Guildwars Ideas
 

I have been brainstorming GuildWars and I am curious if anyone has any ideas/suggestions/comments. I enjoy getting community input as it sometimes brings up things that I overlook :) So post replies!!

(Bout' time)

1. An Economy
2. Quests. Epics, Armor, Spells, you name it, you quest it.
3. More encentive to having captured citys
4. PvP reward system
5. Kunark-possibly LDoN
6. Ring type mob encounters (Pathing would be cool too.)
7. GM events

hmm, think I'll mention more when it comes to mind.

Did I mention quests?
: P

The only beef I had with guildwars were a) being unable to zone properly, and b) getting LD so often

everything was great the way it was by my standards...but im not a big fan of quests

I'm working on Raevenloft server but one of the things thats the driving force of our server is True Risk v reward... My concern is spending an hour fighting your way to level 47 mob x only to get a 13% haste no ac sash (doh, gave it away)...

Kgaul

Big statue of Merth in the middle of the nexus, with a bunch of female woodelf NPC admirers surrounding it.

I think personally that the following is all that is really needed:

- Well screened serious staff... (therefore creating the opportunity for quests or other support for the player base, and a stronger community all in one)

- Stabliity and Scale. The login/zone bug was a killer before on GW... But without that the server was top notch in my oppinion... So stability is key... Also scale would be nice... If the server can handle a larger crowd at once it will build stronger community, and help the in game economy more...

- More incentive for Guild based play, Teamplay, and City to City warfare... Incentives for capturing cities, and more refined PVP rules should help this... In a smaller community that the EMU has compared to Live, building a Strong and Enthusiastic Team based mentality in the community, so that everyone works together is very important... If more people work together, it will be an all around more fun experience for everyone...

- Pathing and Roaming mobs... :) that is the main thing that I think everybody wants... :)

- More zones would be nice... but not a big priority... I think that only "classic" eq is great... I would like more zones to roam, but too many zones can spread people out too much... (however it may not, people will hang around where other people are, so they may not spread out... and then they would have the option at least to go there if they want)... I don't know... If I had to choose between having more zones, or having the classic zones only but having them very robust, full of quests, and full of content... I would choose completeness and content over more zones anyday :)

There is my ideas...

Merth beat me to it :P

Balanced epics :)
Some had just too powerful effects and others had an effect that couldnt be even used in battle

As to epics. somone gave outside access to my baby (the guildwars db) to somone that should never have had access to it and they made the epics...they are way gone. and im making much better ones.

allied epics
 

Create a way for allied guilds to get their epics. Under the old system the only other way to get a given medallion for your epic was to take the town - if you're allied with a guild that presents a particular problem. My idea on the old guildwars was to create a quest where you could turn in 3-4 OTHER medallions to any friendly town leader and receive his medallion in exchange.

Aside from that the only bad thing about GW were the planes - you could walk into Fear, but if you were in a class that needed gear from Hate it was a huge ordeal. Additionally, whether the GMs knew it or not, the second level of Hate was from the post Plane of Growth era, and contained gear appropriate to that time frame. IE, there were pieces of Ranger gear equivalent to the gear coming out of Plane of Growth, placed there to placate those who weren't represented in Tunare's realm.

It wouldn't be a bad idea to fill the entire second floor of hate (or some other zone) with a global loot table that can drop any piece of armor for any class, or perhaps a monster could rarely drop a piece of armor for any class for a particular slot.

As a side note, I'm personally not in favor of adding Kunark zones, I liked the feel of the old, smaller classic only world. There were unused zones, however, that could be tuned to replace Kunark's higher level content. A particularly good idea would be some "ring" events for all levels. It's a toss-up about LDON style encounters..they might not be a bad way to provide content for the higher levels on the server, and could be a lot of fun. However, the very idea of a dungeon unaccessible while you're in it kind of defeats the idea of guildwars.

Glad to see you revitalized, Image, I just hope you take on more help so you don't get as burnt out this time around =0

HOLY SHIZZLE MY NIZZLEE!!!!11!11!!(one)(one)!!1!
Praise the lord, shall thou be so true?

Has image really come back to bring back the original guildwars from what it once was, to what it will once be!

