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DeletedUser 06-22-2003 09:14 AM

Patcher going down for a long time
 
Im taking the patch server down until we redo the system. I am tired of it being leached by everyone (Hackersquest & our users) that have not helped pay for the bandwidth for it.

The new system will have a username/password and a log of everything you download, so if we ever get sued by Sony, I have all these nice logs of people that they can ban accounts on.

If you do have problems with this, why dont you do what we have always said, and KEEP ANOTHER EQ FOLDER.

peder 06-22-2003 09:36 AM

how long will the patcher be down???

Barench 06-22-2003 10:04 AM

We understand your problem. My question is, I am setting up a new computer, how do I patch EverQuest without your server so that I can sign into eqemu servers?

cannonalldex 06-22-2003 10:06 AM

so what now? can i host a server for this to work? or is there another server that offers hosing? im willing to pay, but i thought that was the whole idea of eqemu, so we didnt have to pay to play? i have a couple comps i am willing to share, i just need help setting them up. im new to all this, but i know i have spent three days putting up a server and i cant get in to play :(

Zern 06-22-2003 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barench
We understand your problem. My question is, I am setting up a new computer, how do I patch EverQuest without your server so that I can sign into eqemu servers?


Basically you're fuc ked, sorry for the language. Or if you are dying to play EQ on the new computer... you can simply set up a network and copy the eq folder from one to the other.


:lol: bit ironic but lol nm for now.

cannonalldex 06-22-2003 10:21 AM

i have a server setup on the emu atm, how would i go about changing and what files would i change to make it playable from my own computer network? please, i am ambitious about creating my new world. any help would be appreciated. thank you.

i already have eq on both comps and a network is set up.

TheFunkyBox 06-22-2003 10:23 AM

Just wondering, but what downloads will you keep track of? Every download we make? or just on your site?

Also, could you please give a guess on how long this will take
(Days?, Months?)


Thank you, :)

krusty 06-22-2003 10:24 AM

get on
 
if you still want to get on EQEmu read my post in the EQEmu forum named "patcher fix"

it will tell you how to get on without the patcher. although it wont help you if you have repatcher EQLive, if thats the case you have to wait till the patcher comes back up

06-22-2003 10:28 AM

Hogie,

I would like to help you. Please... If you need some aid, you may count with me. Congratulations for this fantastic work. :wink:

Ravengar (eprp@brflash.com.br)

Kgaul 06-22-2003 11:01 AM

I would also Hoogie...
for any help at all please contact me at Tulox@hushmail.com


Rae...

cannonalldex 06-22-2003 11:04 AM

Krusty posted this on other thread, but this seems to be the place for the answer.

provided you have your eqemu Everquest Folder where this command is.

since the patcher is down there is another way of getting on.

steps:

1.go to your start menu
2.click run
3. type this:
"C:\Program Files\Everquest\eqgame.exe" patchme

include parenthesis's and the patchme at the end type it exactly as it is

this will only work if you patched the EQEmu Patcher and didnt unpatch it. dont repatch EQLive or you wont be able to get back on until the EQEmu patcher is back up

DeletedUser 06-22-2003 11:05 AM

It would help if you guys would make 2 copies of your everquest folder. Drives are cheap, bandwidth is not!

Barench 06-22-2003 11:24 AM

here is a batch file that will work:

@echo off
cls
c:
cd\progra~1\everqu~1
eqgame.exe patchme

now for us who went to live eq when the server went down and now have a way not to use the patcher in the future... could we please have the patch server up for atleast a few hours to fix our systems?

kit619 06-22-2003 11:35 AM

i hope it all works out.. really enjoyed playin on this.. hope it comes bak :cry:

cannonalldex 06-22-2003 11:42 AM

I aplogize for my inexperience at this, but i had no idea you could connect to the server without using the patcher, i have two folders, one i use for emu and one for real eq. i assumed you had to run the patcher every time you connected. you may want to make a post available that is EASY to find, (like on your front page) i can tell by looking at all the posts about the patcher no being up that many people are like myself and probably run the patcher every time they would connect. sry, and also if there is anything i can do to help you all out feel free to drop me an email at cannon-emu@cfl.rr.com. good luck and best wishes.

