View Full Version : my only request make the zones stop crashing!
opyrus
06-21-2008, 12:07 PM
eqemu has been around how long and they still havent pinned down excessive zone crashing. in a normal 24hours at least 20-50 zones crash seems like way to much to me maybe 1 a day or maybe a week. also would someone set the UAC and vista error reporting in precompiled copys XD not like its hard.
Angelox
06-21-2008, 01:02 PM
eqemu has been around how long and they still havent pinned down excessive zone crashing. in a normal 24hours at least 20-50 zones crash seems like way to much to me maybe 1 a day or maybe a week. also would someone set the UAC and vista error reporting in precompiled copys XD not like its hard.
The last time a zone crashed on me was months ago, and was because I made an improper entry in my database. Other than that, I would forget or miss database updates posted in the changelogs.
So in the time I've been here (2 years?), this has happened to me maybe 2-3 times, and always was my fault. I would think unless you have 100+ players on at the same time, and I doubt even PEQ server has this many zone crashes, the problem is with you, and not the emulator.
trevius
06-21-2008, 01:41 PM
If you are having that many zone crashes per day, either your server can't handle the load (low stats), or there is something you have on your server that is causing the problem. One thing to check into is to see if you have any items with focus effects that are "unknown". Anytime an item with an unknown focus effect is worn and a player casts a spell, it will always crash the zone.
This would be the case if you allow summoned items or have items in your loot tables with effects past Titanium. To fix that, either remove the unknown effects from the items, remove the items from your loot tables, or maybe try updating your spell file to live so that at least the server knows what the effect is even though the client won't. Then, it should stop crashing due to that reason. It would be nice if there was an update to the code to ignore unknown effects so it doesn't crash on them.
Andrew80k
06-21-2008, 11:09 PM
The last time a zone crashed on me was months ago, and was because I made an improper entry in my database. Other than that, I would forget or miss database updates posted in the changelogs.
So in the time I've been here (2 years?), this has happened to me maybe 2-3 times, and always was my fault. I would think unless you have 100+ players on at the same time, and I doubt even PEQ server has this many zone crashes, the problem is with you, and not the emulator.
I second this. My server is hardly ever down and the only time I've had any zone crashes were my fault for not having the proper database entries. My zones have been very stable, hell my whole server seems rock solid.
It's most likely a crash specific to something you're trying to do with your server. Low stats could always be a problem but it's more likely you'd notice *crippling lag* first. With some more info I'm sure people would be willing to help get it resolved.
opyrus
06-22-2008, 03:15 AM
well im running the latest PEQ database 1110 heres some of my errors i have loged. ive allways had zone crashing issues precompiled selfcompiled allthow the ones i compiled seem to crash a bit less. server has 1.8ghz cpu 2gig ram 128meg vid id rule out not able to handle it i can boot 500 zones if i wanted they wont stay up thow cus they crash even with 25 up.
[06.18. - 06:25:29] A null Mob object was passed to Client::Attack() for evaluation!
[06.18. - 23:30:15] Ghosting client:
[06.19. - 03:04:11] No book to send, (LONSwitchClaim)
[06.19. - 17:11:42] Zoning Aleraun: Rules prevent this char from zoning into 'draniksscar'
[06.19. - 17:11:42] Zone 302 is not available because target wasn't found or character insufficent level
[06.19. - 17:11:42] Zoning Aleraun: Invalid unsolicited zone request to zone id '202'.
