Order of Hasson Review

[Boo]

I started playing on a server called Order of Hasson, it was supposed to be a LEGIT progression server, but basically once we would start killing bosses, such as Vindi and AoW, they would appear the next day in the nexus ( the player hub ) in full gear from what we had killed, when the bosses were down and impossible to kill. I've also witnessed myself the head GM's Girlfriend, Tissi, spawn mobs, skip trash by using #goto and in Kunark she had Velious gear on, this isn't an attempt to trash the server but i'm just letting anyone who is about to play on there know what to be ready for.



on behalf on Evolutia / Havoc Ex-players of Order of Hasson

[So_1337]

/shrug. I've pointed out numerous times where you guys are wrong, and really don't care anymore. Server will be quieter without your whining.

Doesn't say much when you cry foul becase you aren't getting Skyshrine quest armor drops from the North wing of Veeshan and that we have them. (Hint: They drop from the East wing. Kael armor drops are from the West. North is bosses only for armor.)

Post what you like. The people we care about are still playing, so that says something. Good luck on another server, and please don't come back. Won't be posting in this thread again, so vent here if it makes you feel better.

[cage17]

I started playing on a server called Order of Hasson, it was supposed to be a LEGIT progression server, but basically once we would start killing bosses, such as Vindi and AoW, they would appear the next day in the nexus ( the player hub ) in full gear from what we had killed, when the bosses were down and impossible to kill. I've also witnessed myself the head GM's Girlfriend, Tissi, spawn mobs, skip trash by using #goto and in Kunark she had Velious gear on, this isn't an attempt to trash the server but i'm just letting anyone who is about to play on there know what to be ready for.



on behalf on Evolutia / Havoc Ex-players of Order of Hasson

Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Anymore of the constant whining from your guild and we would have had to remake the server anyways.

"Why did we clear most of north wing and not get armor drops?"
"Why did I not get my dwarf legs when I gave them to the dragon guy on mistake? What do you mean I turned it into the wrong guy? Give me the legs anyways!"
"I demand you unlock all of the AAs since I'm maxed out!"
"I demand you reset X Y and Z mob to the following health % because of a crash"
"I demand you leave the zone because you're lagging our guilds raid"

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Don’t be so full of yourself. Your entire guild was a nuisance to the server; Havoc insulted anyone who did not match their ridiculous power leveling view, and were downright rude to everyone else on the server.

I for one am thrilled you're leaving, go annoy another "free" server. Your sense of entitlement was more than anyone on our server could handle.

-Burning

Disclaimer: My Words are my Own

[xexllama]

Ha,

What a fun post! Well let me clear up a few of these discrepancies...

1) We don't care about the armor quest loot, we had better, since oh that's right we actually killed mobs. We didn't wipe on Trakanon with a full group and 4 GM characters. In fact we could still do Trakanon with just 4 people when you still wiped.

2) The reason we left, was due to the fact Tissi and just Tissi, summoned herself gear. Where as...we earned everything we got, we farmed, we leveled and well, we showed an infinite amount of basic raiding skill then any one person in your guild could muster (without being a gm).

3) We just found it displeasing that Tissi was able to summon herself gear, and help you guys along abusing her GM powers, while we did everything legit. It was fun though seeing Trakanon purposely spawned, along with other numerous other mobs.

Hey have fun, were gone and I just looked and over 1/2 the OOH has gone with us. Enjoy leveling and catching up to what we were doing yesterday...2 weeks from now.

Toodles!

[cage17]

Ha,

What a fun post! Well let me clear up a few of these discrepancies...

1) We don't care about the armor quest loot, we had better, since oh that's right we actually killed mobs. We didn't wipe on Trakanon with a full group and 4 GM characters. In fact we could still do Trakanon with just 4 people when you still wiped.

2) The reason we left, was due to the fact Tissi and just Tissi, summoned herself gear. Where as...we earned everything we got, we farmed, we leveled and well, we showed an infinite amount of basic raiding skill then any one person in your guild could muster (without being a gm).