TheFunkyBox 06-22-2003 11:55 AM

The only way I could play EQEMU was thru the patcher, and now that its not working I cant play.

Ive tried playing EQEMU thru the Start menu, and selecting "Run"

But I get error 1017! ARGH

I have EQEMU installed here
C:/EQEMu

I have tried the following codes in "Run" and they dont work

"C:\EqEmu" eqgame.exe patchme

"C:\EqEmu\eqgame" patchme

"C:\EqEmu\eqgame"

"C:\EqEmu\eqgame.exe"


I love EQEMU, its almost just like the real thing, plus, I save 13 dollars a month!

Please help me. :cry:

cannonalldex 06-22-2003 12:12 PM

I have EQEMU installed here
C:/EQEMu


is this where your eqgame.exe is?

theobeo92 06-22-2003 12:24 PM

This is some extreme BS
 
This is some extreme BS, I know we don't pay, but the reason we came over to this thing is to NOT pay, now THEY expect us to pay??!!!??? That is some weak-as* bs, You didn't ask us to pay in the first place, and now you are going to shut down until we do??!!??? ALSO, you have to be such pessamists, keeping a log of stuff so you can give a list! Jesus! You created it, take responsibilitys, dont scape-goat your way out of this, I mean come on! Face the music! BTW, FYI, you haven't been sued yet, so don't go and be a fuc*ing jackas*, for gods sake, give the people what they want!!!

:x :x :x :x :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :x :x :x

Barench 06-22-2003 12:45 PM

I think theobeo92 should take a chill pill.

First this site is not a money maker and they can do with it as they like.... it is their right.

I would love nothing more than to get back in, I have no problem with them logging my email address... think about it, to use this system you already have given your email and had it verified to get a log in name and password. I log could have already existed.

I would like to know what files do get patched. With that information I could pull out some old cd's and try to get back on without the patch server.

daeken_bb 06-22-2003 12:45 PM

Do you expect Hogie to pay for the bandwidth out of pocket? Welcome to the opensource community, no one person should take on all of the responsibility of the project...

geerux 06-22-2003 12:47 PM

Re: This is some extreme BS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theobeo92
This is some extreme BS, I know we don't pay, but the reason we came over to this thing is to NOT pay, now THEY expect us to pay??!!!??? That is some weak-as* bs, You didn't ask us to pay in the first place, and now you are going to shut down until we do??!!??? ALSO, you have to be such pessamists, keeping a log of stuff so you can give a list! Jesus! You created it, take responsibilitys, dont scape-goat your way out of this, I mean come on! Face the music! BTW, FYI, you haven't been sued yet, so don't go and be a fuc*ing jackas*, for gods sake, give the people what they want!!!

:x :x :x :x :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :x :x :x

You're a moron. The people who develop and run EQEmu owe you nothing, stop acting like you're getting ripped off. You're getting exactly what you pay for.

If you had a reading comprehension level above that of a 6th grader, you would've realized they likely aren't going to require everyone to pay to use the patcher. They took it down so they could implement an account system so people have to sign up to use it (just like they do to use EQEmu), so they can have better control over who leeches files from them, whether it be someone from another emulator project or any of the countless morons who run EQLive and EQEmu out of the same folder so they have to keep re-downloading the files every time they want to play on EQEmu, which sucks up the bandwidth you're not paying them to use.

You give them nothing in return for all the hard work and free services they provide for you. Unless you want to host a patch server for them (no, your DSL or cable modem won't cut it) or develop your own EQ emulator, you're in no place to curse them out. Grow up.

babar101967 06-22-2003 01:11 PM

patch server
 
I only have one question.......and that is when will it be back or where can we download the files from.......as you can see I have not been here long but do like it......am helping with a server and need to be able to get on it to test various things that we have been fixing that others seem to be having issues with.......just got all the expansions today and installed them then patched with eqlive now go to the eqemu patcher and its down so I cannot logon if I wanted to.......yes I did make a copry of my eq folder but something has changed because it still does not work.....so once again when will it be up......some sort of timeframe would be nice....otherwise I just might make an emulator.......because it looks alot like ethernalquest all in all

daeken_bb 06-22-2003 01:13 PM

If you can't figure out how to patch eq for yourself... i _highly_ doubt you'll be able to write your own emu ;)

/me snickers and walks away...

