Should we bring the Scorpious2k server back?

[Scorpious2k]

I have been asked this, and since no one is running a clone right now except Sarland (Gothic Circle) and it is being highly modifed, I thought I would pass the question on.

I would help as much as I can, but would probably let Dindoleki and Mattmeck run it so I could concentrate on working on the new game.

[Iamien]

I voted NO.

Reason there are enough servers already.

[zuperzip]

I said YES but only because I have high hopes.

[mattmeck]

Little back history


S2K was a "G" rated server, family friendly.

100% customly spawned, with 100% custom quests, and several custom zones, and has the custom Merchant class.


Bans come quick for hackers, exploiters, and people who dont respect the G rating.

There is events scripted to turn certain zones into holiday zones, holloween, X-mass etc. With custom loot, backround music, mobs.


GM events were frequent, and Donators got a decient cape (not overpowered) and access to custom made zones just for them.

[solid11]

I voted NO.

Reason there are enough servers already.

Clearly someone who hasn't played on S2K....."enough servers"? HEHE

[Sorce]

I played the s2k server for a while, and had a great time. I am assuming, if you bring it back, it will be a fresh start? Or will it be possible to still play as my old character?

Voted yes either way.

[mattmeck]

No character wipe, everyones old characters are still there.

[Ueguvil]

I voted NO.

Reason there are enough servers already.

Plenty of servers, but very few quality servers.


Voted yes.

[paaco]

One of my fav servers of all time. About the only one I ever stuck with long term. If you guys bring it back up I'll tinker around on it for sure. Fun Server.

[CrabClaw]

I vote yes! I love seeing custom content vs. the stuff I payed for too many years.

[Kassatsu9681]

s2k was the only server worth sticking around for, and it still is.

Love the hated / loved



Kassatsu

[sdabbs65]

I played the s2k server for a while, and had a great time. I am assuming, if you bring it back, it will be a fresh start? Or will it be possible to still play as my old character?

Voted yes either way.

I kept all your old chars around for 6 months.
nobody claimed them so they got wiped.
S2K is still alive and well.... just in another fourm now with a lot more custom zones and items.

[sdabbs65]

I have been asked this, and since no one is running a clone right now except Sarland (Gothic Circle) and it is being highly modifed, I thought I would pass the question on.

I would help as much as I can, but would probably let Dindoleki and Mattmeck run it so I could concentrate on working on the new game.

I been working on the code for 6 months trying to get it updated to version 7.0.
I do run a clone of it but it's totaly different from the orginal one so I say go ahead and have at it.

[Scorpious2k]

If we are going to bring it back, we will need donations to bring it up and keep it running... the donate button is on http://scorpious2k.info Donators will receive the same benefits as before PLUS they will be the first to get on the server when it comes up.

I'll need a PM telling me your forum name (from the mantis forum http://www.scorpious2k.net/mantis/disclaimer.html where we will have the s2k forums), account name, email used with paypal, and amount donated.

*looks around and wonders where everyone went when he said "donations" *

[RexChaos]

If it's anything like SoD then I'd be willing to donate, but I'm not going to donate without tryign it out first. I donate monthly to SoD though and have always donated to them as long as I was playing.

[John Adams]

What costs are there for hosting a server? Maybe you guys run server-grade machines and your own internet pipe... which costs money. Just curious how the "real" servers run, since mine is on a w/s class machine and Cox highspeed internet, and works fine for low-population servers.

[Scorpious2k]

What costs are there for hosting a server? Maybe you guys run server-grade machines and your own internet pipe... which costs money. Just curious how the "real" servers run, since mine is on a w/s class machine and Cox highspeed internet, and works fine for low-population servers.

We did that at first. By the time we had 10+ players on, it was lagging, even after I optimized some code to reduce bandwidth.

We went to a dedicated server which handled the 70+ players on the server very well.

[eq4me]

Can you give me a rough estimate how many Gigabytes per Month a well populated Server would need? Just a rough estimate. Do we talk 10ish or 100ish GB/Month here?

We did that at first. By the time we had 10+ players on, it was lagging, even after I optimized some code to reduce bandwidth.

May I ask if that optimization is only in the S2k server or did it made it into the official EQEmu code too?

