PEQ dead?

[roflstein]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm new to PEQ Grand Creation server, and I was wondering if their server and website being down for about 12 hours is something to be worried about, or if this is some sort of weekly maintenance I don't know about. Thanks in advance for any helpful info anyone posts.

[trevius]

No, if there was something to be concerned about, you would have seen posts about it here from the server's team already. I think they are experiencing some network issues IIRC. I think I read something about that recently anyway.

[cavedude]

We've had ongoing problems with temperature control in the data center where we are hosted. Their AC must have gone to all hell over the past 2 days because PEQ has been completely unusable. I put a request in to just shut us down until everything is settled on their end, rather than kill our new hardware. I don't have anymore information at this point, and won't until FNW comes back from his trip as he's the only one who has physical access to the server.

EDIT: Short version, don't worry we'll be back up.

[cavedude]

Any PEQ users who wish to gather, join us in irc. Server is irc.eqemulator.net, channel is #npcmovdb.

[vales]

Thanks for the heads up, CD. ;-)

[cavedude]

Server is back up, so we can use our forums. I am keeping the game server for now until I feel better about our stability. However, I don't believe they would have started us back up unless the heat problems in the data center were under control.

[Ceazar69]

There up!...Errr.now there down...grrr

[John Adams]

We've had ongoing problems with temperature control in the data center where we are hosted.
;) I call mine "the NOC"... basically a Dell poweredge 2900 standing in the corner of my study with a fan blowing on it.

[tobbygnome]

yes, seems the PEQ members are withering without any forums and EQ, but 1 thing is that the IRC server that CD posted above may sometimes be down so instead, try using THIS: irc.eq2emulator.net #npcmovdb instead and that will most likely connect to the IRC. Also it would be nice to have a ventrilo or teamspeak server running for PEQ, i know shadestrike had one going but he must of killed it, but nowdays ventrilo is very usefull and small, maybe someone in US might consider running one?

Cheers, Tobbygnome

[Bidon45]

;) I call mine "the NOC"... basically a Dell poweredge 2900 standing in the corner of my study with a fan blowing on it.

In my experience, OUTGOING fans help a lot more than incoming. having fans near the PC or Server blowing the heat from it out seems to do better. My PC has a lot of equipment in it that should generate a lot of heat, and I have just 1 outgoing fan in the back and it never overheats heh

[Foin]

Any updates yet as to when we might be up again? I am one of those people who twitches when they cant play eq for days on end.

[tobbygnome]

lol Foin, i know what you meen, i have had 2 all nighters all EQ free but still having EQ open on my second monitor checking that list to see the return of PEQ. Dont worry my friend, it will come back soon, in the meantime, try watching movies and tv eps to pass the time like i have. It actually feels like a really long time since i've played EQ for some reason even though its only been a couple of days.

[cavedude]

In my experience, OUTGOING fans help a lot more than incoming. having fans near the PC or Server blowing the heat from it out seems to do better. My PC has a lot of equipment in it that should generate a lot of heat, and I have just 1 outgoing fan in the back and it never overheats heh

Too bad we are in a several hundred machine server farm room with a faulty AC unit :(

No updates on PEQ, though they keep bringing us up and down, mostly likely to conserve the limited cool air for the paying customers :)

[image]

Don't feel bad cavedude, my server had power issues then the power supply failed. It is how the dedicated biz goes :P

Edit: Btw Rogean's IRC server was down, try eqnet.eqemulator.net

[Ceazar69]

A/C technician here, whats the A/C doing/not doing maybe i can talk ya' thru the fix

[jellyini]

Suddenly it's all become clear...

It's all a conspiracy, see? CD gets all his honey-do list by 'overheating' the servers. I mean so far he's had an offer to wash his car and fix his A/C. I think he's waiting til some one offers to paint his house.

It's beautiful in it's simplicity. Get a bunch of junkies hooked and pull the "fix." They'll do ANYTHING for you. 8-)

J

[Ceazar69]

I really dont mean to be rude , but is there another server like this one i can "GET MY FIX'..<shakes uncontrolably> until they get it fixed?.. I really dont like the <feed me with a silver spoon> or <Not EQ anymore> servers.

[Ikeren]

I think there are several servers that run PEQ databases. I know for a fact The Realm runs a PEQ database with bots enabled (you have to pay for them...100plat plus some tradeskills for the first). It's not PEQ (since you can run a full raid yourself, and lots of us can't 12-18-24 box), but it is fun and on a PEQ database.

[Locco1]

It is a little annoying to say the least lol. Before we had LS issues which for the most part are working decently now, then we had lag issues, new hardware has basically ended this all together, and now it is where our hardware is stored that is having issues lol.