(Okay.. i'll shut up).

Guildwars needs to sound exactly like it sounds. Multiple guilds having a war.

How do you achieve war? Look at the basics. You need to start with the guild system. It's all about guilds, how would one go about creating a guild, improving a guild, and what would make guilds more powerful then others (without going overboard).

As guilds are the main topic, it needs a powerful guild system.

There should be a lot of quests, not just user quests, but guild quests. This way guilds will work together. Maybe have it so when a guild is first created, before they can buy guards and stuff (if you're putting that in from the older version) they should have to do 5 simple tasks. Each task will teach you about what you need to learn about running a guild. (*NOTE* That the guildleader MUST be present at the time). Every task will reward you with a low level guard and work your way up. Maybe not guard, but something.

Towns are empty. You build a town from the ground up. Merchants, Guards, Bankers. Nothing should be present once the town becomes available to a new guild, or at start.

Okay, now that we got that out of the way (sort've). Time to pickup on Rushalicious :D

Guildwars. Wars? To me that brings Guild out of the picture and Wars into it. Powerful Guild system and Powerful War system. There should be ways to have more then just a normal war. Why would they want war in the first place?

Rewards! Rewards must be rewarding enough, but only to the circumstance of the achievement level. If it's too easy to get one of the best blades (say epic for instance), whats the point of it. You don't want it to be EQLive hard, but you shouldn't be able to fish for it.

Epic *
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Weapons, Spells, and Armor
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Find some people to make items. An epic has to be top of the line, so why stop it at just weapon? Make it so they spend weeks and weeks trying to maximum their strength and power!

"Ring type mob encounters (Pathing would be cool too.)"

I agree with this to a certain extent. Pathing would rock, but most of us know that it is a hard thing to do. Ring type mob encounters would definately add to the guild/groupage of the server instead of everyone soloing.

GM events

Again, to a certain extent. I would much rather a dev be working on the game rather then throwing a GM event everyday. Not that they shouldn't have fun, but if it's going to be guildwars, I think it should focus on GW. Not GM events.

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Captured towns are pointless if they are all the same. Maybe make it so the more towns you have the more advantage you get. Or maybe like DAOC where you gain extra stats/abilities when you have more captured towns.

As for prayers. I think worshippers should be able to be placed (not literally, but a city number). The more you pray to a god of that race, the more ability you get from that god.

Dark Elf god? Maybe innoruuk will give you perma infravision while you keep worshipping him. But by worshipping him, maybe he gets stronger. (This would take time to create, but it would definately be cool to have). It would make some guilds stronger then others, but they'll realize that they have to work together to take down the stronger guilds.

Last but not least. WORKING BARDS!11!!!1!!1! :P
With my bards, I will be happy as a clown!

sweet, cant wait :mrgreen:

Make pvp rewarding in character progression outside of exp. How do you do this? Simple, set up a reward system much like you see in LDoN where players also earn points for pvping, and can purchase high quality items that are exclusively available to those that choose to pvp.

Get some real GMs and not assholes like Delvahart.

Delva has been gone for almost 6 months now : P

Well I kind of came in late to Guildwars...but it seemed GM's would give items out to their PvP character, which would make it WAY uneven...I liked how the J-boots dropped of Najena, As for epics i like them mostly, Im not sure if you are adding iksar/froglok/vahsir and beastlords, but i think id like to see it, maybe start iksar with evil towns(dark elf), frogloks(dwarfs) with neturals, and vah shir with goodies(high elfs)...Just a thought though. Id like to see the levels to be the same as before, the REAL reason i came to Guildwars for life was becuz i didnt have to spend 15 hours to gain a gold of xp...I really hope you guys dont make it like EqLive

Any addition of Vah Shir and I will kill you.


IRL.



I mean it.

Sorry I didnt read any of the other posts so I dont know if this is repeating shit. Im just gonna steal some ideas from majormud.

1) GANG WARS - make it official, if you see a guy from an enemy guild you gotta kill him or do something to him, we arent playing paddy cake here

2) I gotta go now, but ill be back hehe.

i never played on GW cause i didnt like how the old models were used, now i understand that if you add more zones you get more spread, but what about enabling new models but close old zones? other than that i would love to play on any pvp server

You didn't play on GW because the old models were used instead of the new ones...?


