Working 5.2 Database for everyone to use !!!

[mwmdragon]

http://neverquest.gotdns.com/eq52c-backup.rar

This goes to show you that even when someone asks for a simple blank database you guys are Ahol$es to them. I made that post to see how poorly you would treat someone. Here is a working DB made from the db.sql, tcsmyworlds DB,the new items DB,and a 5.2 update. Please everyone who uses it share what you make. We don't want to have everyone feel bad for asking for something. I just wish I didn't have to prove it to all of you the way I did.

Be nicer to people and this project will advance faster. :wink:

Enjoy the DB. :D

[mwmdragon]

For those of you who do not know how to use it..

create a new database in SQL


create database eq52c;


switch to the database you just made


use eq52c;


Then just source in my SQL dump


source eq52c-backup.sql;



Thats it :) Have fun

[Bearik]

OK..... So you combine some already made DBs and suddenly we should all take back what we said?

And BTW TCS works fine with 5.2. You did nothing, sorry to break it to ya.

Thanks mwmdragon,
I know it hard to keep working on things when your fighting
fires with people like that but anything is better than nothing, and I for one think you are wasteing your time trying to prove a point to them guys.
I will be useing this database are a start on my new server.
now that we have a somewhat stable version out that actualy works correctly im going to start building zones that nobody has touched yet and the updates can be found on my webpage
spacetrader.no-ip.com
the ftp site has a username anon password anon.
good luck with getting people to be nice <G>.
as for me I will just be updateing quietly in the corner over here .

Anouther World Admin.

[Kroeg]

did you make sure you're using the changed tables, ie eventlog/objects/zonelines/respawn_timer in groundspawns, etc..?

Sure, you may be able to login... but you didn't specify what to expect from your db.. is it really complete? -- you basically said it was a combination of things. Did you create this yourself, or just combine other people's work and release it under your name?

[mwmdragon]

I am not releasing this Database under my name. I gave nods to to the people for everything I used. It is a mishmash of other Database SQL files.

It has been tested for a week and everything seems to work fine. If there are bugs (And there probly are) then they can be dealth with later.

The ONLY reason I released this is so anyone who just wants to have an "Out of the box" Server can just download EQEmu 5.2 and then this database and be playing on thier own server.

It is really sad when you try to help out with a mega project like this and you still get $hit on. I have past members of this project, including past GMs from WintersRoar working with me on my NeverQuest project for NeverWinter Nights and we never put anyone down like this. I'm glad the mindset does not carry over from project to project.



Hey Bearik,

What is your problem. You said all those things because you dump on people for any little reason you can. All along I was testing this database. My friends and I made a bet on how flamed I would get asking for a blank database. I asked for a blank database... someone posts that "There are no complete databases" and the next thing you know everyone is ranting about people asking questions. AND THEN taking offence to me being canadian. You sure are some great, high and mighty people... Until you see how you treat poeple. And then I release just what I was asking for and you still aren't happy. Time to think about the project a bit more and flaming people a little less.

As for sdabbs,

Thanks. I hope the database help a lot. And thanks for seeing how poorly people are treated by others on a regular basis.



EVERYONE share what you have, and help others. Like I said... If this happens the project will advance faster and be more fun for everyone. Keep up the flaming and hordeing of anything you come across, and the project will go slower and slower.

[Kroeg]

There will be, like usual, an updated DB from TCS and team in the next couple days.

It's admirable you want to help people out (this is a rare and good quality) but, you're sitting here bitching about people that made this happen from the start -- then you don't even join #npcmovdb and ask TCS if there is a new db or anything else to that effect;

Had you started out your previous "I wish people would just post a working db" thread with something like "Newbie worldbuilder looking for insight" or something like that, I'm sure you would of at least eliminated the flames... but you complained, and came across as ungrateful for what has been made freely available to you (whether or not that's what you meant to imply).

In other words, why did you complain about the lack of 'working dbs' when 1) there were already several successful servers running tcs' db, 2) you were already able to fix your own db and not rant on about it publically (which pisses developers off without fail, I'm sure).

Now it seems everyone is bias to your thoughts, and you compare this group to another? hehe.. 'getting $hit on' will happen everywhere/anywhere in life if you open up a can of 'please $hit on me'. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to flame you -- but you can't expect everyone to understand/care that you want a complete db and you want it now, while everyone else has to wait like the rest.

[Bearik]

MWdragon, you're the one that seems to have a problem. You whine about people not posting their DBs and claim we are lazy and selfish but have you actually tried making your own DB? Did you ever think there simply isnt many people who have made a DB worth releasing?

And then you post this DB, which isnt even yours, just so you can try and get back at the people who flamed you. Listen up man, you can take TCS's COMPLETE DB, yes it is a COMPLETE db, and source in the 5.2 update, it works fine. So what in the holy hell did you actually do?

