Is EQ EMU falling apart?

[Osiros]

Heya all! I just wanted to ask, is EQ Emu falling apart? I know recently there has been some patches that has been breaking the EMU, but I'm not exactly hearing of much progress. What makes me think this, is about 2-3 months ago when patches used to be maybe ever 2-3 days, EQ Emu had a new version the next day. I'm not complainin tho, just saying, it seems like its not a serious project anymore. Also, before the June 5th patch, there was a TON of servers, and everything was fine and dandy.. but now, since there's no new version of EQ emu, there have been people turning away from it. Like, if you look right now, there is only one legit server and all of the others are testing. The legit server (Hogiebane's) also has some problems.. and at times I go LD zoning and there is no database.. whatsoever... Any word?

[Hardy]

The patches that Varent are doing are pretty much getting ready for the Planes of Power release. They are doing so many changes its probably hard to keep the emu working. After Planes of Power is released, patches will probably be back to normal, once every 3 months or so. But right after it is released, we will probably see a release every day to fix the thousands of bugs that they will have ;)

[Hardy]

Here ya go: http://forums.eqemu.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2681

[Baltar]

don't think it's falling apart, the devs are just spending more time
on the next release which is better imho. :)

[h37lion]

Once again, I agree. The Devs spending more time on the emu is non-questionable.. the more time spent on it, the more features and compatibility when it's next release shows up.

I'm dishonest if I say the time since the last emu release isn't tense.... and purely lying if I say I don't crave another release, but.. the time already spent on the emu is tremendous, and much like a job.. even if it's fun, the devs need a little time to get things together... keeping up on the releases is distressing on the END-USER's side... nevermind what it's like when you actually have to do all the work!

[stormgod]

it would be good to be able to get some updated sources if no binary updates so we could play with the thing but I guess it would not be compatible with login servers and things like that

[Bloodyskull]

No, the devs are not spending more time on the emu. They are actually spending less time on it and more time on RL. At least thats what Shawn says. So yes, I do have a feeling that it is indeed falling apart especially since the update site for the new version of emu (eqemu.crimsonlayer.net) hasnt been updated in a couple of weeks.

[h37lion]

fine, whatever. I am just sick of seeing people bitch about the lack of updates.

[Bloodyskull]

I'm not bitching. Shawn said so himself. They are letting RL run their lives instead of the emu. So stfu.

[h37lion]

I'm not bitching. Shawn said so himself. They are letting RL run their lives instead of the emu. So stfu.


If the attitude you've displayed on this thread is the way you like to act, be so kind as to do it on another post, even another forum. This is discussion about EqEmu and everything about that, not everything about you.

I simply stated that in general I was tired of seeing people only finding time to bitch about the next update.. only then did you choose to single yourself out and act defensive, showing me that you felt like that statement somehow was connected to you!

If you disagree and wish to flame, think not to outwardly display arogance and foolishness by posting it publically.. just send it as a private message - the point will be made, and 'BloodySkull' won't be looked apon as a fool. :eek:

[Jon]

he h37 guy, just do us a favor and be quiet and let the other guy get himself banned... he will regret it, k?

[DeletedUser]

"They are letting RL run their lives instead of the emu"
Excuse me? What do any of us owe you? We don't owe you anything. You go out and work on your own emulator it you cannot deal with us and our real lives. Im not going to ruin my real life working on some emulator.

[Hardy]

I agree fully with Image, real life is alot more important than an emulator, they can quit whenever they feel like it, live with it. Its called life. They are not getting paid to do this, just be happy they are doing a great job on it, and if you want to keep playing on it, don't patch when they warn you about it, that might mean you need to read :eek: its not that scary, trust me.

[Baron Sprite]

Just give it some time, all projects go through ups and downs. ;)

[Zeitgeist]

hey Image et al thanks for the great work, ignore the Retard brigade and rest assured the longtimers are still here lurking. I still get IM messages every day and still help out where I can I just don't post as much. Enjoy RL and enjoy the emu when you can. You guys rock now as you always have. Projects do indeed swing up and down and all around... it doesn't really mean anything. Doomsaying is pointless... to the attitude monkeys sh!tspamming on this thread, get a life.


much love,

Z-.

[eblan]

I'm going to keep this post very simple and to the point... Why not appreciate the work and time they've put in so far, instead of expect more? The way I see it, they've built an awesome emulator, and they've done it for free. They work their butts off in their spare time, and all they want is the respect they deserve.

You can't possibly expect them to give up their real lives for a free open source project. It can be hard enough juggling a real job with real life. Throw a 3rd endeavor into the mix and you can have chaos. It saddens me how many people are being such children about it. So I repeat, appreciate the work and time they've put in so far, and find a real life until the next emulator's out... :)

-Eblan

[Osiros]

Well, What I'd have to say is.. I definitely do appreciate this project and its advantages... But, the thing is, a project is a project, it is there to be finished 99.9 percent of the time. I'm not saying I don't respect that people have lives, and hell I have one too, but if there are issues with the production of the EQEmu, why not either put out a final version *bug accepted.. nothing is bug free* or at least inform people completely of the whereabouts and how they can improve the developement if the dev team does give up. Also.. I kinda have a side question. How come EverQuest can't be emulated just as EverQuest Live? I understand the database issue, but it definitely would be great if we had the database and have the ability to just "add" onto EverQuest so to speak.. as in, have a expansion pack of some sort to convert it to the EMU.. I'm pretty darn sure we're eons from this concept, but then again I'm just saying =P. Anyways, in short I really do appreciate the work going into this project, but, this instability is gettin kinda annoying (not complaining - its a fact) and HackersQuest's Emu is doin better with the patches that have been recently breaking EQEmu.

In Short: It would be nice to have a final product.. a product as it is is, working with patches to come, a bare-bones database included, in which people can improve on their own and distrubute via the website.. Pretty much an EMU that is finished, but just barely.. An EMU that doesn't need new features.. Just the ones as it does, besides Spawn/Item updates

But I guess I'm just a little anticipated, and yes, I'm unintentionally holding my breath.. Save me!

[eblan]

I had to read that a couple times to understand it, not sure if I still do.. As far as I know the project isn't breaking up, and if it was i'm sure they would tell us. As far as a "final product" or "complete database", I really have no idea what you mean by those.

The database is one of the things people work on, the data has to be collected, merged, they don't have everything. Realistically I think the only place that does have a complete database of everything is Verant, and feel free to ask them for it, godspeed to ya. The database work is not done by EQEmu, they write the emulator itself.

I'm sure they have their reasons for not just releasing what they have working now as 0.3.4, and i'm sure it'll be worth it. So just chill out and trust their judgement, it got them this far so they obviously know what they're doing.

-Eblan

[Hardy]

Okey, call Varent and ask for the database? LOL!!!!! have fun ;) I am pretty damn sure they are going to give out there database to something they don't like one bit and banning people for using
:D

[a_Guest03]

When they're done with 90% of the emulator and have all sorts of kickass tools for them, I think we'll all look back on the waiting as a trivial matter that was childish to go crazy over. Happiness is the key to innovation with volunteer developers. Let them find happiness and they will return when they have little else to do.