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well in most cases, the players wont need to patch to live, thus being able to prevent the problem if they are smart (or even make a seperate eqemu install). but in my case it was a fresh install and I had no choice other then to patch to live, too many outdated files. it seems tobe a problem with dx9b and geforce 4 ti 4200 cards or similar, I am sure the next time eq emu updated to be compatible with live it'll be fixed, so we just have to wait...
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