[Scorpious2k]

Can you give me a rough estimate how many Gigabytes per Month a well populated Server would need? Just a rough estimate. Do we talk 10ish or 100ish GB/Month here?

I don't have any real stats. The server we had gave us 2000GB/month and we never used it all, but we didn't get any reports saying what we used.

May I ask if that optimization is only in the S2k server or did it made it into the official EQEmu code too?

I put what I could into EQEmu. The biggest would be the use of string numbers instead of literal strings. In the string file are commonly used phrases. Instead of sending a several byte text line, you can send the number to the same text in the string file so the client uses that instead. From the player point of view it appears the same, but the server sends fewer bytes in packets. This can add up over time.

Along the same line, I went in and reduced the range of some messages like in /say, emotes, spell messages, battle messages, etc. A smaller range can reduce the number of packets sent to players because they are outside the smaller range. It can also reduce spam messages, by reducing the range of spell messages and battle messages for example. This didn't go into EQEmu, since it is intended to be like live.

[drozes]

Long Long LONG time visitor and player of eqemu and specifically s2k. Scorp please bring it back. I voted yes and I was also one of the original donators and continued to donated after I stopped playing. I will definitely donate if it looks like this is going to really happen.


-Drozes

[Dindoleki]

Long Long LONG time visitor and player of eqemu and specifically s2k. Scorp please bring it back. I voted yes and I was also one of the original donators and continued to donated after I stopped playing. I will definitely donate if it looks like this is going to really happen.


-Drozes

YES! Based on this poll, it really is going to happen. It'll be great to see you and all the other "old timers" back as well as new players. We will bring it back as soon as we have enough donations. So the server will be up soon.


the donate button is on http://scorpious2k.info

[mattmeck]

If we are going to bring it back, we will need donations to bring it up and keep it running... the donate button is on http://scorpious2k.info Donators will receive the same benefits as before PLUS they will be the first to get on the server when it comes up.

I'll need a PM telling me your forum name (from the mantis forum http://www.scorpious2k.net/mantis/disclaimer.html where we will have the s2k forums), account name, email used with paypal, and amount donated.

*looks around and wonders where everyone went when he said "donations" *


Cant host the forums for the server there, thats what the C&D stated and I will loose my host if we do it again. They were cool and let me take it down instead of booting me as a customer, we will find an alternative place.

[drozes]

I'll be donating tomorrow.

[John Adams]

We did that at first. By the time we had 10+ players on, it was lagging, even after I optimized some code to reduce bandwidth.

We went to a dedicated server which handled the 70+ players on the server very well.
Cool, that's what I was looking for. I knew residential modem access is likely not going to be good enough. But I'm too tight to spend money on anything but EQLive, heh!

[Sorce]

I will definitely be donating again as well. Only question I have, now that I know my character is still there, would be, did you guys add any new material after putting in the MattMeck mob? The details of the server are a bit fuzzy to me, but I do remember when you guys put him in, but quit shortly thereafter.

[indianblue6]

I would definalty vote yes for the server to be brought back up.

[Ueguvil]

If it's anything like SoD then I'd be willing to donate, but I'm not going to donate without tryign it out first. I donate monthly to SoD though and have always donated to them as long as I was playing.


It's nothing similar to SoD.

[n3uxme9669]

I voted yes. S2K was my first emu server i ever played and still the best that i've ever played.

I would love if the server came back.

[Tygerwoody]

I don't see why you noobs don't just work on Sarland. I host it for free.

Sarlaiel_G

[Eqman001]

i say yes to bring back S2k.. i need something to play... id play Sarland if it was hidden or whatnot lol/ on lockdown or whatever

[John Adams]

I don't see why you noobs don't just work on Sarland. I host it for free.

Sarlaiel_G
Could be the attitude? Not sure.

[firedup52]

yeah sarlalieal get a better attitude :D

[Kingmen30264]

I am not sure on what the server is about and all but it sounds kick a$$ and i would love to try it. Also i like the kind of servers with custom gear and and fast leveling, AA xp is can stay the same but on the leveling i like it to where it is like double or quadrouple what it is normally.


but i voted yes, keep posting ya'll...

The King

[mattmeck]

Yea whats up with the attitude dork!

