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IsntWarsaint
04-19-2011, 01:50 AM
So..

With VTZ dried up and promising new PvP servers upcoming (thanks image), would anyone agree that something to bridge the gap would be nice?
Such as a server like that good ole Qeynos vs Freeport? Or the old Empire PvP server?. Something that we can have fun on, without having to put serious time into leveling/gearing. I know someone out there must have one of these databases they could throw up, no doubt they will conjure a bit of popularity due to the VTZ population sitting in the lurch, and no decent PvP servers currently up.

Amirite?

Naes
04-19-2011, 01:53 AM
Vile and I were planning something in May, to tide over until "the next big thing". I would go sooner, but don't have hosting til he moves into new place. Also Tarwine was working on a server too.

Secrets
04-19-2011, 02:22 AM
I would have made a QvF V3, however, I feel like it's too high-pressure to maintain. That being said I could remake it in a matter of days.

Keep your eyes peeled for Altergate, I did do a bit of coding on that project (item worth system, colored names) and I think Tarwine did an excellent job on the content. It reminds me of old eq with a modern feel.

There's also those PvP Server forums on P1999's forums. I don't know what they are planning yet, so don't ask.

Lane
04-19-2011, 03:48 PM
I would have made a QvF V3, however, I feel like it's too high-pressure to maintain. That being said I could remake it in a matter of days.
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What about a remake, and just put the server as SZ no rule set? The die hards will come and pvp and have fun and you won't have to stress out about governing the server

Naes
04-19-2011, 05:33 PM
"high-pressure to maintain"

meaning having to:

- ban all the retards blatantly acking
- deal with forum trolls
- listen to QQ about imbalances
- fix bugs and exploits no1 bothers reporting until someone else starts abusing
- update content cuz everyone bitches

Lane
04-19-2011, 07:06 PM
I've never played QvF, and I'm sure the server kicked ass, but I don't think any one is currently asking for a real stable box, but instead something to kill time with while we wait for either R99 or altergate.

With that being said, a copy/paste of the previous QvF box would more than suffice people's demands. Regarding class imbalances/whatever, just tell people that things are going to remain the way they are, and just adapt to how it is.

Sounds like I'd have a blast playing on the QvF server when I have some spare time on weekends/a few hrs a night.

More of a casual type box than hardcore "get my pixels," and become the #1 on server.
Oh btw regarding hacking, perhaps contact vztz staff on the anti hacking system they had going there, it was great. And also disable maps, because in all honesty, not only does it prevent mq2 maps/SEQ, but maps aren't necessary.

IsntWarsaint
04-19-2011, 09:58 PM
Oh btw regarding hacking, perhaps contact vztz staff on the anti hacking system they had going there, it was great. And also disable maps, because in all honesty, not only does it prevent mq2 maps/SEQ, but maps aren't necessary.

I personally don't believe their's such thing as an "anti hacking system", the only way to stop hackers is to ban them, eventually they will get sick of making new accounts. Thats coming from personal experience.

Not everyone cheats, and cheaters will cheat, thats how it goes.

I just hope Altergate doesn't take too long, a QvF even just in the mean time would be nice.

Bamzal
04-20-2011, 01:57 AM
I am hosting a PvP server to kill time on, before Red99 is released. Rallon Zek PvP
Check it out!

IsntWarsaint
04-20-2011, 02:59 AM
I am hosting a PvP server to kill time on, before Red99 is released. Rallon Zek PvP
Check it out!

I did check it out.

The issue is that the exp rate is extremely low, it's too time consuming. Referring to my first post, we need a stepping stone type of server, somewhere that we can have fun without breaking our backs just getting to 50. If you up the exp rate, and make it known, make posts on the forum, give the server a more attractive name maybe?. People are gonna see "Rallon Zek PvP" and just say "Ugh, not another one..".. thats what I said anyway. And take all those horrible symbols off the beginning of the name, people do look at the entire server list, and its usually the horrid servers that use symbols to get them at the top of the list, makes them look cheapo.

If you up the exp rate 'alot', I will play for sure.

Secrets
04-20-2011, 04:27 AM
I just hope Altergate doesn't take too long, a QvF even just in the mean time would be nice.

Altergate isn't going to take very long, however, I will look into making a temporary QvF PvP server until both Altergate and Red99 (if it happens) are released.

I dunno if it would have any interest though.

Arthurious
04-20-2011, 12:07 PM
I think there will be quite a bit of interest. QvF was a great time and honestly won't take much policeing aside from banning ackers.

Interest +1

Packet
04-20-2011, 01:37 PM
Altergate isn't going to take very long, however, I will look into making a temporary QvF PvP server until both Altergate and Red99 (if it happens) are released.

I dunno if it would have any interest though.

Probably not much satisfaction in a temp. pvp server.

Jonathan5
04-20-2011, 07:24 PM
The issue is that the exp rate is extremely low, it's too time consuming. Referring to my first post, we need a stepping stone type of server, somewhere that we can have fun without breaking our backs just getting to 50.

This.

Having a server that doesn't take it self too seriously just to kill sometime with would be great. Increase that exp rate and I'll play as well.

Jonathan5
04-20-2011, 08:30 PM
Playing on here now and I noticed the exp rate is already increased to some degree. Did the first quest (turned in the tattered note) and I dinged level 2.

