PEQ server has been down for 4 and half hours

[ghostriderdoom]

Peq server went down for reboot at 4 am like it normally does but it never came back up. Usually only takes roughly 6 minutes for reboot. Something must be wrong Cave Dude.

[unknownhost]

yeah, web site down also so that mean the whole box is offline eh?

it'll be up eventually i do not doubt...unless...even now the zombie plague is spreading!!!! :shock:

[Hugghiebear]

Server went down during the backup process. My guess would be that the backup somehow got locked up, which has possibly overwhelmed the processor. This would bring down the website and the server as well as time out any ping. Might require a manual reboot of the server computer.

Fun stuff! Go get 'em, Cavedude! :D

[Shadow5062]

yeah its still down lol, IM SOOO BORED. i hope it comes back up soon!

[Cristos]

this is a sign telling all of you in school to study for finals!!! :D

[morbidz]

its been almost 12 hours now and peq server is still not up nor is the website working, is there an update somewhere that i missed? any infoz would be gretaly appreciated. :-x :-x :-x

[81champions]

the zombie plague holt sheep crap batman what to we do
simple robin we run them over with the batmobile

[Ikeren]

I bet it's Obama again.

[Kuizzat]

Eats is hungry. Must get back in world quick. Please tell me when I will be able to feed on halflings again. Please.

[unknownhost]

on a completely unrelated note.

theres a nasty riot going on in greece. nothing at all funny about that.

however, what is both funny and sad, is watching the darkfall online forums go nuts with gamers worrying over the games beta & jan 22nd release date.



hum, isnt the serever/forums located on the east coast? anyone there to do a quick zombie-check? nothing on the news about "cannabals" or bazaar occurances in SC atm...

[omarbongo3939]

is it still down?

[morbidz]

its still down =(

[fivestargeneral]

hmmm maybe there implementing something VERY special for us to lag about....

[maxelish]

Do we have any news on when the server is coming up again?

Its been down for over 24h now :/

[Loccochris]

Actually not quite 24 hours, its been down since the backup which was 23:40 mins ago.

[omarbongo3939]

anyone know any eta or anything on server?

[Savnok]

I'd be interested in the story behind the server absence. Please fill us in.

[maxelish]

There was a guess that either it is hardware malfunctioning or just a lockup of the processor of some sort.

[81champions]

so what is up with dudes fetish on zombies:confused: :confused:
so if you been out all night partying and wake up lookin like a zombie i figure itd be best to just run:smile:

[zenthes]

Cavedude is missing in action, hasn't been seen on this forums in 2 days. Also he isn't in IRC like normal.

Talk to a few people and no one has seen/heard him....

maybe he got hit by a bus >_<

[81champions]

um that sux he coulda got ate by unknowns zombies:shock:

[cavedude]

I haven't spoken with FNW yet, if it's hardware he would be the first to know. But, my traceroute times out a few hops before PEQ so that suggests it may be ISP related.

[Zech23]

Doh - thanks for the update!

[Hugghiebear]

I'll have to remember to try tracerouting in my troubleshooting. I made the mistake of assuming that because it happened right at the backup that it was an issue with the server.

Thank goodness if it's an ISP issue. At least we know then that the server is healthy. :D

[spoon]

I haven't spoken with FNW yet, if it's hardware he would be the first to know. But, my traceroute times out a few hops before PEQ so that suggests it may be ISP related.

Strange. My traceroute times out on projecteq.net's IP and not the ISP.


Tracing route to projecteq.net [66.28.184.13]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

....

6 99 ms 60 ms 66 ms te2-2.mpd01.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.6.18]
7 40 ms 105 ms 62 ms te8-4.mpd01.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.185]
8 175 ms 198 ms 60 ms te4-4.mpd01.den01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.24.81]
9 50 ms 49 ms 49 ms vl3802.na01.b000544-0.den01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.66.170]
10 175 ms 189 ms 50 ms TelosOnline.demarc.cogentco.com [66.28.21.42]
11 * * * Request timed out.
12

~ > tracert 66.28.184.12

Tracing route to 66.28.184.12 over a maximum of 30 hops

...

6 38 ms 26 ms 37 ms te7-8.mpd02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.6.182]
7 26 ms 26 ms 29 ms te9-1.mpd01.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.105]
8 53 ms 38 ms 46 ms te2-4.mpd01.mci01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.2.233]
9 83 ms 64 ms 71 ms te4-4.mpd01.den01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.24.81]
10 50 ms 55 ms 67 ms vl3502.na01.b000544-0.den01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.66.166]
11 60 ms 120 ms 70 ms TelosOnline.demarc.cogentco.com [66.28.21.42]
12 84 ms 96 ms 63 ms 66.28.184.12

Trace complete.


I could be wrong, but this kind of suggest that its a problem with the box. Might just need to be rebooted.

[81champions]

well at least we know tha cavedude wasnt eaten by zombies:rolleyes:

[zenthes]

well at least we know tha cavedude wasnt eaten by zombies:rolleyes:

Or hit by a bus ... tho my idea is still plausible you could get hit by a bus and still survive.

[Vae]

He could have been eaten by zombies and is now posting as a zombie.

You really never know!

[rabidpotatochip]

He could have been eaten by zombies and is now posting as a zombie.

You really never know!

That would lend further credence to the hit by a bus theory. I mean, zombies are pretty durable.

[maxelish]

Back to the important parts!

Do anyone know when we might be able to come back and play again?

[paxprobellum]

Any word? Still seems down...

PING projecteq.net (66.28.184.13): 56 data bytes

--- projecteq.net ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss

[81champions]

he coulda been eat by a bus then hit by a zombie:D

[Zech23]

Still down :mad:

[morbidz]

I'm new to the server....and I have 0 complaints about the stability of the server. up until yesterdays backup all worked flawlessly except for the occasional lag.
My question is, have extended periods of downtime like this occurred before?
Im surprised more people arent posting wondering whats going on.
Any updates would be greatly appreciated, Im sure the respective parties in charge of keeping the server up are working their hardest to restore it.

It is frustrating though to not know what is going on.

[rabidpotatochip]

My guess is that there's a problem at the ISP level for the server. Which would also explain the radio silence on what's happening.