[06.20. - 00:20:32] HandlePacket() Opcode error: Unexpected packet during CLIENT_CONNECTING: opcode: OP_BazaarSearch (#321 eq=0x0000),
size: 20
[06.20. - 00:20:32] HandlePacket() Opcode error: Unexpected packet during CLIENT_CONNECTING: opcode: OP_Unknown (#0 eq=0x0000), size: 4
[06.20. - 00:29:49] HandlePacket() Opcode error: Unexpected packet during CLIENT_CONNECTING: opcode: OP_BazaarSearch (#321 eq=0x0000),
size: 20
[06.20. - 00:29:49] HandlePacket() Opcode error: Unexpected packet during CLIENT_CONNECTING: opcode: OP_Unknown (#0 eq=0x0000), size: 4
[06.20. - 08:07:49] No book to send, (MeleeSkillLearn)
[06.20. - 08:08:17] No book to send, (MeleeSkillLearn)
[06.20. - 11:45:23] HandlePacket() Opcode error: Unexpected packet during CLIENT_CONNECTING: opcode: OP_BazaarSearch (#321 eq=0x0000),
size: 20
[06.20. - 11:45:23] HandlePacket() Opcode error: Unexpected packet during CLIENT_CONNECTING: opcode: OP_Unknown (#0 eq=0x0000), size: 4
[06.20. - 12:21:02] HandlePacket() Opcode error: Unexpected packet during CLIENT_CONNECTING: opcode: OP_BazaarSearch (#321 eq=0x0000),
size: 20
[06.20. - 12:21:02] HandlePacket() Opcode error: Unexpected packet during CLIENT_CONNECTING: opcode: OP_Unknown (#0 eq=0x0000), size: 4
[06.16. - 17:25:13] No book to send, (LONSwitchClaim)
[06.16. - 17:58:42] GetAuth() returned false kicking client
[06.16. - 19:21:43] HandlePacket() Opcode error: Unexpected packet during CLIENT_CONNECTING: opcode: OP_LFPCommand (#340 eq=0x0000),
size: 84
[06.16. - 19:50:08] No book to send, (LONSwitchClaim)
[06.18. - 09:20:42] Ghosting client:
[06.18. - 09:21:16] HandlePacket() Opcode error: Unexpected packet during CLIENT_CONNECTING: opcode: OP_CrashDump (#276 eq=0x0000),
size: 32328
[06.18. - 03:52:53] A null Mob object was passed to NPC::Attack() for evaluation!
[06.18. - 04:10:40] Ghosting client:
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Inventory::_PutItem: Invalid slot_id specified (2531)
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Warning: Invalid slot_id for item in shared bank inventory: charid=1128, item_id=65114, slot_id=2531
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Inventory::_PutItem: Invalid slot_id specified (2532)
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Warning: Invalid slot_id for item in shared bank inventory: charid=1128, item_id=65114, slot_id=2532
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Inventory::_PutItem: Invalid slot_id specified (2533)
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Warning: Invalid slot_id for item in shared bank inventory: charid=1128, item_id=5317, slot_id=2533
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Inventory::_PutItem: Invalid slot_id specified (2541)
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Warning: Invalid slot_id for item in shared bank inventory: charid=1128, item_id=2117, slot_id=2541
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Inventory::_PutItem: Invalid slot_id specified (2542)
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Warning: Invalid slot_id for item in shared bank inventory: charid=1128, item_id=1497, slot_id=2542
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Inventory::_PutItem: Invalid slot_id specified (2543)
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Warning: Invalid slot_id for item in shared bank inventory: charid=1128, item_id=3055, slot_id=2543
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Inventory::_PutItem: Invalid slot_id specified (2544)
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Warning: Invalid slot_id for item in shared bank inventory: charid=1128, item_id=1001, slot_id=2544
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Inventory::_PutItem: Invalid slot_id specified (2545)
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Warning: Invalid slot_id for item in shared bank inventory: charid=1128, item_id=1002, slot_id=2545
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Inventory::_PutItem: Invalid slot_id specified (2546)
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Warning: Invalid slot_id for item in shared bank inventory: charid=1128, item_id=1004, slot_id=2546
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Inventory::_PutItem: Invalid slot_id specified (2547)
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Warning: Invalid slot_id for item in shared bank inventory: charid=1128, item_id=30122, slot_id=2547
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Inventory::_PutItem: Invalid slot_id specified (2548)
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Warning: Invalid slot_id for item in shared bank inventory: charid=1128, item_id=25613, slot_id=2548
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Inventory::_PutItem: Invalid slot_id specified (2549)
