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wolfgang
11-03-2002, 05:08 AM
would it possible to build a new zone

i was thinking of Lower Blackburrow where the gnolls make black burrow stout and anyone interested in helping me on project?
all in the pure idealism of programing.

DeletedUser
11-04-2002, 12:14 PM
Possible to make a new zone?
Yes

Is it likely you are going to make a new zone?
No


Even if you did, distributing the file would have verant on your ass.

flipper
11-04-2002, 12:56 PM
Anyone is free to distribute a new zone as long as you do not use any of SoE's proprietary/copy righted data in doing so. If you start from scratch and make your own zone file, then I *think* you would be free to distribute it. SoE can't do a thing about someone distributing files titled foo.s3d, if you didnt steal any of their copyrighted material in doing so.

quester
11-04-2002, 01:40 PM
You'd have to use your own models, artwork, etc.

Even then, if they really wanted to, they could probably nail you for using thier file format.

Windcatcher
11-04-2002, 01:48 PM
File formats can't be copyrighted or patented, period. If you reverse engineer it WITHOUT looking at their code or disassemling their program, it's 100% legal. You can even dissect files of the same type (i.e. other .s3d files).

quester
11-04-2002, 02:01 PM
File formats can't be copyrighted or patented, period.

Damn ironic, considering less specific crap has been recently copyrighted that should never have been allowed.

DeletedUser
11-04-2002, 02:24 PM
actually if you didnt know, SoE had to buy the rights to use mp3s in EverQuest :P

DeletedUser
11-04-2002, 02:31 PM
:p its not like they dont have enough money to buy everyone hookers, they are money hungry asses.

Windcatcher
11-04-2002, 02:56 PM
With regard to mp3, the file format isn't the issue. It's the Fraunhofer codec. The compression algorithm is patented, NOT the file format.

DeletedUser
11-05-2002, 07:26 AM
and how hard would it be to figure out how they created the zones? :rolleyes:

wolfgang
11-05-2002, 03:32 PM
yea i was wondering how hard it would be to build you own lvl is all a good point..not like im trying to dist it or anything i just want to learn about lvl building and programing ..been into computer repair too long not makeing and money at it like to learn something new.

DeletedUser
11-06-2002, 07:22 AM
they were made with 3d studios max i heard but theres something about them that makes them special.

i.e: something that you need so it will work with EQ.

ZeroDegrez
11-06-2002, 01:18 PM
Perhaps I am foolish in thinking this...but, If you can make a program to read in the zones then display them on the screen...what prevents someone from writing a new zone if they know how to read it already?

DeletedUser
11-06-2002, 03:37 PM
im guessing they need to know the info that makes them run. All the special info involved.

Pvp? Water? Etc.

Wynsom
11-07-2002, 07:00 PM
They use a plug-in for 3d Studio Max called 'Real3d' or something for zone layout. Ive tried to get ahold of it a couple years back when I first learned of it but its hard to find. Somebody out there must know something about it. They might not even use it anymore.

steve
11-07-2002, 07:19 PM
quester would be the person to know, if anyone.