I just realized a mistake I was making, I'll post it maybe others are also; the viewer-tools default to s3d. for example, "listobj.exe tutorialb" looks at tutorialb.s3d. "listobj.exe tutorialb.eqg" will tell you it can't find tutorialb.eqg.s3d. But if you pull tutorialb.s3d out of the directory, then it will properly display tutorialb.eqg objects with just a plain "listobj.exe tutorialb".
Apparantly, it looks for the S3d first, if no S3d, then the eqg. probably should be the other way around, since if there is an eqg with the same name, that's what the client will use.
This was a problem I had and why I was wondering some things would not display with me.
All three tools will do this (put S3d files up front and not display eqg, if both are present).
Make sure you're working with the right file when you make the maps.
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