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Warning: Invalid slot_id for item in shared bank inventory: charid=1128, item_id=3109, slot_id=2549
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Inventory::_PutItem: Invalid slot_id specified (2550)
[06.18. - 05:26:45] Warning: Invalid slot_id for item in shared bank inventory: charid=1128, item_id=3109, slot_id=2550
[06.21. - 16:29:07] Possible Forage: 14913 with a 100 chance
06.18. - 17:52:29] HandlePacket() Opcode error: Unexpected packet during CLIENT_CONNECTING: opcode: OP_BazaarSearch (#321 eq=0x0000),
size: 20
[06.18. - 17:52:29] HandlePacket() Opcode error: Unexpected packet during CLIENT_CONNECTING: opcode: OP_Unknown (#0 eq=0x0000), size: 4
[06.18. - 18:13:24] HandlePacket() Opcode error: Unexpected packet during CLIENT_CONNECTING: opcode: OP_BazaarSearch (#321 eq=0x0000),
size: 20
[06.18. - 18:13:24] HandlePacket() Opcode error: Unexpected packet during CLIENT_CONNECTING: opcode: OP_Unknown (#0 eq=0x0000), size: 4
[06.20. - 14:00:22] Zoning Drakkul: Rules prevent this char from zoning into 'draniksscar'
[06.20. - 14:00:22] Zone 302 is not available because target wasn't found or character insufficent level
[06.20. - 14:00:23] Zoning Drakkul: Invalid unsolicited zone request to zone id '202'.
[06.18. - 04:32:47] Zoning Monmo: Rules prevent this char from zoning into 'tutorial'
[06.18. - 04:32:47] Zone 183 is not available because target wasn't found or character insufficent level
[06.18. - 04:32:47] Zoning Monmo: Invalid unsolicited zone request to zone id '102'.
[06.18. - 17:45:53] No book to send, (CHRMNoBuffs)
[06.19. - 00:35:41] Ghosting client:
[06.20. - 00:42:44] A null Mob object was passed to Client::Attack() for evaluation!
[06.20. - 00:58:22] No book to send, (MeleeSkillLearn)
[06.20. - 07:09:58] A null Mob object was passed to Client::Attack() for evaluation!
[06.20. - 07:47:52] No book to send, (LONSwitchClaim)
[06.20. - 07:57:22] Zoning Aleraun: Rules prevent this char from zoning into 'draniksscar'
[06.20. - 07:57:22] Zone 302 is not available because target wasn't found or character insufficent level
[06.20. - 07:57:22] Zoning Aleraun: Invalid unsolicited zone request to zone id '202'.
[06.20. - 08:07:42] A null Mob object was passed to Client::Attack() for evaluation!
trevius
06-22-2008, 04:14 AM
None of those errors look to be zone crash related. Maybe you are looking at the wrong log file. I don't run my server on windows anymore, so I don't know which one you want for sure.
Is it 1 particular zone that is crashing, or all of them? If it is just a couple of zones, it could be something set wrong with a quest or some other database issue you are having. Otherwise, you should make certain that your players don't have items that have unknown focus effects. That will crash zones every time. You could download the spells file from live (there are links directly to that file somewhere in these forums) and use that for your server spell file in your eqemu directory. Then, if the crashes stop, you will know that it is related to this focus effect issue since those are defined in the spells file.
Other than that, you might want to mention anything you have done that might be considered out of the ordinary when creating your server.
Aramid
06-22-2008, 04:43 AM
I host both EQEmu and WOWemu from our deadicated server if anyone wants to play you can make a account here Account Manger. There are shared forums on the Main Site and other general stuff. There is a server admin support page if you need to contact a admin also.
Possibly your expecting too much from your server?
trevius
06-22-2008, 06:18 AM
Oh ya, didn't even think about that... If you are running both the WoWemu and EQEmu from the same PC, you are most likely going to have some sort of issue. As long as the ports don't overlap, you should be ok in that aspect. But, running both at once is bound to cause performance issues. Try shutting down the WoWemu server and see if that makes a difference on your zone crashing. I bet it will.
opyrus
06-23-2008, 09:27 AM
with everything running i use 0-5%cpu and like 1 gig of my 2 gig of ram and this has been happening sence i started running eqemu. its not just one zone but it seems to happen mostly around high lvl players usualy as there changing zones. wowemu runs perfectly useing 100meg of ram total and then theres eqemu running like 25 zones useing like 800meg of ram crashing like a mofo. its definatly player related it seems like sertan players crash more then others do.
opyrus
06-23-2008, 09:34 AM
its definatly not performance related i would have noticed long ago im not new to computers..... unless 10 years tech work is "new" and knowing visual basic and c++ programming. i realy hate the stupid 5 min edit timer.....