Hobbes281 06-22-2003 01:46 PM

nooooooooo i love EQemu...somebody said "free eq" and i about shat myself, apart from the 3 or 4 times i creamed my pants...and then to have it ripped away... i agree with babar, at least give us a timeframe. i realize you owe us nothing, and indeed provide a great service with no compensation..but please, at least give your fans a time to work with? I REALLY just want to play again, because im leaving on the 28th (today is the 22 :cry: ) and i wont be back for a month and a week..... cmon, my bday is the 25th, maybe bring it back for a day? an hour? a half a min? i love you.... :( :( :( :(


oh and that guy that was bitching at you has the brain power of a bowl of tapioca, and i ate him for you :evil:

x-scythe 06-22-2003 02:31 PM

screwed
 
if you patched EQLive after the patcher went down you have to wait until the patcher comes back unless you find another way to patch your files. there are other ways you can patch it. i think somewhere on the hackersquest forums they have another way to patche your files but im not sure of the exact location, you'l have to find that yourself.

x-scythe aka krusty

x-scythe 06-22-2003 02:32 PM

screwed
 
if you patched EQLive after the patcher went down you have to wait until the patcher comes back unless you find another way to patch your files. there are other ways you can patch it. i think somewhere on the hackersquest forums they have another way to patche your files but im not sure of the exact location, you'l have to find that yourself.

x-scythe aka krusty

x-scythe 06-22-2003 02:46 PM

krusty
 
its me krusty on my main account :D

another way of getting on without patching is through EQW.

once again this wont work if you patched EQLive and have no other way of getting EQEmu patched without the EQEmu patcher(like a back up file or somethin). just uncheck all the box's on the EQW main start up and set your EQ host path and it should work

family 06-22-2003 02:55 PM

CANT PLAY ANYMORE
 
Now that the patcher is down I cant play EQ at all . The EQEmu patcher is the only thing Ive been playing on my comp so I'll be waiting for it to come back up . I dont have a regular acount for EQ so Im stuck waiting . I couldnt even comprehend the idea of making a server that a friend made and let me be a server op . I was just learning how far down the "rabbit hole"went . You couldnt even fathom my curiousity . I still have so many questions
that need to be answered that if I start I wont stop. Ive just gotten to use the patcher at my house and then I cant even use it
Ijust really hope it comes back up soon.

x-scythe 06-22-2003 03:01 PM

if
 
if you didnt patch EQLive you can still play, follow my directions earlier in the thread

bj67479 06-22-2003 03:22 PM

you know I enjoyed EqEmu because I could come on here and play on a non-legit server and test out items and go to area's and test them out...I found this very helpful before questing or purchasing items and hunting in certain area's....I realize that EqEmu was not as perfect as EqLive, but it had exceptional quality in my opinion...and whoever disagrees does not realize how lucky they are to have EqEmu avialible to them....let alone how much trouble people such as Hogie have gone to, to bring forth an excellent creation that shadows EqLive...My opinion is EqLive is the best Online Game around and the second best online game is EqEmu...hopefully the EqEmu staff can overlook the sorry ass bastards that dont know the first thing about programing a game such as EqEmu and either bring back version 4.4 or comeback with a new kick ass system....either way I will still look at EqEmu as a great experience for learning more about Everquest zones and items and mob toughness....You guys are frickin awesome in my book :P :P :P

Talon0202 06-22-2003 05:57 PM

Eheh...did a lil research, and made a guide for yall!
 
This is for everyone complaining about not being able to get on eqemu because all they have is the eqlive current files....with this, you will be able to play now!

1. Patch EverQuest to the latest patch.

2. Copy the complete EverQuest Directory (C:\Program Files\Everquest\ or whatever filename you have it under) into a new directory. Rename that Directory to "EqEmu" (so it's C:\EqEmu)

3. Go to: http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...lease_id=98770, Scroll down until you see EthernalQuestEQ (win32) and download Emu_0_6_6a.zip.

4. Unzip the contents of the EthernalQuest Emulator file while retaining the directories (the last part is important and will give the emulator it's own directory and placeall files in the correct sub-directories) with destination: C:\.

If you use "Winzip", that specific funtion is default off. You can switch it on by thicking the small box: "Use Folder Names".