All I have to say is ..wow..

It sounds to me like someone's never capped at level 50 :roll:

Leveling needs to be made harder.

Instead of one day to get 50, maybe 2-3 days.

Lvling
 

Leveling from 2-3 days is still pretty fast though :P but then again this is EQ Emu expect almost instant results

later

Honestly I loved leveling faster, It makes more time for Raiding and of course PvPing, not everyone has 6-8 hours to blow on a game to get a level or 2 ...thank god i do though :P...but im speakin for other people i think when i say that about leveling

If I remember, most people leveled quickly due to the regen bug - a lot of classes would still level fairly slowly. Though you will have the classes like necros that will level very fast even without the regen bug.

I tried a necro on GW and had a hard time of it since Fear didnt work at all.

A FRIGGIN ECONOMY definately...huge quest DB, more zones...more character developement too would be lovely...so u arent stuck at 50...60 with AA's would be extremely fun....those would make a fantastic server!!

Get functional Trade skill recipes and have the high end character made items be sweet. that will help with the economy, and give people somthing else to spend there time on 8)

If you're going to make leveling a day or two, then make something take long.

I don't want 'instant effects'. I don't feel like getting max levels, max aas, every spell, and the best items in the first few weeks.

If there are going to be epics, then whoever makes them read the definition of epic. None of the EQ/DAOC crap where the epics are mid content shit.

This gives me an idea. How about make an epic a long term quest. Say there are 20 different epic parts.

Everyone part you get a new epic. The more you do, the better it gets.. but the more you do, the harder it gets.

If not, make the epics take like 2-3 weeks to do. I mean, its an epic after all.

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I agree 100% on tradeskills. Would be nice to work for a skill, and get something out of it.

I'll add a bit about CS that I had a unique view on...

The main problem with CS on GW was that me, as a gm, would log on, and pull up the queue for petitions, and see 50 petitions there. That alone was a hard thing to deal with. Two reasons there were so many petitions waiting...
1.) People petitioned mutiple times about the same thing. I'd see people who day after day would petition about spells not being in, or they were stuck somewhere. It's not a problem that they petitioned this, but it is a problem when there are 25 petitions waiting, and 15 are from 1 person.
2.) The sheer work involved in giving any kind of CS to a server as popular as GW was more than 4 or 5 people could handle. When only 2-3 people were really active as GM's, it put major stress on us to get some things done.

So, from a CS standpoint, you're going to need 6-8 people who aren't going to just play on the server using their GM powers. The petition queue needs to be limited to 1 petition per person (dunno if this has been fixed yet or not). Also, GM's who aren't ServerOps should not have powers to summon items, set skills, or level. They're not there to be powerful gods, they're there to manage the server and keep people in line. A forum should be set up for the CS staff, and require GM's to post on it regularly (once a day, or every time they log off) so that they can keep themselves focused, and so that other GM's will be able to see what was happening while they were away. Also, other GM's would know if disciplinary action had been taken with someone to keep people from "bouncing" from GM to GM abusing bugs and getting warnings.

One more thing, the problem many players had with us GM's was the rogue actions of some bitter/demented GM. I know noone likes to be around negativity while they're playing a game. Keep the separation between players and GM's, and I think everyone will have alot more fun.

-edit-

OK, I lied, one more thing. One big problem I had when dealing with things on the server was that I probably spoke a serverop 2 or 3 times total while I was GM'ing there. The forum would be a good place for the person/people actually working on the db to see what is working badly, and what isn't working at all.

On the petitions:
A lot of the petitions I read and DELETED were as follows:

1) A petition saying that you have a question, and not stating the question.
2) A petition involving a problem with a character, without listing the character name or the specific problem(ie. "My char is stuck in oasis")
3) Petition stating that someone still has a problem, like "I petitioned an hour ago and my char is still stuck".. Great! I'll get right on that, since I have absolutely no information toat will help me resolve it!
4) Guild petitions without listing the leaders name, guildname and other information (No longer applicable)

So here is a guide for anyone making a petition, on any server.