Sarl is a good guy that we have close ties too, his attitude is him joking with us.


And to answer that questions, we want S2K back not *your* version of it.

No saying your doing a bad job its just diferent.

[RexChaos]

It's nothing similar to SoD.

What I meant was the quality....not the content.

[Scorpious2k]

Thanks for the votes everyone.

Still waiting on donations, but it is definitely on its way back.

[John Adams]

Sarl is a good guy that we have close ties too, his attitude is him joking with us.
Ahh, I get it. Frat house stuff. No offense meant, Sarl. I tend to be a little dry sometimes, doesn't translate in text well. :)

[zshasis]

So when do you expect the server to be comeing back up? i am really looking forward to it...

[mattmeck]

So when do you expect the server to be comeing back up? i am really looking forward to it...

As soon as there is enough donations for the box, everything is ready to install and go.

[conquerer]

So where are you on the donations? How much do you need?

[mattmeck]

So where are you on the donations? How much do you need?


Still sitting ar $0.00 in donations, not a single one so far.

[Scorpious2k]

So far $0 in donations.

I hope people are donating to the right place...

[Sorce]

I know you may have posted it before, but maybe yo can post it again just to make sure we know where to go. I was going to donate this week, and want to make sure I know the right place to go.

[mattmeck]

If we are going to bring it back, we will need donations to bring it up and keep it running... the donate button is on http://scorpious2k.info Donators will receive the same benefits as before PLUS they will be the first to get on the server when it comes up.

I'll need a PM telling me your forum name (from the mantis forum http://www.scorpious2k.net/mantis/disclaimer.html where we will have the s2k forums), account name, email used with paypal, and amount donated.

*looks around and wonders where everyone went when he said "donations" *


See above for the info (this makes 3 times its posted in this thread, I realy hope someone dont send it omewhere else)

[terminator24h]

I loved S2k. Please bring it back. I will be eternally grateful. I miss it daily and I wish it were still a part of my life.

All jokes aside, it was an excellently run server and I would gladly donate if it were brought back up. Particularly if my character is still there :)

[Grundy]

G rated servers in a T rated game are lame. how "G" is it when the purpose of the game is to kill things? that doesnt sound like a family friendly thing to do

[paaco]

By G rated they really mean like PG-13. No rediculous amount of cursing and acting like your 12. It doesn't mean you have to talk in /ooc about Barney and Carebears as you kill things.

[conquerer]

So if you are at $0.00. How much do you need to get it up and running? Exact figures please, no ambigous "we need some money to get started" kind of answers.

[Scorpious2k]

I am still looking at and considering dedicated servers but the cost will be about $120-150 month - so enough for the first monthe would be needed at the least before we brought it up.

[Sorce]

As I mentioned before, it has been a long time since I have played on this server. My question is, will it be on the list of servers currently accessible, or is there somewhere else I should check on occasion to see if you guys have brought it up?

[Belfedia]

As I mentioned before, it has been a long time since I have played on this server. My question is, will it be on the list of servers currently accessible, or is there somewhere else I should check on occasion to see if you guys have brought it up?

Perhaps here :)

http://www.eqemulator.net/wiki/wikka.php?wakka=activeservers

[Sorce]

Are you guys still thinking about bringing the server back? Just havent heard anything in a while, and was curious.

[mattmeck]

yes, just still waiting.

[kovouau]

any chance of a how much donations are at now.... i just donated 10.... and can continue to each week or maybe some more....just i don't receive the biggest pay packet, and was wondering how far from target we are at.

[EliseusKayne]

Bring the server back up, DO EEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!!! Soon :D

~Cyrus

[Scorpious2k]

any chance of a how much donations are at now.... i just donated 10.... and can continue to each week or maybe some more....just i don't receive the biggest pay packet, and was wondering how far from target we are at.

Got the donation and thanks.

At last check, we are at $30

[Sorce]

If he donated $10, and I donated $15, then all of those people that voted yes, must not want the server back up as badly as they originally stated.

[kovouau]

come on guys :D..... best server around, and we are at $30... sorry thats a bit sad.... if everyone who voted yes..... donated $5-$10.... wed have the first 3 months done

[EliseusKayne]

If i had money, I would donate.

