Mozilla vs IE - topic split from WOW = World of Warcraft
 

You all should really use firefox.. man.. IE Sucks ASS..

as long as you know how to not fuck your ie up firefox is useless

IE > Any other browser

Reason: Default browser of all computers. If you pretend another one is better, then u have a messed up computer.

Can we ban him again for being retarded?

whys it so retarded, hes right, ie is default and you cant uninstall it. firefox is nothing but a waste of space for people who are to lazy/stupid to not take care of their computer.

I take care of my computer, and I dont use IE.

Also, thats an opinion, so he cant be right or wrong. lolgj~

one of the browsers is superior, no opinion involved. ie is faster, supports more html, etc etc

Ok, fine.

As we see in the first bolding, thats an opinion. Its better, thats that hes saying. Next paragraph is a bit different, but that first bolding is his opinion.

In the second bolding, we see some truth. I dont know about mac's though. But theres a bit of "rightness".

In the 3rd bolding we see him saying that pretending another is better means our computer is messed up. Well thats a great idea Mr.Cleo, but I dont think so. I dont use IE, yet my computer is fine.

First bolding in this, we see your opinion of him being right. Opinions are fun, arent they?

In the second bolding, we see that you say you cant uninstall. Well thats fine, it dosent make it best.

In the third bolding, we see you calling us stupid and lazy. Theres absolutely no proof in this. You think its a waste of space, DING DING! Opinion!

Those may be valid, that dosent make it better. The better of the two is someones opinion. They like one better, to the mits better.

Thanks buddy, shut the fuck up.

They both support the same ammount of html, if it doesn't look right in a browser other than IE, then the CODING is wrong, IE doesn't care if it's coded wrong, it does it anyways, Firefox, Mozilla, Opera etc. do what the code says.... well, there are some exceptions in things OUTSIDE of html (flash, java, php, etc. etc.)

Multiple reasons I find Firefox better than IE:
1) TABS
2) Not as many holes
3) Plug-ins, lots and lots of them..
4) Did I say tabs?
5) A not-lame google search bar
6) It's not supported by microsoft, and to be cool, I can't like anything from microsoft
7) And tabs.. I love tabs..

Two reasons I find IE better than Firefox:
1) It's required for "My Computer" and connecting to networked computers and such, which firefox can't do to well.
2) Every single website out there runs in it *near* flawlessly.

The only reason I prefer IE is because one time I tried Firefox (not recently so it may be changed) and when I closed the main window, all of my downloads closed. That was quite annoying and reason enough for me to say the hell with it. Although I don't like it, that doesn't mean that IE > Firefox. I'm sure it's got some bonuses but the benefits of either apply to different groups of people. So I guess I'm just saying stop forcing opinions on other people.


Make Love Not War...

This is true, but the trick is to open the download manager (ctrl+j) before closing the browser.. then it stays running.

Let's end this ignorance now, MysticalNinjaJesus and Spike.

You boys brought knives to my gunfight. Prepare the cannons!

All Linux and Mac users don't have messed up computers. You have messed up logic... Think before you make claims. Not everyone uses what you use.

Firefox has MANY features that IE can't even try to have. Having a cool "addon" program that blocks popups ineffectively is not that same as having IE block them by itself. Firefox downloaded is also only about 5 Megs. Most people keep an mp3 there in its place. Don't talk to me about wasted space if you have a single mp3 that you dislike enough to not listen to wasting away on the computer. It's not like it balloons to a CD size after that. With 300GB harddrives in existance and 20GB as a tiny harddrive, I promise you won't miss the 5MB.

I can't personally, but mattmeck could if he felt like abusing his power. Then again, there is no rule about being ignorant, just rude.

IE isn't the default, mnj. It's only the default for people who are to(sp) lazy/stupid to not take care of their computer. Install Linux and remove that Windows waste of space.

You just described a reason to not have IE. Linux is faster and superior! No opinion involved! Replace Windows and suddenly IE is not the default. No opinion involved at all: Mozilla is 100% faster on all Linux/BSD desktops. It moves infinitely faster. It supports more html, is faster, etc etc. Also, Mozilla actually supports html. IE doesn't, and therein lies the problem. If they would follow standards, there would be no problem, but because people deal with the inferior products that Microsoft provides, we hear this inane drivel on the internet about how it's better because it's what you use.

Mozilla > IE for all Linux users, hands-down. It's my belief that Mozilla is better in general for ALL operating systems.

Try getting IE to work in Linux. It's not user-friendly, the fonts are screwed up, and the general feel of it is wrong. It doesn't follow the desktop theme. Microsoft doesn't even support it! If you want it to work, it's hard as hell to get operating, and requires so much other crap to be installed and configured. How many of you have gotten Diablo to work in Linux? I have. Can I get IE to work? No damn way - it's all b0rxed!