We just can't cut a break it seems. I would be willing to donate to move it to a better server location but I doubt we could just up and move our new hardware as server hosts would prob make us rent theirs negating ours.

[steveprutz]

Heh. I finally get to a spot with decent internet, and my server is down! :shock:

Oh well, I'll be patient. I'll try to throw a donation in that direction, in the meantime.

[demonstar55]

Heh. I finally get to a spot with decent internet, and my server is down! :shock:

Oh well, I'll be patient. I'll try to throw a donation in that direction, in the meantime.

donation won't help the data center's heating problems, this isn't the first time the data center had heating problems, last time was in December and it was down for like 3 weeks, but there was other shit going on too :P at least FNW is in the IRC channel, hopefully he's back from whatever and he can work on telling us what the exact problem is and ETA until fix

[lorun]

if needed, i can host a server 100mb up and down ... on the distribution you want linux, windows (need a licence), that could be temporary, and let you the time to get your server back ...
Send me a pm if interested.

[jmetsrule]

Man, I was just getting some momentum too with my toons. I hope everything works out. :)

[cavedude]

FNW (hopefully) has convinced somebody at the ISP to take a look at us and get us back up and running. If not, then the earliest we'll be able to do anything is next weekend, when FNW returns from his current business trip.

The offers to host are very generous, but I think we'll stay where we are. Besides, all the character data is on PEQ which I don't have access to, atm :)

[myazmj]

there are lots of places out there that will do dedicated server hosting with the same stats peq runs & bandwidth from a few TB's to unlimited for 100-200$ a month... could just do a donation push like once a year to cover the lease of the gear... best part is the host becomes responsible for keeping the server online instead of peq.

[demonstar55]

there are lots of places out there that will do dedicated server hosting with the same stats peq runs & bandwidth from a few TB's to unlimited for 100-200$ a month... could just do a donation push like once a year to cover the lease of the gear... best part is the host becomes responsible for keeping the server online instead of peq.

Once the data center works out the heating problems (if that is it) then we will have that, for free ;)

[myazmj]

yea, so far seems the dc its in is not up to the task... professionally run DC's that guarentee uptime have to get things like AC's fixed in hours instead of days/weeks. but you get what ya pay for... this case being free so not much lol.

[KingMort]

I think there are several servers that run PEQ databases.

Try ALL Servers...

Every server in Eqemu is some version of the PEQ Database other than Raid Addicts..

And don't worry guys that server is nearly as old as mine , so for SURE they will return... Us old school folks are here to stay..

King Mortenson
Owner - www.raidaddicts.org

[Aergad]

I gotta say ive never heard of a professional DC having these kinds of issues with heating, perhaps its time to think of moving peq to something more reliable? seems every couple of months this happens

[cavedude]

I gotta say ive never heard of a professional DC having these kinds of issues with heating, perhaps its time to think of moving peq to something more reliable? seems every couple of months this happens

Ever since they moved us to a new building, we've had problems. But, the thing is we have access to unlimited uncapped 100mpbs bandwidth using our own Dual Quad Core Xeon box for free. You can't beat that.

[WhereIsTony]

Meh, a problem every couple of months seems a minor thing indeed.

Stick with the free in my opinion.

[Foin]

So i guess from what Ive heard we are down until next weekend at least correct? can anyone confirm this?

[ruinus]

haha, i had just started right before they went down... i miss it XD

[trevius]

So i guess from what Ive heard we are down until next weekend at least correct? can anyone confirm this?

That should be the longest time that it might be down. But, I believe FNW is going to try to contact someone to resolve it before then if possible. So, once the AC issue is all worked out, it should just need a power up.

[KingMort]

AC Issue??

[jmetsrule]

AC Issue??

They are having overheating issues where the servers are. It's understandable that they want to protect the hardware--the stuff is brand new, right?

[Foin]

Heating issues for a week or more doesnt sound right though. Wonder how many computers fried.

[trevius]

It isn't too uncommon for Data Centers to have heating issues during the first warm days of the year. In the building I work at, our server room has the same issue every year. Apparently there is a leak in the coolant and they just have to come back out and refill the coolant again. Normally it shouldn't last a week, but a few days probably isn't uncommon considering how busy AC guys probably are this time of year. The problem is that the low coolant still works fine when the weather isn't hot, because it still cools enough as long as the AC runs high. But, once it gets to a certain point, the AC can't keep it cool enough even if it runs around the clock.

This is just a guess about what is happening in the Data Center that PEQ is hosted in, but I think it is probably a similar case.

[Machem]

ME WANT PEQ!!!:x

[Aztore]

Im guessing its gonna be next week sometime, Im going through withdrawels here.... anyone know a good rehab facility?