[Loeil]

Yeah if u have complaint, ask for acquittement.:D

This is a test server and shit can happen, for now nobody know whats going on so be patient and hope that wont take weeks :)

[ghostriderdoom]

Ive been playing on this server for almost a year now and I have only seen server go down 1 time in that period. And that was because Obama was in the area and had stuff turned off in a general area. So to answer your question this does not happen often. To be quite honest Cave Dude does an outstanding job keeping up with problems overall. Keep up the good work CAVE DUDE !!
I do agree tho wish we had an idea when or what is going on

[morbidz]

Ive been playing on this server for almost a year now and I have only seen server go down 1 time in that period. And that was because Obama was in the area and had stuff turned off in a general area. So to answer your question this does not happen often. To be quite honest Cave Dude does an outstanding job keeping up with problems overall. Keep up the good work CAVE DUDE !!
I do agree tho wish we had an idea when or what is going on
ty for your reply ghost. I agree with you cave dude does a fantastic job, its good to know that the server is as stable as i thght it was......See u all in game hopefully sooner than later =)

[afx]

im jonesin hard!!!!

i agree with all that has been said about grand creation its an awesome server, i just wish it was back up so i could enjoy it... :D see yous in game

[afx]

any update on the server status?

[Zech23]

Yeah, no one's complaining at all..we're just sad cuz it's down and we don't get to play! The guys at PEQ are AMAZING! :)

[Gonner]

Everyone is upset that there crack fix can't be cured. I for one feel the same but understand the technical issues that may of occurred. With the recent storm that went through there could of been some issues with power or other connectivity issues that might of been unforeseen. Just relax it will be back, in the mean time just look at the sun or moon that comes up everyday, I know its been a while sense you saw it. Thanks again CD.

[Savnok]

There are other servers to give a tray. This is Orias, Agares, Sobek and I'm running around on the [SOLO] The Irreverent server as Savnok. The few people that know me - come on over.

[Savnok]

tray.


Try.


Couldn't edit that and it was driving me nuts.

[Varkalas D`Lonovan]

Savnok nailed it. [SOLO] The Irreverent Server is the closest I've come to finding something similar PEQ, everything else is highly customized. Many thanks. :)

~ Varkalas D`Lonovan (Dark Elf Necromancer), Eldanen D`Lonovan (Iksar Monk)

[Ikeren]

The Realm also runs a pure PEQ database with none of the mobs toned down, since it allows bots. You can custom run an entire raid as you please, doing raid encounters at EQ level difficulty.

[paxprobellum]

I started playing on Gnomish Proving Grounds. So far I like it a lot. There's no customization except for Jboots drop in Najena still. Its a progression server, they just opened IC in velious (rest of velious is closed). Experience until 50 is 2-4x (I got to 20 in about 3 hours). Same char names as on PEQ (Beleg, Flinn, and Zahaba).

[Unholycow]

I started doing homework again, and reading books.

[ghostriderdoom]

I started doing homework again, and reading books.



Sux getting back to real life doesnt it COW? lol lets hope this doesnt turn into 2 weeks like last time when obama was there......

[paxprobellum]

Sux getting back to real life doesnt it COW? lol lets hope this doesnt turn into 2 weeks like last time when obama was there......

Maybe Obama's evil plan to save our economy is to crash game servers around the states so people will have to go back to "working" and "learning" and such

[Cristos]

/sigh ... Erudites... ;-) they're all brains -- not enough cock and balls!!!

[morbidz]

CD are there any updates as of yet?

[Savnok]

Savnok nailed it. [SOLO] The Irreverent Server is the closest I've come to finding something similar PEQ, everything else is highly customized. Many thanks. :)

~ Varkalas D`Lonovan (Dark Elf Necromancer), Eldanen D`Lonovan (Iksar Monk)


Well for the PEQ refuges this allows you to jump ino the game again and level quick while we wait to see what happened with PEQ. True, The Irreverent isn't customized much at all but the experience gain is 5x and the mobs, while they can still murder you, are scaled in a way that you can solo most of them (even some raid mobs) and I am told there was also group content recently added.

So it's a quick way to jump back into the game and if PEQ never comes back I may stay on The Irreverent. There are some mouthy bitches on there who feel as though the new influx are lagging up thier game but there are just as many nicer players.

No advanced /say #peqzone commands but there is a Porter in PoK making things a bit more ..realistic?

See you all on PEQ if it ever resurects.

[rabidpotatochip]

Just so you know... most, if not all, of those "mouthy bitches" on Irreverent's server are also nice people. ;)

They're foul-mouthed angels. :-D

[Loeil]

Lol I feel cursed ... Irreverent server is down too :x

[Savnok]

Someone on Irreverent has heard rumor that they are not coming back BUT I really doubt PEQ would simply pull its plug on us without a word notice. Rumor (and it is exactly that right now) is that they can't afford to run it anymore.

[rabidpotatochip]

Lol I feel cursed ... Irreverent server is down too :x

Net access to his whole area is down right now. His ISP is trying to fix it, but to the best of my knowledge, it hasn't been fixed yet.

[Loeil]

Someone on Irreverent has heard rumor that they are not coming back BUT I really doubt PEQ would simply pull its plug on us without a word notice. Rumor (and it is exactly that right now) is that they can't afford to run it anymore.

This is a silly rumor. The source absolutly dont know what he is talking about.

[Loccochris]

If they needed money to stay afloat i am sure they would have asked for it. For a rented server it would be what 25 a month? At least that is how much it cost for one when I was working on the dawn of light DAoC emulator which was enough to support 200 easily (any higher and the memory leak server code had would reach system cap which was 1.5 gb and crash).

At that price everyone donate 50 cents a month and we are easily in business. If in all honesty it is a money issue let me know and i am sure many will throw you some bones.

[SteelerMan73]

yes, if there is any need of monetary units, all PEQ has to do is ask. there is multiple people on the server that is very willing to donate. later Avilard

[KLS]

Last I checked the server was a donated box. Also I'm sure CD would mention it to everyone if it weren't coming back.