[n3uxme9669]

same, i have no money... or paypal.

i'd love to donate but, can't.


sorry.

[Sorce]

So much for my $15 I guess

[John Adams]

Yeah, there's a way to inspire others to donate... start assuming you got screwed. Here's a different approach; be patient, wait and see what the admins come up with.

[Sorce]

I said nothing about being screwed, I have full faith in the administration. As for being patient, I have been checking the forums every single day, hoping for an update, or an eta. I played their server long enough to know that there are some good people behind it, so I am in no way attacking them. However, after it was said they needed donations, people continued to vote yes, without helping the cause. If I didn't have faith, I would never have donated in the first place.

That being said, I could have worded it differently. As in, I guess, at this time, there isnt much hope for the server being brought back.

[acaylian]

Bans come quick for hackers, exploiters, and people who dont respect the G rating.


errr, nice PR, but when i played bans never came when guides became corrupt deciding to spawn boss mobs over and over again for loot. also, when people were duping blue diamonds and event items, what happened? absolutely nothing. and the leadership DID know about it =P

[czahrien]

I don't know what you are talking about. Bannings were swift in everything that you mentioned once it was found out that this stuff was happening. The dupers weren't perma banned but the duping exploit was fixed and there was no problems since.

The guide(he had a lot of GM commands, guides had no power to spawn mobs) that was spawning low level npcs with loot tables of the targets was caught and banned within a few hours after the npcs were discovered, he was already disliked by most of the people on the server and his equipment on his "legit character" which was a mystery for awhile all of a sudden made sense. As far as I know after those two incidents there was nothing that happened that was anywhere near the same level. Other than that one guide all the guides did their job correctly.

I think you quit while the things were happening or missed the actions taken against them. Within a day or two after both of these things were discovered they were banned. The GMs were almost always on and many of the people who I knew were always on the watch for suspicious things and were in contact with the GMs quite often about things which didn't seem right.

Anyway playing on the Scorpious2k was the most fun I have ever had playing EverQuest, I would donate all I could to bring it back if I had money. :(

[Scorpious2k]

I am thinking of bringing it up on our home connection over the weekend...

[Scorpious2k]

Correction... it's up.

Donators, contract me to find out how to get in if you don't know how.

The rest of you, if you can get in, are welcome to join us.

[zshasis]

what is up?

[mattmeck]

what is up?


The server...

[n3uxme9669]

very cool - hope to see yall on there in a bit!

[Nessful]

so only donaters can join the server? darnet, im only 14 yrs old, lol, when will it be available and what is the server name?

[n3uxme9669]

and i meant to ask - but it won't let me edit my post ..

Is the server staying up for good now?

or is it unknown / going to be speratic?


Thanks much

[zshasis]

haha well i figured it was the server... but i dont understand y only donators are aloud to get on? And also ... when will everyone else be able to get on it?

[Scorpious2k]

Anyone who can get on sarland or could get on s2k before should be able to get on.

[mattmeck]

haha well i figured it was the server... but i dont understand y only donators are aloud to get on? And also ... when will everyone else be able to get on it?

The big issue is its running off a cable connection at Scorps home, so only a few people can actualy play, once there is enough donations for a dedicated server we will open it to everyone and broadcast it loud where it is.

[zshasis]

well i had the patcher to get on it... but i have seem to misplaced it. would you be able to give another one?

[maepoot]

Enjoy your fries Scorp ;)

[maepoot]

Can you keep us updated on the donation status please Scorp?

Waiting on funds transfer to my paypal before I can donate anymore.

[Scorpious2k]

Sure.

We're at $50 now,

[sdabbs65]

Sure.

We're at $50 now,
How much more do you need?
im thinking about dropping a money bomb maybe.
depends on if this guy buys this website im working on for him.

[Scorpious2k]

How much more do you need?
im thinking about dropping a money bomb maybe.
depends on if this guy buys this website im working on for him.

Probably $125-130 / month

[maepoot]

Will the server be up for the weekend again?

[Scorpious2k]

Will the server be up for the weekend again?

It looks like Dindoleki has it up again.

[Mikeko]

it was up this morning, but i dont see it up anymore. If some1 could put it up, that would be great :D

[maepoot]

it was up this morning, but i dont see it up anymore. If some1 could put it up, that would be great :D

What he said.