ChaosSlayer
06-23-2008, 06:42 PM
well consider the posability that the concurent running of wow and eq is the source of the problem...
which btw don't surprise me since wow is the source of all evil :grin:
trevius
06-23-2008, 06:50 PM
If it isn't related to running bother server on the same box (which it most likely is), then the only other thing I can think of is that you might not have enough ports set to be forwarded on your router. If you have 25 dynamic zones setup to run, you will want MUCH more than 25 ports to be forwarded. I run 25 zones and have 100 ports forwarded for it (7000-7100) and it works perfectly.
The problem is in the way new zones are started. If you set the number of ports being forwarded to the same as the number of zones you boot up, then if 1 zone crashes, almost every zone after that that tries to start will crash as well. This is because it tries to use the next available port that is higher than the highest in use. If you have all of them used up, then it won't be able to load another dynamic zone.
This might not be your issue, but it is all I can think of atm.
Angelox
06-23-2008, 07:08 PM
its definatly not performance related i would have noticed long ago im not new to computers..... unless 10 years tech work is "new" and knowing visual basic and c++ programming. i realy hate the stupid 5 min edit timer.....
I got a question for ya; how come you can bash, insult, use foul language on the members here, then have final word and close the thread?
trevius
06-23-2008, 07:47 PM
Ya, I didn't see the updates to that thread until now after it has been closed. If I had known your server was being ran on a laptop, I would have mentioned that it could be a possible reason for your zone instability. Sure, laptops can have similar stats to PCs, but due to them being made especially to be compact, you will never get the same performance from a laptop that you will with a PC of similar stats. Laptops just aren't made for hosting servers with anymore than minimum usage. I am sure they can handle a small load perfectly fine, but expecting them to handle anything of significance will most likely result in issues.
I still get zone crashes on my server from time to time and it's stats are far greater than your laptop. Though, I also have quite a few more players on my server, but still the CPU hardly ever breaks 25% utilization and the RAM normally doesn't go much over 1GB (out of the 3GBs I have).
So, even though your stats might seem ok and it doesn't seem to be running a heavy load, apparently other things can come into play and cause zone crashes.
I don't think the comments you made in the closed thread were warranted at all. IMO, you should take a bit to cool down and relax. I think you were reading the other posts there as an attack on you or your server, but I don't see that when reading them myself. It didn't start to get nasty until you started calling names. There is no need for drama of any sort. I am not saying you are fully to blame, but just suggesting to try to keep things civil if at all possible.
And as for making a batch file to switch between servers, it isn't involved at all. And, it would make 1 simple click from the desktop to play whichever server you want (but different icons for each).
It would be something like these 2 files to switch between servers:
servera.bat
rename realmlist.wtf realmlist2.wtf
rename realmlist1.wtf realmlist.wtf
wow.exe (or whatever the file name is to start wow)
serverb.bat
rename realmlist.wtf realmlist1.wtf
rename realmlist2.wtf realmlist.wtf
wow.exe (or whatever the file name is to start wow)
Takes about 1 minute to write them and then no more renaming or dragging or whatever. If you wanted to use more servers than just 2, that could be done as well, but it would have to be slightly different.
ChaosSlayer
06-23-2008, 08:20 PM
i won't even use laptop to play anything more serios than "worms"....
laptops are nothing more but large electronic notepads - regardless their stats
trevius
06-23-2008, 08:35 PM
IMO, laptops are to PCs what PCs are to actual Servers when it comes to any sort of hosting. A real server box is going to be optimized for fast drive access and probably have multiple drives setup in RAID and might even be in a cluster of servers. They are built for stability and normally run an OS specifically for servers. A home PC is decent for hosting some stuff, but in comparison to an actual server, they won't get quite as good of performance and will have a few more stability issues. This is probably partially due to the operating system that is being used as well as the different hardware architecture. A laptop is always going to perform worse than a PC or Server unless it has considerably better stats and is running the right OS and has really good hardware and good tweaks to make it perform well.