[Irreverent]

ISP fixed! :)

[Loccochris]

I assume you mean your server is back up and not PEQ which is the topic since their website is still down as far as i can tell.

[bushman77]

been all week without peq for a while now. got faith eventually it will come back up.

[Loeil]

Yeah me too im missing PEQ, but now i found time to clean my mess and make my Xmass Tree :smile:

[renoofturks1]

PEQ is not gone. I doubt it will ever be gone. It runs on a donated machine, on donated bandwith. Cost has nothing to do with it. It will be back up as soon as possible, I doubt PEQ will ever be gone.

[unknownhost]

the only thing that i can see killing PEQ with the highly dedicated people that are running it is a C&D from the big evil whose name i shall not mention.

have seen the population top 200 a few times here lately, but even that shouldnt be enough to garner attention from them would it?

[Rocker8956]

the only thing that I can see killing PEQ with the highly dedicated people that are running it is a C&D from the big evil whose name I shall not mention.

have seen the population top 200 a few times here lately, but even that shouldn’t be enough to garner attention from them would it?

PEQ and the whole EMU probably get attention from them. However, a few things keep them from shutting the EMU down.
1) We do not give the client away
2) We do not edit the client (well excluding spell lists)
3) Would not be cost effective for them to truly stop a project like this one because it is worldwide and has countless individuals contributing. Essentially if they shut this site down we could just start up another.

I am certain this EMU gets their attention heck just look at Mercs compared to bots.

Back on topic, I am not worried about PEQ. It has had some down time in the past but always comes back. They keep backups and such so if need be most of the project can be ported to another box at a different location. Though the backup/restore is probably a last resort.

[ghostriderdoom]

hey bushman77 I sent u a pm :)

[Ziffer69]

It seems the server still down at this time ... ;(

Too bad i was on holliday !

Make it back fastttttt ! plz

[svyelunite]

Isn't it amazing how the server has been down for 6 days and it seems like an eternity? I've only been on the server for about 2 months and I'm so addicted its sickening. I guess you never really get off of EverCrack...

[ghostriderdoom]

Hey Cave Dude, is there any way u can shoot us a quick reply on whats going on? Im sure u are a busy guy so we understand it takes time to do stuff.

[elation]

CD - are there any updates? ETA? Any info is greatly appreciated.

[Nomax5]

I'm just trying to set a server up for the first time and am having a problem downloading the db and the quests the error I'm getting is in cvs
cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@peq.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/peq checkout -P -- peq_db (in directory C:\PEQ-Quests)
Unable to initialize the CVS process: The system cannot find the file specified.


is this the server you are talking about?

[Machine33]

At CNN.com it saying there are still 400,000 people in the NE without power, the total was once 800.00....could this be what is up with PEQ? All I know is that I am jonesing....I take a couple hits off of the Bong and im ready for some PEQ, I get so high I forget it is down and then I have a major buzz kill when I can't log in......afk to get blunted.


Machine

[spoon]

The trace implies that the server is hosted somewhere near Denver, Colorado.

9 50 ms 49 ms 49 ms vl3802.na01.b000544-0.den01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.66.170]
10 175 ms 189 ms 50 ms TelosOnline.demarc.cogentco.com [66.28.21.42]
11 * * * Request timed out.


As does the whois:
============
Registrant Contact:

Trevius Edit: Removed this info. Whether it is accurate or not, it is completely useless for this topic and doesn't belong on these forums. Yes, some info is easy to find via a search, but that doesn't mean it is ok to start tracking people down openly unless they are causing a major disruption here.
============

But thats not always 100% accurate


However, it could be why Cavedude is MIA

[paxprobellum]

I'm just trying to set a server up for the first time and am having a problem downloading the db and the quests the error I'm getting is in cvs
cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@peq.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/peq checkout -P -- peq_db (in directory C:\PEQ-Quests)
Unable to initialize the CVS process: The system cannot find the file specified.


is this the server you are talking about?

We're talking about PEQ The Grand Creation (located at projecteq.net). However, what you are trying to access is at sourceforge.net. So yes, but no.

You might be interested in this:
http://www.eqemulator.net/forums/showthread.php?p=142192

[81champions]

doubt the power outage is the problem not sure tho it would be nice but the server was restarting then never came back up i think unknowns zombies drove over it with a bus

[unknownhost]

The trace implies that the server is hosted somewhere near Denver, Colorado.

9 50 ms 49 ms 49 ms vl3802.na01.b000544-0.den01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.66.170]
10 175 ms 189 ms 50 ms TelosOnline.demarc.cogentco.com [66.28.21.42]
11 * * * Request timed out.


"area edited"

But thats not always 100% accurate


However, it could be why Cavedude is MIA


donno if this is important or not but...

i know anyone who knows what they're doing can pull that information up but you might want to consider that if that address & name is the correct person hosting the server (or isnt shrug) they might not want their name & home address posted on this forum. a telephone number is veeery easy to find with that info and theres no telling how many calls he might get asking "whens the server going to be up??!!" :shock:

anyways, just saying, might wana pull that name/addy out of your post before it pisses the wrong guy off possibly bro. :wink:

[paxprobellum]

anyways, just saying, might wana pull that name/addy out of your post before it pisses the wrong guy off possibly bro. :wink:

Yer, especially since the address you gave is some dude's house -- I don't think this is the commercial hosting site of PEQTGC:

Trevius Edit: I removed the image. I understand your concern about the server, but attempting to track down the team members here is not going to help anything and is a bit disrespectful.

[afx]

lol i love the picture of the house... well im sure peq will come back up, this just gives us to enjoy the outside for a while... cause you know once its back up we won't go out for another year or so :P

[spoon]

donno if this is important or not but...

i know anyone who knows what they're doing can pull that information up but you might want to consider that if that address & name is the correct person hosting the server (or isnt shrug) they might not want their name & home address posted on this forum. a telephone number is veeery easy to find with that info and theres no telling how many calls he might get asking "whens the server going to be up??!!" :shock:

anyways, just saying, might wana pull that name/addy out of your post before it pisses the wrong guy off possibly bro. :wink:

ummm... I guess. But I would also think anyone who would care would also know how to type "whois projecteq.net" so its not like its causing any harm. If it does, I'm sorry. If you don't want your info known, don't publish it in the yellow pages (of the internet).