Bamzal
04-20-2011, 10:46 PM
When did you guys play? I did increase XP rate yesterday X4 - Is that better fer ya?

Cleaned up the name too

IsntWarsaint
04-21-2011, 03:07 AM
I tried just 5 minutes ago, needs to be higher still. Alot higher. 10x what it is currently.

That way people can get to 50, start collecting gear and having some pvp fun

Arthurious
04-21-2011, 03:32 AM
you would need to A) increase xp as mentioned before, and B) advertise to get a good following, but honestly with QvF incoming soon as a hold over until Red99 gets rolling I don't know if a full classic rallos style will see a lot of play right now.

IsntWarsaint
04-21-2011, 05:26 PM
The server appears to have 'some' players.

Ive been watching the Rallos Zek server, if the exp rate is upped to a decent amount, I think it may attract some people.

Bamzal
04-21-2011, 08:10 PM
I'll increase xp rate some more.

Unfortunatly the database I started with, PEQ, is not very classic and there doesn't seem to be many options available. I wish I could get my hands on a classic db.

IsntWarsaint
04-21-2011, 09:28 PM
Up it alot, I'll play as soon as you've upped it heaps :P

Jonathan5
04-21-2011, 10:22 PM
I'll increase xp rate some more.

Yay.

Unfortunatly the database I started with, PEQ, is not very classic and there doesn't seem to be many options available. I wish I could get my hands on a classic db.

Which PEQ release are you using? Also, have you looked into AXclassic?

Bamzal
04-21-2011, 11:19 PM
Looked at AXclassic first thinking "it sounds classic".. it is so far from classic that i had to try PEQ right after logging in. Havent been able to find anything more classic since PEQ, or anything at all for that matter. I'm running the latest, peqdb_rev1751, sourced in all the updates since.

Bamzal
04-21-2011, 11:31 PM
I tried just 5 minutes ago, needs to be higher still. Alot higher. 10x what it is currently.

That way people can get to 50, start collecting gear and having some pvp fun

Did exactly that

IsntWarsaint
04-22-2011, 02:49 AM
Server is starting to pick up! Well done Bamzal.

Just FYI, due to the code you're using, unguilded players cant use skills like Bash/Kick etc against other unguilded players.

Secrets
04-22-2011, 03:18 AM
Server is starting to pick up! Well done Bamzal.

Just FYI, due to the code you're using, unguilded players cant use skills like Bash/Kick etc against other unguilded players.

That's not due to the code, that's due to the rules in the client that check player versus player combat. It won't send the skill packets if they are not within 5 levels. (that's with the default rallos ruleset)

You'd need to change the pvp flag setting to something like 2 or 4 (4 preferrably) to allow for that to happen. (VZ/TZ ruleset, or SZ ruleset is 4)

That also requires latest SVN though, I don't know how adept this guy is in compiling :P

IsntWarsaint
04-22-2011, 07:59 AM
Why is the server dooooooooooooown? ;/

Lane
04-22-2011, 11:28 AM
Last I saw, he said he was restarting server at about 1 am pst. I called it a night, so I'm assuming he didn't just turn it back on.

IsntWarsaint
04-22-2011, 05:36 PM
Its back up but cant login, boots back to login screen.

IsntWarsaint
04-22-2011, 06:19 PM
looks like it may require a reboot

Arthurious
04-22-2011, 06:36 PM
Reboot pleeeezz!

IsntWarsaint
04-22-2011, 09:12 PM
The reboot didn't appear to fix the issue, you may need to undo whatever it was you did when you took it down lol.


Edit: Says theres 2 people on.

I can't connect still though, boots me back to login screen.

IsntWarsaint
04-22-2011, 10:20 PM
This sucks =/

Lane
04-23-2011, 12:56 AM
What's up with server?

IsntWarsaint
04-23-2011, 01:49 AM
Not sure, seems nobody can connect to it. Bamzal is MIA lol

Arthurious
04-23-2011, 01:36 PM
Halp Bam!!!

IsntWarsaint
04-23-2011, 07:24 PM
^ agreed. Bamzal where art thou.

Bamzal
04-23-2011, 07:28 PM
I reverted the changes yesterday and had no issues logging in locally. Was trying to test with an external connection but couldn't find a solid open wifi in range. I'll be home in 30 min and will start it up again. Hopefully no issues.

IsntWarsaint
04-23-2011, 08:01 PM
^ Hes Alive

Lane
04-24-2011, 12:51 AM
Server hit 20+ people then took a nose dive with a crash. Hopefully it can handle some people..

IsntWarsaint
04-24-2011, 09:55 PM
Lots of spells missing from the game, Wizards got hit pretty hard.
Maybe a spell scriber is in order.

Auxie
04-25-2011, 02:20 PM
this is the kind of issue i get sometimes if my internal router IP changes and I don't update the IP that the open ports are associated with.

I can still connect internally to my server but nobody else in the world will get in.

flipmog
04-26-2011, 03:51 PM
Tox is down... char stuck

wendolyne
05-17-2011, 03:03 PM
Someone join me on the instant pvp server. I wants keels!

IsntWarsaint
05-18-2011, 05:01 AM
Tried.. cant connect. Boots back to login.