Why is Mortalquest still a green server?

[icon41gimp]

As of now there are 0 players online and consistently below 5 players at all times.

How is this a green server?

BTW vz/tz has 85+ players on as of 2pm cst, so that definitely needs to stay green cus it rox

[crazycloud]

True story. Sever is dead and no GM's ever log into the server.

[Secrets]

I abandoned it. I'm just waiting for Rogean to remove it.

I can't do both P1999 and MortalQuest. I know it's supposed to be removed. I don't even want it on preferred, you guys aren't alone there.

It was green initially because of the spike in popularity.

[Schizophrenic.Saiko]

server is not dead we have about 10 to 15 active players everyday...this is a bunch of crap im pretty pissed right now....only reason people left is cuz they couldnt grief, it has a small tight knit community that Psykes and them are trying to build

[Schizophrenic.Saiko]

the server currently is fine how it is there is no reason to bring it down...if you loolk at the log files there is a lot of us stil lhere playing and we are 50+ and contributing to the lower level players, dont abandon us....the only reaosn there was such a huge spike was because of the griefing ability...now that the has been removed the community will grow like it is supposed to

[Secrets]

server is not dead we have about 10 to 15 active players everyday...this is a bunch of crap im pretty pissed right now....only reason people left is cuz they couldnt grief, it has a small tight knit community that Psykes and them are trying to build

I'll give you guys the database if you want it. 15 active players is not enough to warrant preferred status, or moreso my interest in actively developing.

[Schizophrenic.Saiko]

screw the preferred status, just leave the server up how it was

[Schizophrenic.Saiko]

just cuz i dont post on forums doesnt mean im not active, this is Psykes if you dont know...and ive been here since day 1.....we currently hvae about 15 people that play every night, with new people coming everyday...about 10 people are in their 50's

[Schizophrenic.Saiko]

im beating a dead horse, there is a lot of us in the community that have dedicated ourselves to this srever and getting people to join.....the issue here is Secrets you changed a lot of shit at beginning that drew in the hackers...the way the server is now, hackers dont like it whcih is good and why its smaller community, we dont need 100 peopple to survive, we are growing slowly

[Secrets]

I think the server would be better in the hands of someone that actually cared, so, since you seem to care...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/3w2b4e

[Schizophrenic.Saiko]

i do care, but im not a dev...but if server stays up we can get community to grow...server is fine as long as it is up...but if its down we cant do nothing, Im not saying I want to run the server, I just want to attract interest to it and try and grow the community and find someone who wants to do it

[Secrets]

well i posted the source + db. it's up on non-preferred. ask me if you find someone that wants to take it over.

[Schizophrenic.Saiko]

dont let anyone take it over, just leave it the way it is right now and we will as a community figure things out as it goes...we dont want 10million changes like what happened so far

[eqemuross]

I'd love to utilize the hosting space Rogean gave to you Secrets,to recreate one of my servers. Either Crucify PvP or Qeynos Vs. Freeport PvP. I know a ton of ex-players would love to play this server, I just need a reliable host so I can develop the server properly.

I know my server would get alot of support and they were both pretty popular for the short time they were up. Please let me know if this is a possibility... EQEMU is dying for a great custom PvP server.

[SolidusSZ]

I'd love to utilize the hosting space Rogean gave to you Secrets,to recreate one of my servers. Either Crucify PvP or Qeynos Vs. Freeport PvP. I know a ton of ex-players would love to play this server, I just need a reliable host so I can develop the server properly.

I know my server would get alot of support and they were both pretty popular for the short time they were up. Please let me know if this is a possibility... EQEMU is dying for a great custom PvP server.

This man is correct. The most glaring weakness EQEMU has, in terms of types of servers available, is its lack of custom PvP server. I have played every major legit/custom PvP server, including MortalQuest, since January '09; and I can confirm that Vile has put together the most impressive custom PvP servers that I've played on. If given the server space, I can say with utmost confidence, that Vile's server will excel in terms of playerbase, be competently ran, and will fill the void of EQEMU Custom PvP.

[eqplaytime1]

I'd love to utilize the hosting space Rogean gave to you Secrets,to recreate one of my servers. Either Crucify PvP or Qeynos Vs. Freeport PvP. I know a ton of ex-players would love to play this server, I just need a reliable host so I can develop the server properly.

I know my server would get alot of support and they were both pretty popular for the short time they were up. Please let me know if this is a possibility... EQEMU is dying for a great custom PvP server.

Do this. This right here.

[notknowing]

Ill definitely play if this happens.

[crazycloud]

Me and my Brother would play this 100 % if it comes out. We are really looking for a custom pvp server with a active GM. Viles other pvp server was fun.

[Schizophrenic.Saiko]

if vile's other pvp server was fun why is it not up any longer....asking to use the space for another server instead of what we are already have going kinda sucks and is kind of bullshit in my opinion, taking what we have so you can have yours.....we have to rebuild our community because of the changes that were made without testing 1st and the hackers that killed our server.