[demonstar55]

Yer, especially since the address you gave is some dude's house -- I don't think this is the commercial hosting site of PEQTGC:



the whois address it gives is the address of the person that registered the domain, or who currently owns it, of course the hosting site wouldn't own it, who ever owns the website would (aka CD, or someone paying the bill for CD)

[Funno]

Hmm... Still no updates? Does this mean that CD can't access the internet at all?

[renoofturks1]

The server is hosted in the west, the power outage is not the problem with it. It was San Fran before it's move during September, I'm not sure where it is located now, but it didn't move far. CD on the other hand MIGHT be located in the NE, and the power outage may be keeping him from responding. He will post a response when he is able I'm sure.

[KLS]

I had talked to him day before yesterday and basically he said he didn't post because he didn't have an update. Haven't seen him since early yesterday though.

[Funno]

When he said that he doesn't have an update, does it mean that he doesn't know what's wrong?

[trevius]

Is that Funno from Drinal/GotK? If so, how have you been man? Long time no see lol :D Sorry about the thread derail :P

[Funno]

Is that Funno from Drinal/GotK? If so, how have you been man? Long time no see lol :D Sorry about the thread derail :P

I actually played on RZ =P. This is my first pve server ever and I'm having a blast so far. Can't believe it's been almost 5 years since I quit EQ live.

[cavedude]

Sorry guys, I know just as much as you all do. Though, I suspect the problem is hardware related like last time.

In any event, PEQ will be back up eventually even if I have to host it myself.

[Machine33]

Thanks for posting CD, it gives us hope that PEQ will be back soon cause I am straight up jonsing! For real though just seeing you post helps me relax I would be crused if PEQ was gone for good so this puts me a little at ease.

Machine

[Teltic]

in the mean time, is there a place I can download the stuff from projecteq.net that I need to make a server?

[unknownhost]

Teltic, probably is somwhere to find the recent peq server setup stuff but donno that info meself.

however this might be helpful to you.

leslamarch's portable eq emu (http://www.eqemulator.net/forums/showthread.php?t=26531)

[alblagg]

I'm pretty sure the most recent version of the db is on sourceforge, just do a search for PEQ and you should pull it up.

[Daenarys]

ive been forced to play on TZ/VZ...not fun...

[Funno]

ive been forced to play on TZ/VZ...not fun...

I tried playing there but couldn't bring myself to lvl up... /sigh I'll just have to wait for the PEQ to come back up

[Ikeren]

ive been forced to play on TZ/VZ...not fun...

I got a necromancer trapped in Paineel due to buggy lifts.

[kamway]

its not that difficult really, just have to make sure you care for a server and not use it as a coffee table. in my opinion and i live in Littleton CO where the server is, didnt have any power outages, nor was it a result of poor connection, was on the whole time thro comcast which is the primary out this way, and had no problems at all with ip or isp. the dude probably got arrested for crack and sold his computer for bail money. ... in my opinion. PEQ will never be back online there could never be any issues with a condor 386 which is turned into a slave pony server to run a dinosaur game like EQ that cant be resolved, hate to break it to you, but mabye now its time to go get a girlfriend *wink* winK*

[elation]

What's sad is that the server stability has been rock solid these past couple of weeks. After the last "ordeal" it was quite unstable most of the time not to mention the severe lag issues that ensued. So after a couple weeks of bliss, we're down again. :( I fear it's going to be a very long time before we see PEQ online again. Please note - I'm a little paranoid when it comes to these types of things. :)

The good news is: My house is clean. I'll have time to do some Christmas shopping now. I might even bake some treats for work. And if it gets really bad, I might *gasp* start working out again. :D

[demonstar55]

What's sad is that the server stability has been rock solid these past couple of weeks. After the last "ordeal" it was quite unstable most of the time not to mention the severe lag issues that ensued. So after a couple weeks of bliss, we're down again. :( I fear it's going to be a very long time before we see PEQ online again. Please note - I'm a little paranoid when it comes to these types of things. :)

The good news is: My house is clean. I'll have time to do some Christmas shopping now. I might even bake some treats for work. And if it gets really bad, I might *gasp* start working out again. :D

PEQ will be back

[ghostriderdoom]

It has to be a hardware issue, so as soon as they figure out what went buggy, they will fix it and we will be back . just hope its soon is all. Last time server went down for 2 weeks cause of Obama alot of people quit the game , and we were just getting a bunch of new faces to :(

Come back PEQ come back...........

[elation]

Come back PEQ come back...........

Had a flash back to the movie - Titanic. :D

It's amazing how attached to a game one can become. I really hope it's up at least by Christmas when I'm off work and there is nothing to do.

[tlbww]

This is the beginnings of a sad holiday.

Oh well. Off to Hellgate and Tabala Raza.

[EvoZak]

This is the beginnings of a sad holiday.

Oh well. Off to Hellgate and Tabala Raza.

TR is shutting down Feb. 28

[Kayot]

Oh the irony...

Wonder if they'll release the Tabala Raza server code and database if I ask nicely. Never played it, but it would be fun to have it and the game on hand should I ever decide too.

[Vast]

Last time server went down for 2 weeks cause of Obama alot of people quit the game
WTF?

Anywho, CD if you do decide to start up a new box and want some help with the capital just most the paypal link.

[renoofturks1]

Last time server went down for 2 weeks cause of Obama alot of people quit the game

More likely just the normal population fluctuations that occur. As of last week, the population was commonly over 200, considerably higher than the summer peaks of 120-140. It happens every year, higher during early winter and early summer, tapering off during mid-summer and the spring.

And Vast, wtf? Try logging on every now and then, I tire of insulting Nork. It no longer amuses me. And to top it all off, Paladin's are popping up everywhere, it's getting out of hand! Damn plague!

[unknownhost]

Oh the irony...

