The Classic Server!

[rlie_0]

Hello everyone!

Thanks for taking the time to read this post I've been wanting to start up a project like this for some time now.

Gonna try and keep this short and simple. My server is A Rlie Server. Its a standard server, and this is what ive been working on and is still a work in progress. Im working on classical spells, armor, loot, ect. Mostly been spending my time correcting all of that removing mobs that are not part of classic on down. Most quests now work. What I'm asking is this, I need some test monkeys that want to play around on the server and test it out. Then, during your adventures give me corrects and errors that need fixing (like items that shouldnt be dropping, quests that shouldnt be given, mobs that shouldnt be there ect) Id be happy to help provide twink gear to allow for easier leveling, also I can provide a bind soul item to allow you to bind anywhere you wish (like firepots for travel) be warned if you do die, there will be a CR...this could be disabled for testing if it becomes an issue.

My project outline looks something like this - Classic with a twist. Currently I got Luclin on down open for everyone to use freely. Ive went back and added (NOT REPLACED) removed items from the game that were dropped, so if it dropped during any point during Classic Kunark, Velious, and Luclin, it should be still dropping. Both the NON NERFED version as well as the nerfed (I.E. Manastone, Jboots, Fungi staff(both versions), Runed Fighters Staff, Mosscovered Twig, Wurmslayer, ect). If I missed anything please let me know.

Currently working on items that were nerfed such as Mosscovered twig, and Wurmslayer. They both (nerfed and un-nerfed) are currently dropping / quested, they do have the SAME name, inspecting is the only way to tell the difference. Wurmslayer quest has not changed, however the reward could be the nerfed or UN nerfed version. If this becomes an issues it can be subject to change.

Also working on vamping zones back down to their classic state, like CT Death Touching, and golems not. Loots being correct for Hate/Fear This by far is my biggest task and is still being worked on. Also Boats are being worked on and are no working, this task would be near the end of the list of things to correct as I know there are so many other things to get corrected. If you think you can help test with any of this let me know!

As for my final twist to the server is corrections to some epics. Its all subject to change, but some epics remained overly hard due to the lack of mobs that could drop items needed, and some felt even with Velious it helped, hurt some epics(such as Velious helped Mage, Ranger, Druid, but made Cleric alittle harder with skyfire farming). Im willing to address these, and apply fixes to help, I have applied fixes to the Warrior epic, and Cleric epics already! They remain mostly untouched just minor problems have been addressed. Its up to YOU the player to find out these changes!

Thanks for any who see and hopefully you enjoy the classical no nerf server!

[Maze_EQ]

It's been done before.

[Tabasco]

It's been done before.

I didn't know complete originality was a requirement for new servers.

At this point most enjoyable mechanics have been demoed and toyed with and the only thing truly original to be found is content. New takes on existing mechanics and ideas compose the backbone of some of the most popular servers and that's not a bad thing.

At least let him get his implementation out there before you start crapping all over his work.

[sunbeam]

A lot of people have been working at removing all the non-classic drops independently, on various servers.

It's kind of a shame people aren't sharing their databases in this regard.

Why don't you send Furniture a message? Not sure exactly what he is in regards to The Vengful Soloist anymore, but he still makes code changes from what I can tell on the forums. And he did a lot of work making it classic.

Maybe he could help you with this? I'm pretty sure others have done the same thing in the past.

Best thing to do in my opinion though, is for for whoever has the official copy of the database for EQEMU to store various versions of the database.

Just as a guess I'd say most "Classic" servers seem to stop at Velious. Some go to Luclin and PoP.

GoD and OoW don't seem to be that popular with anyone. Maybe "cleaned" databases for Velious Era, Luclin Era, and PoP era would be in order? And if you wanted items included that later got nerfed into the casino or outright removed or altered you could do it manually.

As regards your idea of a classic server, totally on its own...

Think about it. It's pretty easy for a mage or necro to solo on up. But a warrior, paladin, sk, rogue starting with that short sword?

Doable I guess. But then what? If you don't have boxing then they are severely limited on what they can do, super farmed gear or no.

On most of these classic themed servers the problem is masked slightly by the starting gear, the out of era quests, and the fact that you can get your necro main or whatever to farm you some centi shortswords.

But it's not so easy if you don't have that, for some classes at least.

[rhyotte]

Yeah, for low population servers, you really need to tweak the classic up a bit.

[rlie_0]

I do work with Furniture. He has taken a leave somewhat, Im just building on what he wanted to do, which was completely finish a classic era , and release a correct server / DB. I'm looking for people willing to test this out and check out atlease the solo / group stuff. Thats why Id like the testers to spot things I have yet to see.

I unlike P99 will allow boxing(2/3 boxing only to fair, and for small pops but dont want people go crazy with it). On the P99 its very hard to get anything done in a timely manner mostly you have to get lucky if it requires a group to farm it.

So currently my project will detail in being time locked instead of progression, and with the lack of actually fully removing or nerfing items completely, no matter when you come to the server or find out about EQ Emu servers, the chance to farm it like you could have will always be there. I see a lot of times on the P99, Yeah I just joined a few weeks / month ago so i missed out on such and such. This also allows once completed someone to pick up the DB and make minor changes to get a fully classic / kunark set server.