I'm sorry but your attempt at making people believe you're trying to help this project isnt working. All you do is whine at the people who work their asses off at this.

db.sql, tcsmyworlds DB,the new items DB,and a 5.2 update.

Thats all I need to say. You took other peoples work and put it in one package to try and justify your whining, and try and make yourself look better.

[Scorpious2k]

So does this mean no one will need the one with 100+ zones that Myra is working on?

[rockocool]

I need!!! Myra, go go! you have my support!

[Wumpas]

Scorpius please don't let idiots wrek things for those of us that care. Give myra my aplause I am lookning forword to any databases as I can learn from them all. Its hard to ignor people who rant about spilled milk but please do and this goes for everyone. I stand behind my opinion if we just ignored pointless whiny ranting people the forums would be a happier place.

I dont know if anyones noticed but lately there has been some hostility building in the threads and it worries me.

Come on guys lets lose the grudges its christmas !

(Wumpas puts his flame cannon in storage until Dec 26)

P.S. Tertiary your avatar is awsome :D

[Tertiary]

I stand behind my opinion if we just ignored pointless whiny ranting people the forums would be a happier place. I dont know if anyones noticed but lately there has been some hostility building in the threads and it worries me.

Aye, maybe there should be a 'Flames and Rants' forum for people to place criticism if they see fit, but my impression is that most of these types of posts come from the younger age range of the board who don't realize they are 'whining' and 'ranting'. I personally just tend to skip over these type of posts, but if the Devs/World Builders feel slighted, then I don't blame them for responding.

[lucan]

Seems like a good idea to me to make a database with all data floating around here compiled togther so newbies don't have to work out how to do it.

all they have to do is download the software and install just one db, not 3.

Sometimes noobs get upset when people tell them they are stupid, they are not stupid just noobs.

My advice is, if you have nothing good to say then say nothing. :)

As for help I've got from this board, mostly it has answered my questions after a few replies. Well done.

I've only been called an idiot once for asking a question about something not documented anywhere, I've since resorted to using the search function a lot more. :)

[a_Guest03]

There's a reason why you install three. They're all made by different people and are released at different times. They all serve different purposes.

db.sql has a purpose. Its purpose is to be an empty structure. Using that structure, a database can be populated. This is released by devs, always with the main eqemu server software.

dumpeditems.sql has a purpose. It is updated in a quarter-day cycle, IIRC. It is very current, and holds many items. One could easily incorporate a snapshot, but it wouldn't be current. This is released by a dev-created program, basically.

Other:
tcsmyworld and crew produce a moving database that is released and updated often. This one is released as often as necessary.

So what should we do? It might be a good idea for a person or group of people to decide what's best for the newbies, to create a package of all of this, and release it. It's one extra file to host so that newbies can use just one file. It's also a new process that we must support. Old process would require support, and the new one would require support. So you're inviting more complexity in the support area.

Do whatever you like, but be aware of the facts and the reasons why things happen as they do. There are free dbs. I can understand people wanting to have their own copy of Wiz's server setup, or of guildwars. I think custom worlds should be released, but it wouldn't hurt to let the people who make them finish them before they invite splinter setups. If I had created something wonderful, I'd like to play it out until I knew everything about it, so that releasing it wouldn't cause a barrage of annoying support questions that I spend weeks addressing, especially with newbies.

[devn00b]

I think custom worlds should be released, but it wouldn't hurt to let the people who make them finish them before they invite splinter setups. If I had created something wonderful, I'd like to play it out until I knew everything about it, so that releasing it wouldn't cause a barrage of annoying support questions that I spend weeks addressing, especially with newbies.

Well said.

Reasons i dont let guildwars db be public.

1) Will not release a db i dont feel is ' complete ' in the sense that I feel its done.

2) GuildWars being a different server, I feel it would distroy the game somwhat if everyone could look at what drops what and how often. More playervalue if they have to find out on the server..afterall isnt that wat EQlive is all about?

3) GuildWars code uses some different tables that arent used on a normal eqemu server, and im not sure it would look as intend it to if run on a normal server.

like it or not thats how i feel...and why i will not release the db...never have, doubt i ever will...

I do however work with ( or have in the past ) other db makers with what i find.

I think everyone should just work on a zone and then we would have several people working for one good cause.
if anyone is willing to download openzone and work on it I will
host the zone files on my ftp server.

just a thought..


Shard Admin of Anouther World.

[mwmdragon]

Thats what I mentiond before in the "I wish" post I made that went strait to the top of the message boards for reads :)


It is a great idea but no one wants to share here.

[Nightcrawler]

First of all nice work even if i dont understand what some of you have against it but atleast it works, do i still believe that a team works as a team and dosent split in peaces just becouse of a missunderstanding.

Now a question: Why no gm even if i readed the motd why no gm wheres the fun then administrating a server experimenting etc.
Isent there any way to to get flags 200? =/