1) Include all the information that is needed. This might involve the character name, a zone to be moved to, whatever.
2) Be concise, yet follow 1
3) Do NOT petition the same problem again for at least 24 hours
4) Please make a decent attempt at spelling and grammar. I certainly don't care that you typed 10 less letters with something cryptic when I cannot understand it anyways.
5) Be PATIENT, even if there is a GM or SOP on they could be busy.
6) Do NOT /t the GMs when a petition is what you want. I don't know how many time I got /t'd 'hi', exchange a few tells and BOOM there goes the question or problem that should have been /petitioned

Hopefully we will have a better petition answering system in place as well
On GM's cheating:
I cannot say it did not happen, but it should not have. I knew several GMs that had a completely seperate account for their real characters that had NO GM powers at all and played completely legit. ESPECIALLY if they were PVPing they were most likely legit. If you saw one of my chars, it probably wasn't legit. Then again, I never played on Guildwars. I was either testing code or gathering information. I will say this again, as I think it bears repeating. None of the GMs should have had any levels or items nonlegitly on their normal characters. This is certainly the case with anyone involved in the PVP.

Thats all I can think of at the moment, I might edit and amend the petition information if I remember any other petition pet peeves.

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Any GM events should probably be planned out and announced in advance at least a couple of days. As before, talk to an SOP about the items or whatever to be given out.

Owning a town should probably provide some extra benefit, maybe an exp or drop bonus. There could also be a bonus for owning neighbooring towns, say all of odus.. or odus + qeynos.. whatever

The guild creation is all ready being resolved.

RE:
 

lol has he heard of 5.0? has he heard of hogie and the problem heheh

Don't worry I have fixed it so its 1 petition / account and you have the ability to /deletepetition and send another petition in...

GM Events are now automated by the server itself, there will be a rare occassion when an actual GM will have to be in the event.

That's cool.

My simple thought on GM Events are that:
1) They should involve some sort of point. Not just a dragon popping out of nowhere and is sitting in the Arena.

2) Items should be good enough to be a GM Event reward, but not something like 50 damage 20 delay UBER SLAYER SWORD OF UBERGEEKNESS :D

3) I don't think there should be an event every few days. I used to love events, but when on servers like Forever-Hacking they happened every day.. it just got retarded.

Reply Thing
 

Wow, I havent posted here... maybe ever? :roll: Well anyway, I'm not sure if I can still even play (EQ patcher broken?), but I have some ideas.

1) When I was a GM, there were too many other GMs that were, ... well, whats the polite word for evil corrupt and totally twisted? When I tried to talk to another GM about it, they told me that it happens all the time...

2) I dont know what happened, but I got the impression that Image left and thats when I stopped getting on, so... just stay...

3) Fix all the bugs (Obviously)

4) Make epics harder, or upgradeable?

5) I liked the city system but there are a lot of better ideas than I cloud thing of to change them.

Well nothing to brilliant, but overall I agree with a lot of these posts.

Master Elrath

Im back.

2) Once REAL items come into the game (last time i played the armor was real shitty), make an item drop on pvp, if you can. Im just spittin out ideas here.

3) Definately find a way to reward a kill, but maybe not being killed (not as harsh, i had some people camping my respawn point which was homo)

4)oh yeah, dont fuckin exploit bugs. thats one thing that some people did that really pissed me off. just because its there doesnt mean you have to use it, jesus christ show some self control and prove that you arent a little "noob" (i use it because its oh so familiar aorund here, i hate that word though).

5) Ill be back again.

GuildWars is being totally redesigned (this includes the city system), I assure you that you will all be very impressed ;)

Just as long as the captured cities don't become 10,000 hidden guards lvl 50. It was quite depressing seeing 100 guards guarding qeynos for over 2 weeks while people were trying to earn their epics.

Keep the guard on the city simple, but not so easy that 1 person can solo a town.

Epics are earned in a different manner now plus the costs will be higher, you will get rewards, restrictions on placing guards and such are still tbd (there will be a spacing check though).

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AA's , Tradeskill armor, and mage epic pets with actual resist :P