Wonder if they'll release the Tabala Raza server code and database if I ask nicely. Never played it, but it would be fun to have it and the game on hand should I ever decide too.

wish they would do stuff like this.
i really wanted to give tabula rasa a chance back when i first heard of it and that Garriot(sp?) was doing it. donno what happen but i lost track and then boom it was out and alot of the reviews i read were tales of suckage.

love to give it a try now, anyone know of other mmorpg's that have shut down relasing any kind of code? i know AC2 closed but as far as i know they never released anything publicly??

[Loccochris]

No MMORPG developer would ever release their code. With so much investment into making them even just holding rights to engine/code/name is worth not releasing it.

Closest thing to what you want would have to be Ragnorok(sp) online which had a leak of their entire server code. Essentially the years it takes to reverse engineer an emulator they went from 0% done to 100% done in matter of minutes. Illegal of course but that is not going to stop servers from popping up with the server code. If they try to shut down a site another will just pop up, so most companies don't even bother just like with pirating software safety in masses and mobility.

As for a list of emulated servers aka freeshard games:

UO
EQ
Ragnorok Online (actual copy of live code)
Lineage
Lineage II
DAoC
WoW
Asherons Call

Supposedly Maplestory but I have yet to see this done. People claim it is impossible, I can only assume NCGuard blocks any type of packet sniffer which is going to be a big problem heh. Sad too cause I would think the time to actually reverse engineer a 2d side scrolling game would be a fraction of all that is EQ or a similar 3d game. Not exactly all that much packet sniffing I would think game has limited controls.

EQII is in alpha testing, one would estimate a playable version and beta within a year.

[unknownhost]

wow, i didnt realize there was a daoc emu available!

i gotta say ima about to do some searching! was quite involved in that game at its release, my guild even held #1 realm points on our server for that time...many memories there. wow i bet by now it even has non-pvp content...

hehe thanks you just gave me somthing to do! :grin:

[tlbww]

Tabula Rasa is one of the shortest lived MMos every made that I know. Right up there next to it is Hellgate London.

Funny thingabout Tabula Rasa. I paid for a suscription about 4 days before it went under publicly. I asked for a refund for unrelated hardware issues and it was reinstated. Then I get an email saying that the servers will be doing down next month and I get to play for free. Talk about luck. They only give this priviledge to those that subscribed before the cut off date of their announced retirement.

PlayNc is pushing Lineage and that new game Aion on me now... I've played Lineage but I'm more interested in Aion though my comp would probably explode when I install it.`

[unknownhost]

man i donno how long this fix will last as i always felt daoc was a totally inferior pvE game to eq but with very decent pvp aspects (as a stealther at least). quit playing the game due to my class being a key one who got floundered hard with the nerf bat in a nasty series of patchs early on and, well, it pissed me off and i lost alotta interest... 8)

Dawn of Light (http://www.daocportal.net/)

like how they've done things. seems to be amazingly simple thus far but lets see what digging deeper turns up. nice to see mysql in use to start off...

[kiirdiir]

No MMORPG developer would ever release their code.

"Cyan Worlds, Inc., creators of the Myst franchise, has decided to make their unsuccessful MMORPG Myst Online: Uru Live into an open source game. They will release all the source code for the client, server, and tools.

http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/12/13/041200

[porigromus]

No MMORPG developer would ever release their code. With so much investment into making them even just holding rights to engine/code/name is worth not releasing it.

Closest thing to what you want would have to be Ragnorok(sp) online which had a leak of their entire server code. Essentially the years it takes to reverse engineer an emulator they went from 0% done to 100% done in matter of minutes. Illegal of course but that is not going to stop servers from popping up with the server code. If they try to shut down a site another will just pop up, so most companies don't even bother just like with pirating software safety in masses and mobility.

As for a list of emulated servers aka freeshard games:

UO
EQ
Ragnorok Online (actual copy of live code)
Lineage
Lineage II
DAoC
WoW
Asherons Call

Supposedly Maplestory but I have yet to see this done. People claim it is impossible, I can only assume NCGuard blocks any type of packet sniffer which is going to be a big problem heh. Sad too cause I would think the time to actually reverse engineer a 2d side scrolling game would be a fraction of all that is EQ or a similar 3d game. Not exactly all that much packet sniffing I would think game has limited controls.

EQII is in alpha testing, one would estimate a playable version and beta within a year.


To bad EQ trilogy wasn't leaked. : P At least the code would still be in tact. SOE claims they don't have it anymore from that time period .. but I always doubt that. Wouldn't an intelligent company keep archives?

[Kayot]

I think I'll send an e-mail to the staff at Tabala Raza, the worst they can do is say no.

I figure if they can put a DO NOT SELL in their clause for the server, they might just release a compiled server publicly. Sure that means it can't have bug fixes, but maybe releasing the server code might help offset their losses through game sales. Read as, release the server, not the client. It's evil, I know... But as things stand right now, they wont even pull a profit. If nothing else, maybe they can make a minilogin type server like eqemu did...

As for PEQ, I hope it comes back soon. I had a bunch of suggestions (Not DB related) for the server.

[Pyjamarama]

I know that a group of players tried to buy the rights to the Saga of Ryzom and then release it to the public, but it never happened because other companies always outbid them... and always failed to make a profit.

You can read about it here: http://www.ryzom.org

I'm guessing that at least a third of all new MMOs coming out will be shut down within a few years. Things that depend on profit for survival have a short lifespan, whereas things in the public domain are essentially immortal. So I definitely believe EQEmu will outlive SOE. Hopefully PEQ will be back up soon...

[elation]

Have we heard anything else? I'm really bored out of my skull and craving some EQ.

[Vast]

And Vast, wtf? Try logging on every now and then, I tire of insulting Nork. It no longer amuses me. And to top it all off, Paladin's are popping up everywhere, it's getting out of hand! Damn plague!

Hard to do when the server isn't up :P Actually, I was gearing up to come back when this all went down. If it ever gets going again we'll see. Sad part is from all the servers left there really aren't any contenders for a PEQ clone. The ones that are close to PEQ are the fly-by-night type and fuck investing that amount of time in toons only to have it drop off in 2 months.

I think I'll pretty much wait and see what CD does. If he decides to pursuit it, I'll support him financially, if not, well then my social life will continue to not suck :)

[tlbww]

My Xmas and New year wish is for PEQ to both come back, come back stronger than ever, come back to stay, and a PS3 =)

[liquest]

i was wondering whats a good substitute for pew being down

[Savnok]

Liquest, jump on The Irreverent server and go...