[crazycloud]

You killed your own server Kiera, stop being a little bitch complaining all the time. MQ is a PVE server now they should just remove the PvP aspect of it. There's a reason why the population died out. It's cause when a GM listens to PVE nubs for changes! Those same people who cried for changes quit when they got it. On a server like Viles FP vs Qeynos you can take off /who all zone you know why? because theres only 10ish zones to look for people. You keep saying the servers going to grow but as each day passes it goes down more.

[Schizophrenic.Saiko]

im sorry but if whta you are looking for is guild wars...go play that.....pve is a fun part of the game and pvp is secondary, if you gonna quit cuz you cant grief lowbies then we dont want you anyways

[Schizophrenic.Saiko]

changes that are being made...1) PvE damage to melee's fixed and 25% mitigation bonus & +50 base to all resists to melee classes to make them viable 2) Skill resets will go in line with levls you lost IE: you go to 34, you have skills of a level 34 not skills of a level 1....3) PvP open to the following 10-15.....15-25...25-35...35-45..45-60

[crazycloud]

No one quit because of the level range, be ignorant more pal. Matter of fact we were the ones who wanted a level range to be put it.

not being able to /who all killed the server.

Now in your opinion PVE is the fun part of the game. My opinion PvP is the fun part of the game and PvE is what makes you stronger for PvP. If you make PvP fun PvE will always come no matter what. People will always battle for loot mobs. On MQ you cant battle for loot mobs! because you can't find anyone anymore, this is a fact. Those same changes you said that were being made has been said forever now. No GM actively working on the server = dead server period. Secrets said it himself he abandoned the server.

The point I'm trying to make here is PvP isn't fun anymore because you can't find PvP. Only way MQ would work right now if it turns into a custom server with 15 zones MAX. Otherwise turn back on /who zonename. Even when the server had 20 people on ( which was about what 4-5 days ago ) it was hard for me to find pvp.

If you want PvE that's what P99 is for go play that. ( i can play that game also pal )

[Schizophrenic.Saiko]

why should you be able to look at a zone instad of going there to check it out...it made it too easy to grief, that was one of the best things put in

[crazycloud]

Because EQ is a LARGE scale game. Your server doesn't carry a large amount of people "Fact". Even VZTZ with the amount of players it has right now 80ish every night if you turn on anonymous the pvp will die instantly and people will quit. You need 300+ people for that shit to work.

Why should you search 50 zones before you find 1 person? hey guys lets waste 2 hours of our time to search for 1 guy who will just gate as soon as you zone in. Makes alot of sense doesn't it?

[Schizophrenic.Saiko]

what you dont get is EMU community is not supposed to be like live....a small group of people that are here to have fun not be 3L33T is all we want...so if thats what your looking for, go elsewhere

[Schizophrenic.Saiko]

talking to you is like speakign with a middle schooler, all you care about is griefing and being able to grief if you want...you care nothing about making the server better for all...you only want to be the best

[cuntnugget]

if by whatever nonsense u just wrote u meant "crazycloud u just want a pvp server and i want a pve server" then i agree with u completely

[crazycloud]

Heh this guy is funny. He goes "don't you get it its not supposed to be live like" then in game he goes well on live it wasn't that way! what a idiot. P99 tries its best to make there server live like. Look at the population! Look how well its doing right now. They have active GM's who actively work on the server to make it like live.

You have no idea what griefing is. If you think me looking for someone to kill near my level is griefing oh boy you haven't seen grief yet. No fucking shit i want to be the best on a pvp server? who the hell doesn't? "hey guys lets be the worse at pvp ok?" yeah makes sense!


All this guy does is complain with nonsense about. "Go away its my server", "well if you don't like it o well leave", "go find your own server to host on".

[eqemuross]

if vile's other pvp server was fun why is it not up any longer....asking to use the space for another server instead of what we are already have going kinda sucks and is kind of bullshit in my opinion, taking what we have so you can have yours.....we have to rebuild our community because of the changes that were made without testing 1st and the hackers that killed our server.

My server is no longer up because I ran it on my cable modem, and the up time was sketchy since I have a room mate that likes to play PS3/Xbox online and as soon as he'd get on I'd have to take the server down. I didn't think it was fair to the playerbase to host a server like that and it wasn't fun developing on a server that would have to come down all the time.

[assail]

My server is no longer up because I ran it on my cable modem, and the up time was sketchy since I have a room mate that likes to play PS3/Xbox online and as soon as he'd get on I'd have to take the server down. I didn't think it was fair to the playerbase to host a server like that and it wasn't fun developing on a server that would have to come down all the time.

how dare you respond to this whiny bitch with logic and reason, gtfo. This community has no room for level headed, reasonable, developers interested in creating a custom pvp server

[Secrets]

I'd love to utilize the hosting space Rogean gave to you Secrets,to recreate one of my servers. Either Crucify PvP or Qeynos Vs. Freeport PvP. I know a ton of ex-players would love to play this server, I just need a reliable host so I can develop the server properly.

I know my server would get alot of support and they were both pretty popular for the short time they were up. Please let me know if this is a possibility... EQEMU is dying for a great custom PvP server.

That would not be up to me, and Rogean would probably have to sell you the space.

