new everquest exp and everquest2

[Hack_attack]

hello everyone. i just got 2 emails from everquest. they were talking about how they are making a new exp for everquest that will be out this fall and an everquest 2
this is the link for the website with the new exp

http://everquest.station.sony.com/power/

and everything from below here is a copy of the letter that was sent to me about everquest 2.

Greetings Citizens of Norrath,
With the announcement of EverQuest II, Sony Online Entertainment is showing the incredible future of EverQuest, and how we want to take online gaming on the PC to the next level. The question on a lot of people's minds is what does this mean for EverQuest? Well, as all of you know we're bringing out our fourth expansion, The Planes of Power this Fall . It will add a whole new dimension to EverQuest, particularly to the higher end of the game (although we do have a lot of other cool things for lower level players).

What about after The Planes of Power? We plan on keeping EverQuest running for a long time to come, and those plans include adding more and more features into the game as well as future expansions. In the near term, you can look forward to a completely revamped interface. This interface is going to dramatically change the way people play EverQuest. We're getting rid of the old framed full-screen interface and replacing the entire thing with an extremely modifiable set of windows. Users will be able to customize the interface with their own artwork, and decide for themselves what they want on the screen

[Ariak]

EQ 2 = No Twinking.

The chances of me buying that are roughly that of a snowball's chance of not melting while burning in hell.

[Shawn319]

Just like verant to try to get more money..

Planes of Power (Everquest 1 expantion)

Adventures of Everquest (Playstation 2 everquest, all new game)

Everquest II (New PC everquest game, no char transfers)



I wonder how much AoE and EQ2 will cost per month? i'm thinking thay will have a Standard 12.95 service and a 20$-40$ premium service (like legends, more support, quests, maby a web UI).

[Hardy]

Don't forget the EverQuest board game! LOL!! I saw it in the mall, its so pitiful, haha

[Megahertz]

""Just like verant to try to get more money.. "

We'll, last I checked, that is the point of a business...

-=[ Megahertz ]=-

[Ariak]

Why do you expect VI not to try and make money?

If they half-assed a product we'd have a gimp game like DAOC. Money is the world's best motivating factor. You work for it. You live for it. You die for it. Admit it or deny it, it is true.

[cbreaker]

I don't know what kind of money hungry maniac you are...

... but I don't live for money, and I won't die for it either.

I do however work for money, so that I may live comfortably.

[Shawn319]

""Just like verant to try to get more money.. "

We'll, last I checked, that is the point of a business...

-=[ Megahertz ]=-

Well i ment thay care more about money than the players. i bet you 1000$ the if the GM's cost too much money thay would fire every single one and let the players go on their own.

[Trumpcard]

Well, yea...

Thats how a buisness makes money.. If a resource is costing alot, and it's not providing any value add, you cut it.. Just like dropping your HBO because you never watch it.

Care about the players? Im confused why they should 'care' about the players, what they care about is 2 things.

Overall product acceptance (and player base) and their own economic feaibility (inflow/outflow ratios).

If they didnt care about the players, they wouldnt care about their own business, as logically the number of players would drop, as would their profits... As it stands, they must care pretty good because the eq players numbers are huge.

Customer service might not be the best, but most companies have crappy customer service, just a fact of life..

Im confused why everyone one feels it necessary to personify, and then villify verant. They produce a product, they make money on it, we happily gobble it up and play said product and pay the monthly cost. Yes, there are things I dont like about it, but I doubt they did it intentionally to frustrate anyone. That would be antiproductive to their product, and also their consumer base.

They are just a company.. Anyone that personally hates these people probably should consider therapy imho.

I dont like alot of things about EQ, but then again, I dont like alot of things...

[cbreaker]

They ARE people. Companies don't run themselves, PEOPLE do. So when you get screwed by a company, it's people doing it, PEOPLE are screwing you.

Verant has a track record of shoddy customer support, offensive GM's, and buggy software.

We play the game because it's fun, but that's all. If EQ came out from another company with better Customer Service and better software, which we could transfer the characters to, we would all do it in a heartbeat.

They KNOW that most players have put lots of time into the game. In order to get to "the good stuff" which is the fun stuff, it takes a very long time. By the time we realize what kind of company Verant is, we don't WANT to just change to another online game; we've spent too much time on it getting to the good stuff.

Just because many companies have poor customer service, it does not mean we should accept it. If all car companies started making cars that lasted for 30,000 miles and then broke down completely, would we accept that too? I doubt it.

-cb

[Aramus]

alot of high level players just play the game out of either..