It's the best way to get into the game agin fairly quickly and if you get to go back to PEQ then you'll have a lvl 70 character on The Irreverent.

I'm on there as Savnok.

The one thing I don't like lately is how Custom getting your epic 2.0 is but they claim thier reasons for making it so.


5x experience and STABLE unlike the other accelerated servers. Some of the others are so buggy it's crazy.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Years ...after the Merry Christmas. :roll:

[Loccochris]

I tried the Irreverant but the people there were very nasty. I simply wanted to ask a few questions not answered on the web and first off none of them answered. Simple things different between each server such as does the Bazaar work here? Then they got into the whole thing that when the population of server went up it crashed so I logged off so as not to "crash" thier server and

Went and played on the custom server armourus(sp) and have found it quick to get into and fun. While I think the server is set up to award players too easily it is a great server you can jump into spend an hour or two and log out having accomplished alot.

[Hugghiebear]

SWEET!

I can ping projecteq.net, and I can get to the website and forums. Now we just gotta wait for TGC to come back up.

Waiting and twitching...

[morbidz]

Server went down for backup as usual this morning, came back up like normal but went down like 10 minutes after......now the website is down again and server still not up OH NO.................................CD q pasa?

merry Xmas btw peeps =)

[tlbww]

PEQ down again. 2 days was a good recoop time. I can go another week w/o it =).

[svyelunite]

is my PEQ.... Nah, some time away with the fam is probably better anyway.

Merry Christmas everyone!!

[Pyjamarama]

Happy Christmas everyone! Hopefully Santa fixed the server!

[elation]

Merry Christmas.

Is there an update on the server?

[svyelunite]

Do we know what happened this time with the server? Last time was resetting a power seat or something like that, I was wondering if anyone knows if this time is related, or if its something else? I understand with the holidays and all, it could be a while until anyone gets a chance to work on it, it would just set me at ease knowing whats going on. Thanks.:)

[elation]

Any news would be great. Also, does anyone know if there is a chat room for PEQ? I tried the irc channel for eqemulator but that didn't work.

[Hugghiebear]

According to traceroute, we appear to be having the same issue as before it came back up for two days.

2 53 ms 53 ms 53 ms tukw-dsl-gw19-211.tukw.qwest.net [63.231.10.211]

3 54 ms 53 ms 53 ms tukw-agw1.inet.qwest.net [71.217.184.145]
4 72 ms 72 ms 70 ms snj-core-01.inet.qwest.net [67.14.34.14]
5 70 ms 70 ms 70 ms sjp-brdr-02.inet.qwest.net [205.171.233.18]
6 74 ms 71 ms 74 ms gi1-6.mpd01.sjc03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.13.
21]
7 * 74 ms 70 ms te4-1.mpd01.sjc04.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.5.1
05]
8 76 ms 72 ms 73 ms te9-1.ccr02.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.0.1
77]
9 112 ms 112 ms 114 ms te4-3.mpd02.den01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.5.1
97]
10 113 ms 112 ms 114 ms te4-1.mpd01.den01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.0.1
09]
11 113 ms 114 ms 114 ms vl3502.na01.b000544-0.den01.atlas.cogentco.com [
66.28.66.166]
12 112 ms 114 ms 114 ms TelosOnline.demarc.cogentco.com [66.28.21.42]
13 * * * Request timed out.


Looks like we may have a potential network issue going on again.

[Pyjamarama]

Any news would be great. Also, does anyone know if there is a chat room for PEQ? I tried the irc channel for eqemulator but that didn't work.

I believe the PEQ irc channel still works -- it's #npcmovdb.

[cavedude]

If anybody remembers, when we were moved to a different building they ran into several various (and oddly random) problems that prevented us from coming back up. One of the which was the AC in the new building was messed up, causing the machines to overheat. We (PEQ) had thought that they have since corrected that, but apparently not. The last time we went down was due to PEQ overheating, and I assume this time is the same issue. Last time I spoke with FNW he says he was told we aren't alone, and that many of the servers in the new building are having similar issues. Real good for business, eh?

The solution is real simple, FNW has to contact our ISP and request a reboot. But, he is currently away (not sure whether it is business or for the holidays) so that is the reason for the delay. Hopefully, he and I can also come up with a plan to prevent downtime like this in the future when he does come back.

So, just hold tight. :)

[Kilalee]

Thanks for the update, hot servers are never a good thing!

[Loeil]

Thx Cavedude,

Nice to have news.

Merry Xmass to everybody :-D

Loeil

[donaldcanard]

Yes, thank you for the update.

Now I can show my wife that it is not my fault that we can not get to the server.

[demonstar55]

If anybody remembers, when we were moved to a different building they ran into several various (and oddly random) problems that prevented us from coming back up. One of the which was the AC in the new building was messed up, causing the machines to overheat. We (PEQ) had thought that they have since corrected that, but apparently not. The last time we went down was due to PEQ overheating, and I assume this time is the same issue. Last time I spoke with FNW he says he was told we aren't alone, and that many of the servers in the new building are having similar issues. Real good for business, eh?

The solution is real simple, FNW has to contact our ISP and request a reboot. But, he is currently away (not sure whether it is business or for the holidays) so that is the reason for the delay. Hopefully, he and I can also come up with a plan to prevent downtime like this in the future when he does come back.

So, just hold tight. :)

The AC problem probably stems from the fact that normal AC units aren't menat to run in colder weather (which I'm assuming the building is currently located in an area that is colder right now) my uncle does some HVAC and the normal AC units run on freon which is used for the cooling, and freon's natural tendency is to go towards the colder air despite all the pumps and everything trying to make the unit work, so my guess is the AC units aren't working for that reason, or something, I don't really know how to fix that issue but yeah :P

[brdian]

if its hosted in a legit datacenter it shouldn't matter, datacenter hvacs are designed to work 24/7/365.

[Giren]

Whether it's a datacenter or a hobo's garage. PEQ will be back eventually.