I don't think the OS that the laptop is running was even mentioned yet. If it is Vista, then there are bound to be some issues running a server with that. I know plenty of people have had issues with Vista and running a server. To help with stability, you might want to consider Linux. It won't make up for the hardware on the laptop, but it should definitely help in the OS department. Though, I don't think the WoW Emu server runs on Linux, though I wouldn't be surprised if there was a version that can.
xxarthurxx
06-23-2008, 08:35 PM
i won't even use laptop to play anything more serios than "worms"....
laptops are nothing more but large electronic notepads - regardless their stats
Well, id say thats a very ignorant statement, for 1 a laptop can easily run things a tower pc can and you even have a short supply of built in backup power if the electricty goes out. I run my server from a laptop with linux installed and it runs perfectly. Laptops are nothing like they were 5 years ago, get with the times sir.
trevius
06-23-2008, 08:42 PM
His laptop is a 1.8Ghz, so it just might be from almost 5 years ago (or at least 3) :P
Yes, they can be powerful enough now to run most things, but they simply weren't designed for hosting servers.
I imagine your laptop should be fine for hosting your server, but you might start noticing performance issues once your player numbers start to rise.
Of course, the right tweaks in the right places might help that considerably. Many laptops have settings enabled to reduce performance to conserve battery life. Most of these can be disabled to always be max performance, but it might be something worth checking into. But, even with the best tweaks, I still don't think a laptop will perform as good as a PC and won't come close to an actual server PC.
LordRathgil
06-23-2008, 08:51 PM
Ok all this talk about power outages is jsut useless any internet connection you have will require power so thats a moot point no power=no cable or dsl mode = no server reguardless of the fact the notebook itself has a battery simple as that.
Laptops are NOT designed to run for extended periods of time, I have 3 laptops and 4 desktops one of each is brand new and the desktops with the same stats that the laptops have run far better and can run far more software then the notebook ever could.
So its not a matter of getting with the times, its a matter of the technology doing things it was never designed nor intended for.
Read your notebook manuals they all plainly state not to keep them running for extended periods. and again stop talking about the power outage issue because it doesnt matter that the notebook has a battery without power to the modem and router the server wont be up anyway
trevius is correct a notebook will never perform as well as a pc a pc will never perform as well as a real server
xxarthurxx
06-23-2008, 09:01 PM
I dunno so far ive encountered no problems at all, and yes im sure when my server starts caping 100 if ever like trevs server ill look into upgrades, but for now all is well.
trevius
06-23-2008, 09:16 PM
and again stop talking about the power outage issue because it doesnt matter that the notebook has a battery without power to the modem and router the server wont be up anyway
The battery backup on a laptop is a good feature for the server to have since it will save your database or OS from getting corrupted if there is a quick power hit or if the power goes completely out.
Also, in most cases, the power will only flicker and once it comes back on, the modem and router should both restart. This may allow the server to restore on it's own, but most of the time if I have this happen, it requires me to restart the server for my server to pop up on the server list again. But, if you have remote access to your laptop, you could restart your server remotely, which would be very useful if you are away from home for an extended period of time. I was on vacation the last week and a half and while I was gone my power flickered and shut off my server PC. I had to get a relative to go over and power it back on. This wouldn't have been required if I was running on a laptop.
