I DON'T PLAY ON LIVE (sorry for shouting, just thought you wouldn't hear me otherwise

hehe. Seriously, for some reason it happens intermittently, don't know why, but it takes two sec. to fix, and that works every time. Being a programmer myself, I realize that no matter how well you code an app, it will run variantly on different platforms. I mean, I'm using WinME on my overclocked machine, and I'm sure others with WinME run it fine, but for my particular configuration, it trips something every once in a while that makes it necessary for me to run Sony's patcher, and then your patcher. I prefer not to play windowed, or I'd use EQW like everyone else. Anyway, I know what you're saying about not patching more than once though.