-2003 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muuss
what about allowing players to dye the items by themselves instead of the slots, and add a quest command that could affect the color or reset it; that way, it could provide openings for fun things, like for example, qualifying guildmembers/officiers/leaders by the color of their armor, or such.;. just a thought.

thats actually a really neat idea :wink:

Valhalid 12-12-2003 09:32 AM

Sounds good
 
:?
To answer the initial question, I like the idea of setting the color on the slot.

the quest idea is interesting...

Hardy 12-13-2003 09:38 AM

I like how it is on EQLive. It would get rather expensive having to dye the armor again if you buy a new piece. Sure, its free on eqemu if you can summon, but if you play EQLive, 50pp each time you get a new piece of armor is just insane :P I voted EQLive's way.

Shadow-Wolf 12-13-2003 01:53 PM

50pp? prismatic dyes are only worth like 20p

Hardy 12-14-2003 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow-Wolf
50pp? prismatic dyes are only worth like 20p

*shrugs* On Innoruuk server they sell for 40-50pp in bazaar. Every server has differant prices :roll:

Kolo 12-15-2003 06:39 AM

Well, I know it's possible, but feasible is the question...How's the idea of personal dye. If you dye item #2345 color #ffffff, anytime you used it it would show that color, but when player B buys the armor, it would show whatever color they chose.

This method would impose greater database storage/hits, but how many people are having database query issues with the massive number of players on your server? :?:

SteelDragon 12-15-2003 06:41 AM

Quote:

50pp? prismatic dyes are only worth like 20p
Aye, They were going anywhere between 40-50p on Tholuxe Paells the last time I checked...

Shadow-Wolf 12-15-2003 07:32 AM

well thats the usualy price on my server when i go to the bazaar, sometimes if somones in a hurry to get rid of something i can get em for like 5 to 10 pp

kai_shadowbane 12-16-2003 08:38 AM

on eqlive they cost about 25-35pp to make, and sell for btwn 40-50
I'm gonna go ahead and vote on either the flag to make it board owner's choice or eqlive, since if someone DOES run a legit server, dying each piece of armor would get costly and fast. Not to mention, you like the color you dyed it to, so why the heck would you not want to transfer it to a new piece when you get it. I mean we all hate sitting there trying to get cash in eqlive as it is, why make it like that in eqemu?

[EDITED:]
That, and if someone dyes a piece of armor that's an awesome piece of armor, you don't want to have to get stuck with their color choice selections if you buy it from them. Personally, when I made 30 in eqlive, I treated myself to coloring all my armor, the other way would be like treating myself to flushing pp down the toilet, since the armor wouldn't last long enough. Not to mention that, if I remember right, not all armor was able to be dyed.

nynnenFV 12-19-2003 04:16 PM

Off topic
 
Quote:

My opinion?

Armor dye is gay. kbai
Now i don't understand how armor dye is grey...Is it masculine in another language and it likes other masculin noun? its much like another populated phrase
Quote:

That is so Jewish
I just don't get it! *boggles*

haecz 12-20-2003 12:20 AM

nynn, bumping?
this thread is closed along time ago, since the question
of the thread has already been added to the game...


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