3) We just found it displeasing that Tissi was able to summon herself gear, and help you guys along abusing her GM powers, while we did everything legit. It was fun though seeing Trakanon purposely spawned, along with other numerous other mobs.

Hey have fun, were gone and I just looked and over 1/2 the OOH has gone with us. Enjoy leveling and catching up to what we were doing yesterday...2 weeks from now.

Toodles!

As expected, here come the kiddies!

1) I could care less if you're soloing Trakanon. It's a progression server for fun. We honestly wouldnt care if we were still in Kunark 6 months from now. Moreover, the fact that we wipe with 4 GM characters in our group should tell you something, though I won't help you with that.

2) Again, don't care about your "our guild rox your guild" bullshit -- nor your "raiding skill" (haha oh boy!...)
Tissi didn't summon herself stuff, she put in the time and effort of farming it. Just because you think certain things should drop in places they dont isn't our problem.

3) 2 & 3 are the same thing, I'm not repeating myself.

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Oh we will have fun in fact, it'll be much more peaceful without a bunch of bored teenagers on our server.

Go annoy the other servers now, thanks. =)

[xexllama]

I'm fairly certain my post was both fairly well written and easy to read.

I'm also certain you don't know how old I am, and I'm only stating facts, there is not one piece of fiction in my above post.

But thank you for posting a reply, that only enhances my point of view, and only ultimately shows your lack of common sense and nonsensical attitude.

Toodles!

p.s. Tissi has velious loot when we were still in Kunark, getting loot from an un-opened expansion must be hard! =)

[cage17]

I'm fairly certain my post was both fairly well written and easy to read.

I'm also certain you don't know how old I am, and I'm only stating facts, there is not one piece of fiction in my above post.

But thank you for posting a reply, that only enhances my point of view, and only ultimately shows your lack of common sense and nonsensical attitude.

Toodles!

p.s. Tissi has velious loot when we were still in Kunark, getting loot from an un-opened expansion must be hard! =)

Your chronological age doesn't matter to me; you can be 35 and act like a 12 year old. Your attitude and that of most of your guild is what matters. Havoc was offensive and rude, and you guys just saved us the time of remaking this server anyways; so thanks for that! =)

I'm not going to drop names unless you want me to, but the ridiculous sense of entitlement you had for a free EQ server is beyond hilarious, and I'm fairly certain no GM in all of PEQ would put up with it.

The final mistake you're making is thinking you're at all important to us or the server. This is the third incarnation of our server, you're not needed or required for us to play and have a great time. Our population never exceeded 12 characters last time around, and it was a blast.

Your witch hunt for Tissi would be more amusing if you hadn't of already resorted to just making up lies at this point. I'm not sure what your goal is, but stop trying to justify your meaningless whining. Of course, that's what Havoc is best at =)

Have fun wherever you go next, I'm sure the next poor server will love you guys demanding it's inhabitants leave whatever zone you occupy.

[Boo]

we weren't rude at all, and if you think were lying theres a screenie of green admitting that tissi summons items, dunno what your flaming for, its kinda immature.

[cage17]

we weren't rude at all, and if you think were lying theres a screenie of green admitting that tissi summons items, dunno what your flaming for, its kinda immature.

Not sure which server you played on, but Havoc was extremely rude. Just goes to show you that your idea of civility and ours do not mix.

Don't know what I'm flaming for? What an odd question to ask, since you started this thread. Did you expect us to not reply?

Immature is asking people who own the server you play on to leave the zone. "Please leave, we are trying to kill in North ToV" when we were in the East Wing.

Immature is whining everytime you dont get what you want. "Server lost power, we demand you reset Vyemm to 23% and refund our lost experience"

Immature is complaining that we won't give item refunds because you turn stuff in the wrong place. "What do you mean I turned in the Dwarf armor to the dragons? I dont care give me the item anyways"

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Stop trying to play this as you guys taking the moral high road, you were a plague on the OOH server, and drove all of us crazy, I'm glad you're gone =)

[Boo]

1. yea i thought you'd reply, but you're questioning our age while flaming us is a tad ironic.