Then try getting it to WORK in Linux or Microsoft or OSX. The only reason IE is faster in Windows is because it is necessary that it be running for you to open ANYTHING. So it comes pre-installed and pre-loaded in memory.

Reasons Mozilla is better (even on Winblows):
1. Tabs, of course. This should count as 3 or 4 reasons. Until Microsoft realizes how to do the middle-click window switch (if you know what I'm talking about, salutations Linux friend!) that we have in Linux, or multiple desktops or tabs, they will always have slower to operate and inferior products.

2. Integrated pop-up manager. This is not a pop-up stopper. It stops all pop-ups that come unrequested that are on websites that are not pre-established as safe websites. What does this mean? I get unrequested popups to log into my bank, and unrequested popups to take a quiz at my online class, but not porno or anything else. I trust my school's class.osu.edu, but not www.lycos.com.

3. Integrated userspace forms manager. Microsoft IE assumes that there is only one account using the internet on your computer because you didn't take the time to set up multiple accounts for you and your roommate. How is your info safe? It's not. Watch the bank info or your emu password autofill in stars. Mozilla has distinct usernames (at least for the suite - I don't use firefox).

4. Download manager. You forgot where you saved that last file or a file you got 3 days ago? Just open up the Mozilla download manager to locate file. It remembers you, so don't worry. That little complaint about how it didn't save stuff when you closed all the windows - the manager takes care of that now. The download manager is also only one window. What does this mean? If I'm downloading 50 files in IE, I have 50 damn windows. With 50 in mozilla, one window with all of that data. It saves so much trouble if you want to cancel a download.

5. Security. I never got a virus or spyware pre-installed without confirmation from Mozilla. Anyone else want to tell me that they did? I'd be interested to know. I loaded my windows partition and within an hour had to spend 3 hours removing spyware one-by-one by hand because they were so virulent and kept installing and reinstalling themselves as I removed them. Within 1 second, F5 was happy to inform me in RegEdit that the Windows/RUN directory (bootup stuff) had replenished 3 of the 8 spyware programs I had JUST deleted. Another second later, there were the other 8. They were all running as I tried to delete them. Forbes and USA Today expound upon how much safer Firefox is than IE.

6. Cross-platform. Mozilla is the same in Windows/Linux/Mac. In fact, it is possible to use the exact same configuration data from the folder in both Windows and Linux, so that you can keep your data intact. That's thanks in no part to Microsoft - accessible most easily from linux into Windows, not from Windows into linux. The main folder would have to be in a native Windows partition.

7. Themes. Mozilla has themes. Does IE? I don't think Microsoft makes it easy to do, if they exist.

8. Open-source. Can't beat the fact that the safety of the program is guaranteed by an offer of the code. If you don't trust the product, check the code which makes you uncomfortable.

All websites work except for ones where people are intolerant of free choice. If people would follow standards instead of using Microsoft products to butcher HTML codes, then every browser would be superior to IE. I even like lynx better than IE... I don't get spyware from the god-damned text version of the web.

Why is IE better? Ummm, because it's illegally (according to the Sherman Antitrust Act) installed without a choice and cannot be removed. Why is it illegal? Because it acts to maintain monopoly status of Microsoft (being a monopoly is legal - TRYING to stay a monopoly is illegal) in the browser and operating system market. Also according to antitrust laws, no two products can be linked (in order to use this, you must purchase this first, and no other way) like IE and Microsoft XXXX OS. IE should have been offered on many platforms to be legal, and giving it away free was illegal, and installing it without a choice was illegal... Monopolies can't act that way. Microsoft was a monopoly. They didn't even deny it when they first started this IE nonsense.

So it's better because it's illegally not a waste of space? IE IS THE WASTE OF SPACE!! Who would INTENTIONALLY pick IE over Mozilla? I riddle you that! If Mozilla were the most populous browser (which Netscape, its predecessor was until Microsoft broke the law), then all websites would follow the Mozilla/Netscape standard.

I can imagine MS now.

Take these wonderful "features"!
Spyware... Viruses... Cannot be removed... Free like Mozilla... No tabs, but we might put those in to copy them!... ummm... did we mention it can't be uninstalled?? It won't work with some websites that follow standards because we broke it, but we have tools that will break websites so that they'll only work with us. Is that cool??

Who would do that?

Can I get an amen from the choir??

I still use Netscape 7.1

I'd consider that a Mozilla vote, since much of the code is identical.

:-P

Firefox is faster than IE, has more features, and yes it actually does indeed support more web standards than IE does. My own analysis and every report I have read has shown Firefox to be superior to IE in every way possible except in enterprise situations of course. Saying that IE is the best browser for Winblows simply because it comes with it is a flat out ignorant statement. That is like saying that Winblows Media Player is the best MP3 player out there. :)