1) addiction, they are used to playing at certain times, etc.

2) chat aspect/friends, they forged these friendships over the years, damned if they give them up because verany messes up.

Most don't play just for "fun".. it really does become an addiction.

But yeah the game is fun for me haha..

[Zamrod]

Yes, I've found the funny thing about EQ and Verant is that I can see the reason they made every decision they have made. I understand changes made to the game that have nerfed me, and I understand their business model.

If you take away the difficulty in levelling and the benefit from going up levels, people stop playing. It is a fun game.

I've seen their customer service work and help people. I've also waited 5 hours to get a guide to answer my petition. I understand the fustration, but I also know the guides are all volunteers and are just like you and I. Their hands are tied in some ways, and for good reason. They can't XP res people for almost anything, because if they did then everyone would want it.

Verant has shown over and over again that they care about their players and they have made changes to the game to make it more enjoyable. Sure, sometimes they haven't responded when their message boards were full of posts like "Yesterday, I saw a necro beat a red mob in 10 seconds solo, nerf necros bad!!". I can understand why they didn't.

I only got bored of the game after about 3 years of playing it, and only because all my friends stopped playing. I still have an account, even if I don't play at all.

However, people are starting to get bored with it, they are moving on to DAOC and other, new games. They need something new, or they won't have anyone left. So, EQ2 will come out. They'll keep EQ running for a while, so as not to leave anyone mad at them for shutting down on them. But most of their customers will choose to leave for EQ2. Once users of EQ are down to nearly non-existant, EQ will be shut down for good.

[veggita2099]

I don't think I will get into Everquest 2 for several reasons.

1. The way you build your chairactor. I know I like to sometimes make a chairactor and play it to lvl 10 and see if I like that class? Well in eq2 you won't be doing that since you can't even choose a class for awhile.

2. Can't TRAIN TO ZONE. How many times have you NOT died cause you ran to the zone? Sure its annoying when a train goes to zone but we all have at some point done it. This is going to cause alot of downtime and exp loss.

3. Banks are not all the same. In eq2 if you put a item in the bank in freeport then go to Qeynos it won't be there. That will get old really quick.

4. So much time invested in my Eq1 chairactor. Alot of people I am sure will agree with this.

I don't like the way they do the Legends server either. I can understand chargeing that kind of money for a special server, more gm events, and better customer service. BUT I don't like how they

1. LEgends players can betatest eq2. Just cause a person can waste 40 bucks a month don't make them a better beta tester then anybody else.

2. Unique NPC's with loot. IT does not cost anymore to put a iksar mob in freeport on all servers. It is just another way they want people's money.

[Trumpcard]

1. Betatesters: Well, you are charging them more, why not show them you value their $, and broadcast a message to the normal players of the benefits of membership. Yea, it's elitism, but its the same kind of elitism Ive seen in the game since the very beginning. Now all those whining 14 year olds in uber guilds will be crying the blues because they're no longer at the top of the power food chain..lol...

2. Banks: The plus side of this is you get a hell of alot more storage room. A unique bank per town, just think of all the worthless crap you could store ! (Ive still got junk from lvl 3 quests in there , and I have no idea what its for)

3. Too much time invested. I agree here. Personally, i wont be playing as Star Wars Galaxies will be out by then and I wont pay for more than one onliner at a time.

4. Not trying to be rude here, but whats the point in charging more for a service if you don't give them anything over the top of what normal players are already getting? I dont think you're getting the concept of 'value added service'

[veggita2099]

They are getting there own server which is not overcrowded, supposedly better customer service, and more gm events.

And what about the people who can't afford 40 bucks a month? Sure Id love to be on that server but I got bills to pay, girlfriend to keep happy, etc etc. I mean 40 bucks a month is alot of money. Just cause a person can't pay 40 bucks a month for a game don't mean they shouldn't be involved in the beta testing of a new game.

What about the people who have been with eq since beta and have spent hundreds of dollars in fee's and expansions? Almost every EQ player has been loyal to Verent despite the constant bugs, increase in price, sub-par customer service, rude gm's, etc. Like most beta's they should go by your system specs so they can test it on various systems. Not by the wad of money in your wallet!

I know when the Beta of Warcraft III was released they choose the players by the specifications of there pc. A good gaming company does this so when the final version is released they can see how it works on various pc's.

And on the banks yes that would be nice, but what happens when your in Freeport and you see PAYING WELL FOR BLAHBLAH and there is somebody paying double what its worth. Oh but wait its in the bank 8 zones away not the bank that is 1 zone away. Then you have to remember which bank has what items. I agree my bank is full of junk also, but Id rather have it full of junk then have to search bank after bank trying to find where I put it.