2. we asked you to leave, because we were there first and once you all came in the zone started spiking very very badly.

3. you all gated, and the second your last person was out the whole server crashed, and there were no problems after that no lag spikes, so a thunder storm? i think not.

4. i can't speak for that, don't know who it was, it obviously wasn't me.

5. thank you for ignoring the screenshot comment.

[Boo]

oh and btw, we were such a plague, thats why the whole server minus you guys left with us.

[So_1337]

Okay, I wasn't going to post, but you're going a little too far claiming you were sabotaged. Please get over yourselves.

Storms were rolling through town last night, and hard. The power went out at my apartment (in Cincinnati) and then came back on about four minutes later. I remotely checked the server (also in Cincinnati!) and it had just rebooted. I went out of my way to bring it back up for you all once all the network services loaded and it was back up, and all I heard was bitching. I don't control the weather or the local power grid. If you can't acknowledge even that, do us a favor and go host your own server so no one else has to endure your selfish, snobby attitudes.

I have a mind to post login server IDs and account names here, just to save other server admins the hassle of dealing with you all. That, or I hope you wind up with someone a lot less patient than myself, who shows you how big of an asshole they can be if they were actually trying to screw you.

And, as a rule, most of "us" play nights. We actually have jobs, and lives. For most of us, this is something we do in our spare time. I'm sorry you have such an abundance of it that you have time to find flaw with everything that is provided for you free of charge. That withstanding, I'm counting 23 online right now aside from people I actually know. Not bad for 5 PM on a Monday. Go away, you will not be missed.

[Boo]

thank you for ignoring the screenshot comment.

[cage17]

1. yea i thought you'd reply, but you're questioning our age while flaming us is a tad ironic.

2. we asked you to leave, because we were there first and once you all came in the zone started spiking very very badly.

3. you all gated, and the second your last person was out the whole server crashed, and there were no problems after that no lag spikes, so a thunder storm? i think not.

4. i can't speak for that, don't know who it was, it obviously wasn't me.

5. thank you for ignoring the screenshot comment.

1) Do you even know the definition of irony? Moreover I wasn't questioning your age, I was asserting it. You all act like children when you don't get your way, and it was annoying. All of these pathetic excuses for posts proves it.

2) Again, good luck doing that on other servers. Funny enough we weren’t getting lag spikes!

3) I could care less if you believe us, but Ohio (where the server is located) got nailed big time last night, you can verify this on any weather network. Besides, we have zero obligation to keep the FREE server running for you on a whim.

5) No problem!

6) (since you made another post): You must've missed my previous posts where I said we played without outside interference just fine the last two times.

Everyone loves to think they're important and have an effect on the server. You're not important, and you don't affect anything by leaving.

You could have left with some dignity but you felt self-righteous enough to come post the awesome evils of our server here on some virtual soapbox, as expected of most random internet kiddies.

If you were truly as mature and civil as you keep boasting, you'd have simply packed up and left. Instead we get entertained by posts that degrade to "lol you wipe on trak and we are better than you"

This is almost as good as Live EQ was back in the day =)

[Boo]

I never said anything about your ingame skill, i've honestly never seen you as a player raid, but i know that the 2 warders were down, because the script wasnt working for tukaara or something similiar, when thats the only warder we killed and his script worked fine, but oh well, heres your screenshot, i'm done, good luck with your server.

http://i33.tinypic.com/33xc5ja.jpg

[cage17]

You have vindicated your upstanding guild from our horrible and tyrannical dictatorship!

You were truly victims in this matter. Now stay out and go drive the rest of the PEQ player base insane with your endless complaining. =)

[So_1337]

As I explained, Tukaraak's script didn't work fine. It didn't shout across all zones when he died for the first time. I was in there today testing why. Found out I'd put the custom scripts in for three of the four, just not his. So I killed him to get it written to the database (so it wouldn't fire and give a false positive next time). During the course of my testing, I'd #damaged Ventani to death since she was working, as a test. I simply forgot to force a repop before I left. I made this clear to you when we spoke, and rectified it immediately. If you have such a problem taking me at my word when it's been so solid, I really don't care to have you here anyway.