That being said, if I was involved with development and not player relations, I would be willing to assist you in developing the server, and it would be a possibility that my space would be used.

My only weakness is that I cannot and will not get involved in player relations. I despise them (the players) deeply, because a lot of them are whiny bitches.
I'd let you take in player feedback but I would let you determine what feedback we should implement. My talent is there, I am just lacking direction, and MortalQuest was proof of this.

All being said i'd like to see a custom PvP server. My server was too much for me to handle alone... so if you're the second person I need to give me a bit of guidance, so be it.

[icon41gimp]

secrets+vile, do it.

Viles server(s) were great but limited based on his connection. Vile knows how to deal with the PVP community and being a PVPer himself knows how to develop a server which would be fun for the best pvpers as well as the worst. He's also very impartial when it comes to players, won't show favorites over someone he just met to someone he's played with on vztz for years.

[tasu]

Man this would rock, I've been waiting for a server like this to come out for a while now.

Hope this happens.

[Schizophrenic.Saiko]

Secrets MQ server was made and the way it is right now is working well for a PvE server with some PvP, there will be changes made that I would like to implement, however this server imo is not to be restricted to a 10 or 15 zone limit...not something the people that we want to play with want either,

This is not guildwars and we dont wnat a server like that, I am working on this server currently to build a community and willnot deal with whining with the changes you want to be made. You dont like it, dont play here, go elsewhere simple as that.

Everyone has their own views on what they like, and now that secrets is not involved from a player relation status and just wants to DEV, we can get this server fixed to fit our vision not some Griefing PvP GankFest from the hackers like we had.

[icon41gimp]

A server with all indifferent mobs is not PVE. It's not even dumbed down PVE, it's just laughable. Sorry to tell you.

[SolidusSZ]

Saiko, you're asking that the server be preserved, even though it's now a ghost-town with ~5 people online, when the space could be put to better use for the emu community. This just isn't selfish, it's inefficient.

Anyhow, a Secrets+Vile server would be great. It would easily be the go-to server for custom PvP.

[Schizophrenic.Saiko]

really...why not let our community grow, why is it your opinion that something we enjoy is taken off and removed entirely just because you want the space for something you feel is better. We are willing to donate for server hosting and development, We are not looking for handouts or to take other servers space like this previous sugggestion was to take ours.

This is the last comment i post on this, we have great small knit community that will grow in time, we dont expect it to compete with another server or to be very large. But we also are not looking to take hijack server hosting space either like what is trying to be done to us

[crazycloud]

Stop crying! no one is hijacking "Your" space. It isn't yours, be happy he ran it in the first place. If they want to team up with vile they can. He posted the Database for the server. Run it if you want it it's that simple. The community would rather a server with 20 + people then 2 people. It's not what you only want. Your the reason he didn't want to deal with MQ in the first place. Complain so damn much.

[Schizophrenic.Saiko]

bullshit, ive been on server since day 1 and NEVER requested ANY changes so there goes your theory ..SECRETS will back me up on this

[Rogean]

How is this a green server?

To answer the OP Question:

Because it's run by an EQEmu developer.

And we don't need to give you a reason.

Other than that, carry on~

[crazycloud]

bullshit, ive been on server since day 1 and NEVER requested ANY changes so there goes your theory ..SECRETS will back me up on this


This quote proves my point on how you don't listen or read what people write. I never said you requested any changes i said you complain so damn much. He was tired of people complaining so damn much.


Do i have to really quote you on all your complaining on this thread?

[Secrets]

Saiko, you're asking that the server be preserved, even though it's now a ghost-town with ~5 people online, when the space could be put to better use for the emu community. This just isn't selfish, it's inefficient.

Anyhow, a Secrets+Vile server would be great. It would easily be the go-to server for custom PvP.

This post is so full of win.

Also, I am planning to run a Secrets+Vile PVP server. Him and I are in talks about it now. I'd have control over the server box, and he'd have creative design all under his control. I know next to nothing about PVP. I will admit that. Vile has been in the PVP community for much much longer than I have, and he seems like the perfect candidate for a creative developer, I will still be able to code (and all the coding in C++ will likely be done by me, but shared with him)

We're thinking of doing a faction-based PVP server. It's not going to be one of those "we finished it in a day, here it is guys" servers. In fact, we haven't even discussed specifics other than it'll be like Qeynos vs Freeport. So keep your eyes open, a PvP server will come eventually. I will also leave player relations to Vile, he's more than able to recruit GMs and police things by himself (I could care less about that stuff, really, and I think that's also the reason MortalQuest died.)

Some things to note: You won't be able to PvP your own faction this time around with this server. I tweaked the code to make the inter-faction abilities limited. That's already coded.

So to recap for you tl;drers, I won't have creative control over this new project, but I will be doing the coding/sysadmin'ing. Essentially, it's going to be custom EQ PvP.

Hope that gets some of your hopes up.

[eqplaytime1]

This is awesome. Thank you.

[crazycloud]

Nice! i like team pvp.

Good luck to both of you.

[Hassel]

Sullon Zek rules with up to and including SoL please (no Pop Books!)

Looking forward to what ever you end up doing.