5. Notice the directory C:\EthernalQuest that has been created

6. Open C:\EthernalQuest from the step above and paste all of it

Talon0202 06-22-2003 06:34 PM

:-(
 
Hey, i dunno if that works or not actually....i think it does, but i get 1017 error....well, you guys try and if it dont work, well, sorry i tried my best

Barench 06-22-2003 06:38 PM

I tried Talon0202's solution (he left out that you have to edit the 2nd line of emuconfig.dat to show the correct path of your everquest files).

It does not work. The problem with EthernalQuest or HackerQuest (both of these sites host the ethernalquest files) is that they rely on EQemu's registration server to update their files.

EthernalQuest Host.ini
[Registration Servers]
{
"localhost:5999"
}
[Login Servers]
{
"localhost:15900"
"localhost:15901"
"localhost:15902"
"localhost:15903"
}

Please note that the registration server is the same as EQemu's.
[Registration Servers]
{
"eqlogin1.eqemu.net:5999"
}
[Login Servers]
{
"eqlogin1.eqemu.net:5999"
"eqlogin2.eqemu.net:5999"

Appreciate you trying to help... but if your files, like mine are not patched, then you will need to wait for EQemu to find a way for others not to take advantage of their bandwidth :(

Muuss 06-23-2003 12:29 AM

I totally approve Hogie's choice (even if nobody cares of what i approve or not, of course, but i said it!). at least half of the content of that forum comes from guys who don't read what's written and take it easy by asking all the time the same things... Nobody here is in position of asking or claiming anything about EqEmu, that soft is amazing, developpers do a great great job, support prolly almost all the costs, for the bandwith, the servers and so on... well, in french, i would say : "Chapeau bas, Messieurs !"

And for the patch server, it should only affect those who... didnt followed the instructions because they dont want to read!!! so... well... how to say... next time, you ll pay attention to what you do...

Good decision, Hogie.

Aspirax 06-23-2003 01:10 AM

"Im taking the patch server down until we redo the system. I am tired of it being leached by everyone (Hackersquest & our users) that have not helped pay for the bandwidth for it."

Is paying a requirement? Isn't this free software?
I'm going to make the assumption that you've under-estimated your needs. If you're going to run a project of this size with this many followers you'd better be prepared. I can see that you aren't.

themanslayer 06-23-2003 01:16 AM

heh i got 3 EQ folders...... 1 for eqlive.... 1 for testing out stuff.... like making it play surfacing instead of that old annoying classical crap....... and one for EMU......... yes you may think i have too much time on my hands.... and i do heh later

Muuss 06-23-2003 01:19 AM

For Aspirax, short resume of the post :

People who play both EqEmu and Eqlive, without duplicating the folders where they store the game, have to patch their game each time they swap from one to the other one. Doing this, they use way to much of the bandwith Hogie's paying for. Hogie says that the donations are welcome but never said that there will be a fee for using the patcher. The dev team is working on a login engine that will keep traces of what players download. So, they will see who doesn't follow the instructions and repatch all the time their files, and will take actions against them.

06-23-2003 01:53 AM

I think Muuss is right. This changes are important to keep EQEmu server working well. Im not a regular EQLive player, but if you use both servers... Please... MAKE A BACKUP!!! :twisted:

Barench 06-23-2003 04:59 AM

Thanks Talon0202!!!! Your post on the fixeq is a god send.

As for Muuss.... Please give us more credit than you do. I found this site the day before the patcher went down. It took 6 hours to patch everquest and expansion (yes I had one of the first versions). The next day I got on and played till I got booted. Being able to run without the patcher was unclear to me.

People make mistakes... and are human, please give them some credit.

I still agree that this is Hogie's baby and he has the right to do what he likes. Bandwidth stealing is an issue, and he has the right to address it. Even so HE never called people dummies for not understanding the patch program - follow his lead.

Muuss 06-23-2003 05:05 AM

Ya, you're right about more credit for people who are rookies with that kind of projects. Tho, the major fact is that most of them dont read the instructions and just click everything everywhere without trying to undestand... gniiiii, that Windows (tm)(c) culture makes me becoming mad ! :D

Perhaps some people should work on a better documentation (easy to say, of course, more hard to do, or to get involved in) and provide more clear technical details for the less experimented users...


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