As for the screenshot, so? The Velious gear you keep bringing up are Velium Fire Wedding Rings. They're available on a merchant in Plane of Knowledge, which was opened in the early days of the server. (Please check any PEQ database, if you're aware of how. You don't seem content to take me at my word, so verify it yourself.) Everyone had access. This was before Kunark, even. Even then, as soon as I saw them on her, we went and got some Adamantite Bands out of Guk just to not raise a fuss. I find that a lot more forgivable than a whole guild of people farming Droga to hell and back without ever mentioning to me that it's the revamped version.

I kept her honest like I kept you honest with the Droga gear. And all I ever got from you guys was a load of complaining for it. I'd much rather do this for people who appreciate it, and it seems there's no shortage of those now. Had a few tells already thanking me for kicking you guys off the server, and I'm having to explain it wasn't my doing =P

Ah well. Get over it, go have fun somewhere else.

[cage17]

Don't bother man, our server is dead without Havoc. They told us so themselves, there's no one left except us!! ...and the other 20+ people currently logged in, but we are supposed to not count them, or something.

Our poor server! = (

[trevius]

I have a mind to post login server IDs and account names here, just to save other server admins the hassle of dealing with you all. That, or I hope you wind up with someone a lot less patient than myself, who shows you how big of an asshole they can be if they were actually trying to screw you.

If you don't feel comfortable posting them, would you please PM them to me at least?

I have seen So_1337 be nothing but helpful on these forums and he seems to have great character. I trust his judgment and for all of the work Server Admins put in for the community to enjoy, I think some just don't grasp the amount of work it takes. Making demands and being just plain rude doesn't fly on my server. Overall, I think my server is a very nice and thankful player-base.

If the accounts already exist on my server, I won't ban them flat out if you give them to me. But, they won't be getting any warnings if I start getting reports on them or having issues with them. Normally I try to give 1 warning to players before I consider banning them. About 99% of the time, that clears up any issues. The other 1% of the time, I just have to ban the offending account(s).

Mainly, I just like to know who to watch out for. There are some problem players that tend to jump from server to server, and it would be nice if we could all avoid those types of players right off the bat.

I am not trying to get involved in this dispute in any way. But, if I was having issues with a player on my server, I would hope that other admins would heed my warnings if I went as far as to post them (which I have in only 1 case so far).

[xexllama]

A lot of people were confused with some of the people Green is referring too.

Example: a few members of the guild Havoc were banned, when they weren't in the dispute at all.

Personally my only issue was hell, Tissi can summon anything and everything, as long as progression wasn't tampered with. But as soon as progression was tampered, I left the server. I was alerted today and did so, then I expressed my opinions. If that makes me a troublesome person, I'll personally PM you my IDs.

My last .02, Later

[xXxSQUALxXx]

I wasn't on so I don't really understand... Why did the entire guild get banned?

Those "rude" things that were mentioned were presented entirely out of context. Most of them were said in jest and worded for that fact to be apparent.

I believe I would be the one who supposedly said "I demand you unlock all of the AAs since I'm maxed out!" When all I did was state that I was running out of things to spend my AA's on and hoped very much they would open level 61 with one of the following expansions. I was given the "probably not we would be too overpowered/its been done" response and the issue ended there.

As to the bringing the mob back to 23% after the crash, I don't think it was an unreasonable request to bring up on an emulated server where I was told on the first day that your only rule was not to be "hardass". Once we were denied the issue wasn't really pursued either.

And yes, our guild leader asked you to leave until we were finished raiding because shortly after your arrival the zone began to lag horribly and then we crashed (twice!). You didn't have to leave, it was just impossible to do anything under the circumstances and since we were there first we had "camp" entitlement we asked. Besides, it seemed like your guild complied with our request (this could be wrong since i wasn't doing /who every 5 minutes).