It's like fishing. Gotta wait until they walk up to you, then take your pick and club one over the head. Haul it up onto your shoulders fireman carry and hope you don't inhale any of it's royal jelly.

Profit.

[tlbww]

Whether it's a datacenter or a hobo's garage. PEQ will be back eventually.

It's like fishing. Gotta wait until they walk up to you, then take your pick and club one over the head. Haul it up onto your shoulders fireman carry and hope you don't inhale any of it's royal jelly.

Profit.

What the hell are you talking about? That made less "cents" than an ugly hooker working on a corner by Red Cross.

[Yeormom]

I don't see how hookers and Red Cross makes anymore sense either. :(

[renoofturks1]

It's Giren, I expect such things....

[tlbww]

I don't see how hookers and Red Cross makes anymore sense either. :(

Don't worry. That was a joke for the old timers.

[Ikeren]

I appreciated the hilarity value of both analogies.

[tlbww]

Ringing in the new year w/o PEQ is a horrible start. Let's hope left4dead replaces the void in my heart.

[Giren]

Fallout 3 and Scars of Amerous is filling my time at the moment.

Poopie.

[Kilalee]

Wow, I've tried all kinda of EQ servers since PEQ has been down but I cant find any that I like as much. :)

[Kilalee]

Keeping my fingers crossed it will come back up soon!

[Itchybottom]

Ringing in the new year w/o PEQ is a horrible start. Let's hope left4dead replaces the void in my heart.

But Left4Dead lacks Reno and Flabby to harass. . .

I don't mean to stir the pot (if I am); I have to wonder [a question directed at cavedude or FatherNitWit], is the BIOS set to shut down the machine when it reaches a temperature zone on the processor or chipset? Or is it the case it literally get so hot it hard locks?

Discussing the former, these Pentium4-class machines operate at pretty extreme temperatures, and perhaps the BIOS setting needs to be updated. Pentium4 (Northwood and Prescott, not sure about the older Willamette core) are rated all the way up to 75C and 65C operating temperatures. Intel chipsets from that era (865, 875, 850, E7210) are rated between 65c-80c, while SiS chipset (645, 655) are rated for 110c (who needs a heater when you have a SiS P4!) I can vouch for this in testing: I've got a 3GHz Prescott still on my network running fanless with a 0.16cw rated heatsink, and a single 120mm (but 28cfm) exhaust in the power supply, that lives permanently in a 28c room (second bedroom, only one A/C vent unblocked, otherwise no air flow. it's full of folding machines) that hasn't skipped a beat since late 2004. Hard drives are also fault tolerant up to 40-55c. PC2700-PC3200 runs all the way up to 60c in some cases, and not that it matters, but some rambus modules go even higher. MOST ATX consumer-class power supplies are also usually rated at 75c with all of the rails loaded.

Either way, I'm just trying to wrap my head around how this datacenter (or office, or whatever it is) is heating up so much it's shutting you down. To me, this situation is unconceivable unless a human is hitting the emergency shut off switch for the grid or your server hardware is simply failing.

The only other thought I have is those hot-as-hell rack mounted APC and TrippLite units somehow pooping out. I've burned myself on those shiny APC Symmetra LX pieces of... but I've never seen them shut down due to heat. I have however seen CAT5E skin melt all over a TrippLite 3U unit, short out, put on a dazzling array of black/dark gray smoke, accompanied by a high-pitched noise with a few sparks, a loud bang, then proceed blow all of the line conditioners in the building before we could get the power off to that rack and a class C extinguisher in there. But I'm sure that doesn't apply here. RIGHT? ;)

[cavedude]

But Left4Dead lacks Reno and Flabby to harass. . .

I don't mean to stir the pot (if I am); I have to wonder [a question directed at cavedude or FatherNitWit], is the BIOS set to shut down the machine when it reaches a temperature zone on the processor or chipset? Or is it the case it literally get so hot it hard locks?

Discussing the former, these Pentium4-class machines operate at pretty extreme temperatures, and perhaps the BIOS setting needs to be updated. Pentium4 (Northwood and Prescott, not sure about the older Willamette core) are rated all the way up to 75C and 65C operating temperatures. Intel chipsets from that era (865, 875, 850, E7210) are rated between 65c-80c, while SiS chipset (645, 655) are rated for 110c (who needs a heater when you have a SiS P4!) I can vouch for this in testing: I've got a 3GHz Prescott still on my network running fanless with a 0.16cw rated heatsink, and a single 120mm (but 28cfm) exhaust in the power supply, that lives permanently in a 28c room (second bedroom, only one A/C vent unblocked, otherwise no air flow. it's full of folding machines) that hasn't skipped a beat since late 2004. Hard drives are also fault tolerant up to 40-55c. PC2700-PC3200 runs all the way up to 60c in some cases, and not that it matters, but some rambus modules go even higher. MOST ATX consumer-class power supplies are also usually rated at 75c with all of the rails loaded.

Either way, I'm just trying to wrap my head around how this datacenter (or office, or whatever it is) is heating up so much it's shutting you down. To me, this situation is unconceivable unless a human is hitting the emergency shut off switch for the grid or your server hardware is simply failing.

The only other thought I have is those hot-as-hell rack mounted APC and TrippLite units somehow pooping out. I've burned myself on those shiny APC Symmetra LX pieces of... but I've never seen them shut down due to heat. I have however seen CAT5E skin melt all over a TrippLite 3U unit, short out, put on a dazzling array of black/dark gray smoke, accompanied by a high-pitched noise with a few sparks, a loud bang, then proceed blow all of the line conditioners in the building before we could get the power off to that rack and a class C extinguisher in there. But I'm sure that doesn't apply here. RIGHT? ;)

I don't have details, but I do know we are getting kernel core dumps due to excessive heat. I'm hoping the machine will then shuts itself off to prevent damage. But, I don't know if it does or not.