Of course, the ideal setup would be to use a battery backup system such as a UPS. I plan to add one soon and will have the server, router and modem all on it. This way, a short power hit won't effect my server at all, but if it goes out for an extended period of time (longer than 10 mins), the server will still go down until it can be powered back on manually. This would be pretty rare though. But, at least the UPS will shut the server down gracefully so there isn't a sudden crash that could corrupt my database or MySQL (which I have had happen and it can be nasty).
opyrus
06-23-2008, 09:22 PM
what ever "my shit laptop" can run all zones in static and has i just dont like useing all that ram. it dident crash as much when i had it setup like that eather i should proly put it back like that its easyer to track down what zone crashed and how. it also ran rappelz epic 4 fine and oblivion and many other games.
opyrus
06-23-2008, 09:36 PM
Laptop
Component Details Subscore Base score
Processor AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-34 3.7 2.4
Determined by lowest subscore
Memory (RAM) 2.00 GB 4.1
Graphics ATI MOBILITY RADEON Xpress 200 Series 2.4
Gaming graphics 891 MB Total available graphics memory 3.0
Primary hard disk 59GB Free (93GB Total) 4.2
Windows Vista (TM) Ultimate
System
Manufacturer Hewlett-Packard
Model Pavilion dv5000 (EZ524UA#ABA)
Total amount of system memory 2.00 GB RAM
System type 32-bit operating system
Number of processor cores 1
64-bit capable Yes
Storage
Total size of hard disk(s) 93 GB
Disk partition (C) 59 GB Free (93 GB Total)
Media drive (D) CD/DVD
Graphics
Display adapter type ATI MOBILITY RADEON Xpress 200 Series
Total available graphics memory 891 MB
Dedicated graphics memory 128 MB
Dedicated system memory 0 MB
Shared system memory 763 MB
Display adapter driver version 8.31.100.32
Primary monitor resolution 1280x800
DirectX version DirectX 9.0 or better
Network
Network Adapter Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC
Network Adapter Microsoft Tun Miniport Adapter
opyrus
06-23-2008, 09:41 PM
Main PC
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+ 3.6 3.6
Determined by lowest subscore
Memory (RAM) 1.50 GB 4.5
Graphics Radeon X1650 Series 4.3
Gaming graphics 575 MB Total available graphics memory 4.8
Primary hard disk 69GB Free (112GB Total) 5.1
Windows Vista (TM) Ultimate
System
Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Model A7N8X2.0
Total amount of system memory 1.50 GB RAM
System type 32-bit operating system
Number of processor cores 1
64-bit capable No
Storage
Total size of hard disk(s) 345 GB
Disk partition (C) 69 GB Free (112 GB Total)
Disk partition (D) 78 GB Free (233 GB Total)
Media drive (E) CD/DVD
Graphics
Display adapter type Radeon X1650 Series
Total available graphics memory 575 MB
Dedicated graphics memory 512 MB
Dedicated system memory 0 MB
Shared system memory 63 MB
Display adapter driver version 8.501.0.0
Primary monitor resolution 1280x1024
DirectX version DirectX 9.0 or better
Network
Network Adapter NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller
Network Adapter Microsoft Tun Miniport Adapter
Network Adapter 3Com 3C920B-EMB Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller
LordRathgil
06-23-2008, 09:42 PM
if you had a clue youd know vista is using half of your ram just to run by itself genius read the minimum requirements for vista ultimate... 1 gig of ram that brings your 2 gigs down to 1 gig right there... but i shouldnt reply further because youll just close the tread like a little kid.
BTW that laptop is atleast 3 years old ( I know cause i have a turion 64 x2 model thats 3 years old.
LordRathgil
06-23-2008, 09:44 PM
and your pc is even worse it shouldnt even be running vista ultimate, you really should try researching system requirements
opyrus
06-23-2008, 09:44 PM
vista dont use more then 256meg it self if you turn all the bull shit off.
opyrus
06-23-2008, 09:46 PM
requirements for vista from microsoft
1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
1 GB of system memory
40 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space
Support for DirectX 9 graphics with:
WDDM Driver
128 MB of graphics memory (minimum)
Pixel Shader 2.0 in hardware
32 bits per pixel
DVD-ROM drive
Audio Output
Internet access (fees may apply)
LordRathgil
06-23-2008, 09:51 PM
yeah that leaves 512 for everything else heck eq alone takes 300 megs just to load the client lmao like i said your pretty clueless.