[Scorpious2k]

Talk to Dindo, I think he took it down to play that war game

[Mikeko]

how do i talk to him

[Orsenfelt]

Xfire, I'd imagine..

[Darcean]

Old old old player from the s2k server, decided to check around to see if it got back up(the last time i played was when scorp first started selling the server), i got several questions..


would my acc. still be there? and also, would it still be active and everything? I also would like to know if i could still use the eqemu i have(which i think i last touched.. a year ago? or a year and a half ago?) Thats all for now...

[Scorpious2k]

Old old old player from the s2k server, decided to check around to see if it got back up(the last time i played was when scorp first started selling the server), i got several questions..


would my acc. still be there? and also, would it still be active and everything? I also would like to know if i could still use the eqemu i have(which i think i last touched.. a year ago? or a year and a half ago?) Thats all for now...

Chars and accounts are the same as when we brought the server down

If the version of eq you have is the same as the one you used on S2K back then, it will still work.

[Nessful]

Heya Scorp im new to Eqemu i just wanted to say i have heard alot about your server and i really like it even though i havent played it, when will it be up? im in the regular loginserver atm * 5998 *, i havent seen it up, is it different?

[excalaber2]

Talk to Dindo, I think he took it down to play that war game

That's kind of funny...I download War Rock and I'm like wow cool game. Then it's like OH Dindoleki....no way! lol *throws grenade* bring back scorp2k!! lol j/k.....that is a fun game though :)

On a side note, I can't wait to play scorp2k again. My name was Boota Atoob the monk :) I was wondering if there is a way to login now, even though a dedicated server is not setup. Do I need to patch my old school EQ client all the way to current? Last time I did that a while ago I remember there being problems. Thanks in advance, and see you all soon!

[n3uxme9669]

i think people who use to play and still have the abilities to login to the server are still able to play, or if you have donated towards it being on a dedicated server, then scorp would hooked you up.

[excalaber2]

i think people who use to play and still have the abilities to login to the server are still able to play, or if you have donated towards it being on a dedicated server, then scorp would hooked you up.
Oh okay....well I still have my acct name and pw then it's just that I don't think It's all configged up like it used to be....might have to check old PC but I may have deleted it : (

[excalaber2]

Okay I checked my old PC and the EQ folder is there with all the files I used to need along with my character name files in there too from scorp2k. The only problem is that I think I deleted EQ itself. Heres where I need help: Should I download EQ trilogy and install that to the same folder as my old EQ directory? I know that I had luclin and probably Planes of Power as well in there somewhere, but will that give me the client I need to alter the shortcut to? I also have "Scorpious 2k Patcher" which seems useless now since I'm sure things have changed. IF there are any settings in the patcher I might be able to change also let me know. I'm trying to revive something dead here because I miss the game :) Thanks in advance.

P.S. Dindo I got much better in War Rock ::evilgrin::

[DEVOGEN]

YES! bring back S2k... it was the greatest server created yet, I was even planning on making a dedication server, or asking for a clone of the database but i have had problems finding people to help me code quests and repopulate zones as per how i remember them

Quick question, if you bring the server back up will it be updated to use titanium? if so then will it also have the changes from when it became "squeaker gaming" server?

Cisco was nice and everything but i disliked a couple of his changes

[Scorpious2k]

Quick question, if you bring the server back up will it be updated to use titanium? if so then will it also have the changes from when it became "squeaker gaming" server?

I think we have the squeeker and dark realm changes, but it is up now as it was when we brought it down. I am not sure what of the squeeker/dark realm changes will be brought in, if anything.

[DEVOGEN]

Thanks for the information and prompt reply, is there a site up where i can download custom zone files to play?

[n3uxme9669]

-Do not ask for back patches, or for any way to find warez


i guess that would include asking for a site.


but the answer is no.

[DEVOGEN]

Asking for a site to patch custom content, like zones, is not a violation of the rules

[n3uxme9669]

sorry, missread, wasn't trying to get you in trouble or anything, was just checking.


again, apologies.

[Cripp]

no worries.
I fixed his post to make it a little more specific so people dont get that misunderstanding anymore.