[Itchybottom]

It isn't too uncommon for Data Centers to have heating issues during the first warm days of the year. In the building I work at, our server room has the same issue every year. Apparently there is a leak in the coolant and they just have to come back out and refill the coolant again. Normally it shouldn't last a week, but a few days probably isn't uncommon considering how busy AC guys probably are this time of year. The problem is that the low coolant still works fine when the weather isn't hot, because it still cools enough as long as the AC runs high. But, once it gets to a certain point, the AC can't keep it cool enough even if it runs around the clock.

This is just a guess about what is happening in the Data Center that PEQ is hosted in, but I think it is probably a similar case.

I presume by coolant, that the server room at the company you work for uses portable units rather than a centralized system. HVAC industry doesn't really use freon-based systems anymore, it's all peltier/radiator closed systems in the 'modern world'. And I disagree, I think that this sort of downtime at any type of host is rare. In the hosting industry, unless you can't guarantee your customers 99.6% uptime, you end up with backed out investors, and losing business to someone that CAN provide such a service. I've seen some pretty gnarly rigging in datacenters to cut corners (like huge box fans with furnace filters duct taped to both sides rather than a ventilation filter to keep dust down) but in all of my professional experience I have yet to see a datacenter that hasn't planned the server builds around the room design and power source usage.

Portable and window unit air conditioning systems are influenced by external temperature, you'll end up freezing the compressor if you run it during cold weather. You'll also bend the copper pipes in the unit if you operate them far out of humidity specification (an air conditioner doubles as a dehumidifier, so if humidity is low, there are problems)

A sufficient BTU centralized air conditioning system is easily approximated like this:

Floor area * 340 + Humans (425 * permanent occupant count) + Power/network equipment (wattage * 3.5) + Lights (wattage * 4.25) == total BTU cooling capacity needed for an application

I didn't mention windows, because most datacenters don't have them. I'm sure a quick Google search could yield how to calculate them though.

Today's virtualized datacenters usually require 3.8k BTU per two 24U cabinets give or take 300 - direct push due to the heat being centralized rather than equalized across the floor plan. MOST companies also have capacity to spare (cooling-wise) for expansion in the original design already calculated and have to adhere to those guidelines for insurance purposes.

[demonstar55]

My guess is they're concentrating on the people that actually pay for their services and not PEQ

[aaron1231]

Man I can fix AC units... Thats what I do.

[Aztore]

Oh great PEQ where hath thou gone!

[Asteroidea]

This must be my fault every time i get all ready to come back to EQ the server dies for a week or 2 before i can play lol.

[tobbygnome]

ye i feel quite weird actually, i havent played EQ In YEARSSSS, then i come back to play and its soo epic and fun and nostalgic because its massively oldschool compared to what i usually play, and all these good feelings and memories are coming back and then all of a sudden, BAM, and the server is dead, rofl, and the funny thing is, im in year 12 at the moment and had just started playing right near the end of the holidays, and right when i had to go back to school, the server died, is this a sign that year 12 and everquest dont go together, maybe, if so then this is all my folt and some higher power is stuffing the AC up just to make me not fail at school :D.

Hope you all enjoy your withdrawal symptons, Tobbygnome.

[Babkan]

Looks like my move this last weekend didn't cause me to miss to much then. We started moving Saturday and onl y got half done as we had 5 tornadoes within sight ot the house and 6" rain. We finish up this saturday and maybe they will have the internet up at the new house by then.

Side not if someone from norathians could pm me the guild website i would apprecciate it.

Thanks

Babkan

[zenthes]

Looks like my move this last weekend didn't cause me to miss to much then. We started moving Saturday and onl y got half done as we had 5 tornadoes within sight ot the house and 6" rain. We finish up this saturday and maybe they will have the internet up at the new house by then.

Side not if someone from norathians could pm me the guild website i would apprecciate it.

Thanks

Babkan

Man 5 tornadoes, what a welcoming crew!

[jellyini]

Any word on a restart yet?

J

[PathToEternity]

Come beta test Project 1999! Play EQ like it used to be :)

[caylah023]

ac problem.....the server needed a gear upgrade so it could tank the main IT mob for its epic 2.0

[jolinarlorian]

I can hit projecteq.net now. I'm not at home so I can't check the game server but looks promising

[steveprutz]

the server needed a gear upgrade so it could tank the main IT mob for its epic 2.0

ROFL.

By the way, I was able to load ProjectEQ.net this afternoon. No update on the News there, however.

[cavedude]

Yes there was, under General. The game server has been up all day, now we're just waiting on the LS to come back up.