now for the laptop, that leaves 1 gig to run both game servers, mysql , your webserver and any other software you happen to be running, ontop of that vista is notoriously slow ( hence why your laptop more then likely came iwth vista home basic or premium installed like everyone elses)
BTW vista alone will also use ALL your video ram by itself since youhave a 128 meg card... like i said debate when you have a clue
LordRathgil
06-23-2008, 09:52 PM
I run vista, xp, redhat enterprise, fedora core wind server 2k3 and 2k8 and yes vista with everything turned off BARE minimum install of ultimate will still take 1 gig of ram for the os reguardless of what is turned on or off, read a book on memory allocation of windows operating systems and then come back and debate with a programmer
opyrus
06-23-2008, 09:53 PM
do you need a screen shot of my task manager lmao.
LordRathgil
06-23-2008, 09:58 PM
what precisly do you think "MINIMUM SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS"
Let me explain it to you that means that is what is required to run the bare minimum version of the given program, if it says 1 gig then thats precisly what a minimum install will dedicated for its use.
Windows takes what it needs and keeps it dedicated for operating system functions.
All the software running might use 256 megs of ram but windows will ALWAYS keep the one gig allocated to itself to ensure the os can actually RUN
LordRathgil
06-23-2008, 10:00 PM
however, I think you just want to advertise and get publicity for yourserver and get your post count up so I wont be responding anymore, its obvious your a child and I have better things to do then argue with someone who is at best 14 years old
trevius
06-23-2008, 10:03 PM
I had a feeling you were running Vista. That is probably your biggest problem right there. Not because of the resource hogging that it does (which probably isn't helping), but because the emulator wasn't designed for Vista. Everyone I have heard of running the emulator on Vista has been plagued with problems. I highly suggest you try Windows XP if you are serious about running an emulator server and don't want to go to Linux since you are running a WoW Emu server as well.
Either way, it looks like there is quite a list of reasons for your zone instability issues. If you run on the recommended setup, it would perform much better.
PC with at least 1GB of RAM running Windows XP (or even better, Linux). And running on a wired LAN instead of Wireless will help connection issues considerably (I don't know if you are running wireless, but just stating that fact).
In other words, the original post about making the emulator crash less often isn't really relavant if you run it on the right system. This is all related to your particular setup and not the emu itself. That isn't to say that the emulator couldn't use improvements. It would be nice if it was fully compatible and more stable on any system, but without a large team working to get it that way, it isn't likely to happen soon.
And again, you should adjust your attitude a bit IMO. There really is no need for getting upset. No one ever said you have a shit laptop, but we are stating the facts and actually trying to give you real information about why you are seeing the issues you are. Would you rather we all lie and say your server setup is godly and that the emulator sucks ass at stability? I for one am trying to help you with good information, so being rude is uncalled for.
As for the other dispute going on with you and LordRathgil, it seems like you started that one, but he definitely could be taking the high road and just ignoring your comments.
I hate seeing threads get locked over stupid things like this. Especially if they have good information in them. Maybe someone else running their server on a laptop in the future will find this thread and get some good info out of it, but it is too bad they will have to see the drama as well. Getting a thread closed almost always sucks, because it doesn't allow issues to get resolved fully without starting a new one.
opyrus
06-23-2008, 10:08 PM
naw he started it with a PM..............
opyrus
06-23-2008, 10:11 PM
but i have considered puting linux back on the laptop wouldent be the first time. eqemu and wowemu will both run fine in linux id just have to dump both databases and the website and move it all over.
LordRathgil
06-23-2008, 10:14 PM
scuse me but you told me ....
you need to just shut your stupid face you dont know shit about shit the laptop is perfectly fine ive had 30 players on b4 with no lag and just cus its a laptop dont mean i take it with me i have 8 computers. its been running as a server for over a year and its still fine the laptop controls eqemu wowemu my website and mysql and its got lotz to spare.
soon as you insulted me you got the pm because thats the place for conflict not on the public forums
opyrus
06-23-2008, 10:17 PM
you started it when you PM thinking i was trying keep my thred at the top of the list.
cavedude
06-23-2008, 10:21 PM
Take it to PM if you're going to flame. Thread locked.
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