My server offers that chance to farm it (tho with more time / work) to earn it yourself and not be forced to spend days, weeks, and months farming Seafurys in OoTears or what not to earn plat to buy the item from people who at random raise and lower said items. Or some people like me, wounder if the items were to powerful and experience it myself. The server wouldnt come into full force until after the DB is near completed tho.

Once I do finish the DB tho, I got my own set of plans to expand and help each class, in terms of making secondary epic lines each with there own quests so not a lot of lay over from everyone trying to do the same quest (like you see with most other servers). But these plans are way down the road and main focus is getting the DB set.

[rhyotte]

Seems pretty cool. I take it you will have classic Cazic etc...?

[Maze_EQ]

i had classic Cazic.

[rlie_0]

Im still new to this, re doing a while zone Id need help with to ensure its all correct with mobs, loot ect. Ill take a look see and check it out to see what that zone looks like.

[Tyen05]

praise, keep doin it big rile.

Ignore everything Maze has to say, pretty sure he is legally retarded

[satora54]

Confirmed Maze is legally retarded, Keep on keeping on Rlie.

[rlie_0]

Thanks for the support of this project. Some people may think hey the P99 is good enough for me...I however like offering something most others put a spin to.

A server thats time locked at an expasion, with no nerfs (or atlease both nerfed and un-nerfed share a loot table) allows every player new or old same classic feeling weather they just discovered EQ for the first time or are a long time vet who wants remember what pre nerf items did. This server could provide that for them. Although no one has sony's old servers they probly keep locked away at their HQ's basement collecting dust, we can do our best to try and bring alive the days of old. Some people just love remembering their fun days as a young adult, or kid.

Im hoping this is something that grows on some as a way to enjoy the game without the fear of the nerf sticks always killing our good time, and God only knows how many times Sony appeared to enjoy doing that! Hence to why we are here and NOT discussing this on a Sony based forum.

[Maze_EQ]

Maze is retarded, half life 3 confirmed.

[845flatland]

but some epics remained overly hard due to the lack of mobs that could drop items needed, and some felt even with Velious it helped, hurt some epics(such as Velious helped Mage, Ranger, Druid, but made Cleric alittle harder with skyfire farming).

I admit im hungover, but what the fuck does this even say

[rlie_0]

but some epics remained overly hard due to the lack of mobs that could drop items needed, and some felt even with Velious it helped, hurt some epics(such as Velious helped Mage, Ranger, Druid, but made Cleric alittle harder with skyfire farming).

I admit im hungover, but what the fuck does this even say

It means I plan on looking over these epics and finding a way for a smaller populated server to complete epics without the dreadfully long farming or camping of mobs.

If you were playing a classic era server and had to farm skyfire mountains for your clerics epic, wouldnt it be more of a hassle then help? Just trying to be fair about it is all.

[sunbeam]

It means I plan on looking over these epics and finding a way for a smaller populated server to complete epics without the dreadfully long farming or camping of mobs.

If you were playing a classic era server and had to farm skyfire mountains for your clerics epic, wouldnt it be more of a hassle then help? Just trying to be fair about it is all.

At least that one is doable.

The ones that require trips to the Plane of Sky are going to be a lot harder to pull off.

[rlie_0]

That problem can be addressed at lease (tho no classic completely) is allowing keys to be put on a keyring so once you have you dont need to always remember to bring them.

As for the Death touch mobs in the way, could just make it a 1 death touch per engagement. With fewer people, as long as you can stay alive you should be able to complete the EPIC task of finding your epic items. I do allow limited boxing on my server, so you and a friend could, could 1 group it pending on your level, AA, and gear (since I do have Luclin open AAs only help on a small server). If there are better suggestions, let me know and ill mow it over on how these can be addressed a little later down the line.

[Kuppaking]

Ive always had a rather large interest in trying to accomplish something similar to this. I have the hardware and environments to accomplish it but I always fall short when it comes down to all the work for 1 person to change everything back to a classic format. and looking as hard as i could no one seems to release there back-end for the DB to make the classic server at least less of a headache to achieve.

I'm sure at this point 100% classic is near impossible and obviously no one will get the numbers or Project 99. I wouldn't try to compete against them as i don't see a point to. I more would want to create this on the merits of having done it and them NOT being the only game in town.

If anyone has made any headway in this or is interested in attempting something of the sort let me know. I have a rather large amount of servers at my disposal and would love to tinker.

P.S : I know my grammar is horrid I apologize i don't use English much since i moved from the states. Despite the excuse i also such at English sorry :(

[zeldik]

http://www.eqclassic.org/index.php project haulted no more progress in last 5 months or so

[Kuppaking]

I had noticed this as well, Very unfortunate. Hopefully something picks back up as they had already put so much work into it.

[zeldik]

I had an idea to create a guild on EQ LIVE TEST server for progression up to Luclin or PoP it is Free to Play and Gold Membership status on there the guild <The Faceless Order> does this occasionally in off season raiding months but I was hoping to stay in content a lot longer and perhaps find a crew to help start a new guild up.

/testbuff makes your toon level 25 with classic test starter gear would help for anyone who dont like the first half of the grind to 50.

If anyone is interested just PM me.