As for how it happens, it's part of a server farm with a malfunctioning (or possibly even non-functioning) AC system... Heatsinks and fans merely dissipate heat, they don't magically make it disappear. That heat has to go somewhere, and it will begin filling the room. That's where the AC comes in. Its job isn't really to keep the room cool, but rather to replace the hot air dissipated by the servers with cool (or at least cooler) air. If the AC is not functioning that room will become hot as hell (I speak from personal experience) and the internal temps of the servers will skyrocket since they will no longer be able to dissipate any heat, since there will be no place to dissipate it to ;)

I have 6 personal machines that when put in the same closed room raises the air temperature at least 5 degrees in the winter time. (Granted, it is a small room) Still, if 10 machines can do that, imagine what a couple hundred can do!

[Loccochris]

My room is cold as hell without my lil heater aka PC heh. They should make the cases out of acrylic and fill them with cooking oil (doesn't conduct electricity), then stick a mini AC unit directly into the cooking oil which triggers when temp reaches a yellow status. That way if both ac fail at least you can fry your french fries in your PC for some good pc flavor.

Either way, waiting is fine but it might be nice if we can get a backup server somewhere and set a script to get database copied to it daily. Then pull it up and run till server up and copy the newer DB back over.

Find myself playing many single player games recently though so all is good lol.

[81champions]

got ps3 fer xmas so im aight till it comes back up :grin:
so ill begaming at least till the zombies come:rolleyes:

[Dr Zauis]

I really hope the problem gets sorted soon. I had just gotten my sister back into the game and we were really having fun. I gave her all my prized gear I have treasured for years. Didnt need it with bazaar finally working. Im finally set up with some decent gear and this has to happen. Ive played a little on Irreverent and thats been a little fun but it sure isnt home.

Heres a song to show ya how I feel about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsPh_8Dxl3E

[Gonner]

Reminds me of Richie Truxillo that made some corny music like the songs "EQ Obsessed", "Servers are down again" and "If I Had A Billion Platinum". Though at this time the Servers down again is what came to mind.

http://www.last.fm/music/Richie+Truxillo

[Korpen]

Shame to see it down, I aswell are a returning player and heard some great things about this server, very eager to try it. But i bet its worth the wait.

Used to play back from Kunark up to when LDoN came out, that expansion just didnt do it for me.

[Ddealer]

I too have tried all different trypes of servers in the mean time and none compare to Grand Creation.
Can't wait till it comes back up!
Hope we all don't have to wait too long, I just got my son into it.
Look forward to seeing you all again soon on Grand CREATION.

Ddealer.

[elation]

I've gotten a lot done this past month or so. I'm missing the server less and less to be honest which saddens me. I guess it's the old scenario - time heals all wounds. Anyway...

Everyone is probably thinking it but I guess I'll say it. At what point do we cut our losses and move to a different host? There are lots of folks that will donate to make it happen. Obviously the free route would be best... But if the server is down for such a long time that free even starts to look unappealing... What then? :confused:

Concerned PEQer :)

[demonstar55]

I've gotten a lot done this past month or so. I'm missing the server less and less to be honest which saddens me. I guess it's the old scenario - time heals all wounds. Anyway...

Everyone is probably thinking it but I guess I'll say it. At what point do we cut our losses and move to a different host? There are lots of folks that will donate to make it happen. Obviously the free route would be best... But if the server is down for such a long time that free even starts to look unappealing... What then? :confused:

Concerned PEQer :)

I think this is just so drawn out downage because someone people are away on vacation and can't do things to make it back up or something

[Talisan]

Everyone is probably thinking it but I guess I'll say it. At what point do we cut our losses and move to a different host? There are lots of folks that will donate to make it happen. Obviously the free route would be best... But if the server is down for such a long time that free even starts to look unappealing... What then? :confused:

I know that I've been having the same thoughts. Which is sad because I've looked at some other popular servers and they just didn't appeal to me. I'd love to know if this is going to be a regular technical difficulty with this server and as such I should just consider it down and find somewhere else to play.

I guess everyone just has to make that determination for themselves based on how patient they are. =)

[cavedude]

Back up, just give me some time to get the game server up. With the new mail and chat servers, I have to make some changes to our internal scripts and such.

[demonstar55]

Back up, just give me some time to get the game server up. With the new mail and chat servers, I have to make some changes to our internal scripts and such.

skjgfijws;'~!

[Debacle]

Back up, just give me some time to get the game server up. With the new mail and chat servers, I have to make some changes to our internal scripts and such.

Thanks for the update - keep up the good work.

[Kilalee]

finnaly peq the grand creation is up and running im always trying to find pepole to play with im ma lv 25 ranger named deriikkun send me a message plz if u want to play

[PrimerTC]

w00t! come on, im fighting with my GF and i need something to dooo!!!! :shock:

[Secrets]

w00t! come on, im fighting with my GF and i need something to dooo!!!! :shock:

You sir, make me sad. Can someone lock this necro post?

[Bosec]

Im sorry.. Umm, i was going to post on the first thread of this i saw but it's closed..

When i log in The Grand Creation isn't listed in the server list? Is this cause the server is still down? Or is there something wrong I'm doing?

PM me please about the Grand Creation server. Thanks :)

/bow

[demonstar55]

Im sorry.. Umm, i was going to post on the first thread of this i saw but it's closed..

When i log in The Grand Creation isn't listed in the server list? Is this cause the server is still down? Or is there something wrong I'm doing?

PM me please about the Grand Creation server. Thanks :)

/bow

still down

[bolt151]

i still cant get on grand creation even tho this forum says its back up
it just dosent show up on my server list
any help would be much appreciated

[sesmar]

Not sure where you read that it was back up but it is still down.

http://eqemulator.net/forums/showthread.php?p=175398#post175398

[Bosec]

Bleh..I can't find a server as good as PEQ.. I found a progression server called Clumsy's.. But meh.. Not enough people.

[dragos56]

I know about the previous thread. Its been a week and i was looking for an update, even if that update is "nothing has changed".

Just a courtesy to those that play on the server is all, thanks.

[whitebandit]

yeah odds are that nothing has changed, but it would be nice, ive checked their website, the server list and this forum multiple times a day since the server went down...

i have nothing else to do now =p

[laneldarye]

Based on the previous thread, the last down time of PEQ seemed to be 33 days. I consider we should still wait patiently as it's only been a week.

[elation]

Has it really only been a week? Man it feels like a month. :shock: I'm sure missing it.