As for banning the entire guild. You may feel it acceptable to ban not only the offenders, but also those associated with the them because it's "your personal sandbox," expertly driving your foot into "thoseish poeple's" faces. But by banning so recklessly you trample over hours of effort which people have trustingly placed in your hands.
"But I didn't guarantee you anything, this is my server and you are just a guest!" No, no you didn't give us any guarantees. We were just kind of hoping you were decent.

-Galah Lamah OUT

P.s. kas/steel/tun you guys heard/going to play darkfall? You should really check it out if not.

[Boo]

correction: when this post was made NONE of us was banned, so this was not a "ok you banned me i'll trash your server" post, it was basically saying that if your going to play on this server heres what you get, and Trevius i asked you for a time we could talk on your server so i can give you the full story, and lamah we're playing on Etherdark.

[Redik]

Bump.

What up guys


Just to clear some things up... Not everyone went to Etherdark. <The Others> was created after Havoc was no more. Unfortunately constant LDs are killing the server right now... slowing the progress.

[So_1337]

Yeah, sorry about that. Main problem is that we've been testing the 1126 and 1127 code in order to give better feedback regarding the group code, and it has some known issues.

I'm going to revert to 1125 until 1128 is posted, and that should solve any problems. Hope you're having fun =)

[Redik]

Thanks - No issues last night.

[So_1337]

No problem. And grats on AoW =)

[Redik]

Umm this server vanished?

[So_1337]

Hey folks.

The Cincinnati area got pounded by a severe windstorm yesterday afternoon. The power at our apartment has been out since 4 PM Sunday, and the power at my office as well (where the server machine is).

Estimates are ranging from 2 days all the way until the weekend, but it will be brought back up ASAP. Definitely not within my power to do anything about it right now. In fact, we're at someone else's house right now just to shower with hot water and recharge our electronics.

Take care, we'll keep you posted. Check this thread or the server list for the latest. Thanks.

[Redik]

Hey folks.

The Cincinnati area got pounded by a severe windstorm yesterday afternoon. The power at our apartment has been out since 4 PM Sunday, and the power at my office as well (where the server machine is).

Estimates are ranging from 2 days all the way until the weekend, but it will be brought back up ASAP. Definitely not within my power to do anything about it right now. In fact, we're at someone else's house right now just to shower with hot water and recharge our electronics.

Take care, we'll keep you posted. Check this thread or the server list for the latest. Thanks.

Thanks for update, my guess was right. I heard Ohio got hurricane force gusts

[So_1337]

90% of Duke Energy customers are experiencing outages. Thankfully, Lauren and I were invited over to stay with someone who is in the 10%.

Still over 600,000 people without power. Apparently they sent a bunch of people down to Houston to help out, and then we got hit with a ton of damage =P

[So_1337]

Office has power finally, even if our apartment still doesn't.

Server up =)

[So_1337]

Seems the server locked up. If it's not one thing, it's another. Forget it until tomorrow, sorry for the false alarm.

[So_1337]

Back up again, and to stay. Promise =)

[Redik]

thread bumpage

[Wiggims]

It seems Recruiter Lauren in the Nexus might be bugged. I have been trying to scribe new spells for the past couple of days, but it hasn't been working. It wont work on my lvl 50 necro or lvl 46 druid.

Thanks in advance,
Wiggims

[So_1337]

I'll check her script, thanks. Haven't been on lately, work's been pretty busy.

[So_1337]

All fixed. Looks like she just needed a #reloadpl to get things moving again. She's a picky gal =)

[So_1337]

Greetings,

As we've run through all of the progression content available, I'm taking the server down until such a time as we decide to run through it again (or I decide to try something entirely new/custom).

Thank you very much to everyone who played, and hopefully everyone had a good time while doing so. Any future news on this server's revival will be posted in a new thread here. I'll be around the forums here as always, feel free to PM me with requests for custom queries or server help as usual.

Take care, folks =)

[miotch]

would have gone farther if the planar flagging stuff had been removed.

[So_1337]

Didn't stop us from beating it. Still missed having you, though. Your home been falsely raided lately?