[Hmm]

ouc how about this... you store very valuable tuff in fp bank.. and become kos to them later on, barring you from that bank.

[Trumpcard]

Well, you should have thought about that before you pissed off the natives! Drop all your good stuff off in the bank, then run over and rob some helpless old lady, shame on you! You should lose your stuff! And really, how hard is it sneaking into a town?

LOL

As far as beta testers go... Lets see, is it fair that the guy across the street from me makes twice as much and works half as much? Is it fair when a child is born with a genetic defect? no...
Is it fair that I will NEVER get into Denise Richards pants?

Lifes just not fair..

I highly doubt they will be limiting their beta's to JUST the legends people, they are probably just assuring those people a first look..
Is that fair? Ask a legends player, hell yes its fair he'll say, they're paying 30 bucks a month more than you for that level of service! As it's 4 times more expensive than a regular account, in 3 months they spend just as much as others have in a year.. Is this elitist? Yes, of course, in a capitialist society, the good stuff goes to those with the $$$. If you don't like these concepts, I can suggest some good socialist regimes you can consider..

As far as all of the rest of us who have been playing since the late beta days, yea, I've probably spent around 500 bucks on this game over the past 3 years... 36 months or so at 7-8 a month, original game, 3 expansions, but I don't think that entitles me to VIP treatment.. If EVERYONE was entitled, you would have eq2 beta servers that had 300,000 people on them, you have to draw the line somewhere...

[Schmuck]

They ARE people. Companies don't run themselves, PEOPLE do. So when you get screwed by a company, it's people doing it, PEOPLE are screwing you.

As of 1866 corporations were viewed as people.

[osmosys]

In the beginning there was Neren... A Druid with all of his points distributed to strength! Neren was a tank druid... The first of his kind. Neren's owner, um a friend of mine... ya, only paid $9.95 a month for his wonderful account. $9.95 for 30 wonderful days full of killing bats and giant wasps, and Neren's owner said 'This is good' and was happy.

Neren grew to lvl 12 and his owner realized a little more wisdom would be nice. So he recreated Neren, a better Neren, a Neren that even had a story written about him on Everlore (back in tha day). This Neren learned many a spell and slaid many an orc.

On day Neren's owner got on and a little poll popped up:

'Would you mind paying more for your EverQuest account?'

Neren's owner checked 'I guess not...'

This was a mistake... $12.95 a month is not good. $39.95 a month for Legends is a joke. Now Neren's owner plays with emulated servers. THE END! *claps*

.osmosys

[menadwen]

I bet the new exp will be gay

[Azooma]

Verant known now what makes playability time and will play on it heheh ...... Projects like eqemu give the average joe bloggs a look on the inside about how the wheels turn and burn inside a online game good reasons or bad it does not matter main thing is now we have the option to really create our own worlds , be part of an adventure that you like too! Epic encounters that you work your ass of for and always remember LoL damn so excited !

[IADarkScythe]

Why do you expect VI not to try and make money?

If they half-assed a product we'd have a gimp game like DAOC. Money is the world's best motivating factor. You work for it. You live for it. You die for it. Admit it or deny it, it is true.

um exuce me my ariak but DAoC has twice the graphics of everquest and probably is running the same engine that everquest2 will run off of so i dont know what daoc your thinking of but sure as hell can't be dark age of camelot see this is the thing with people today they start something and if there not the best at it within an hour they thing it sucks ass....

just throwing in my thoughts

[Wiz]

""Just like verant to try to get more money.. "

We'll, last I checked, that is the point of a business...

-=[ Megahertz ]=-

Well i ment thay care more about money than the players. i bet you 1000$ the if the GM's cost too much money thay would fire every single one and let the players go on their own.

They already did this. Called the "Shared GM Pool".

[Wiz]

Why do you expect VI not to try and make money?

If they half-assed a product we'd have a gimp game like DAOC. Money is the world's best motivating factor. You work for it. You live for it. You die for it. Admit it or deny it, it is true.

um exuce me my ariak but DAoC has twice the graphics of everquest and probably is running the same engine that everquest2 will run off of so i dont know what daoc your thinking of but sure as hell can't be dark age of camelot see this is the thing with people today they start something and if there not the best at it within an hour they thing it sucks ass....

just throwing in my thoughts

DAoC is really boring, has no real atmosphere, and no amazing graphics. Decent at best, but jeezus, they use the same texture for ground all over the entire game world.