EQEmu ecommons more classic than p99

[MarcusD]

In p99's quest to please the donators (or themselves not sure) they have utterly wasted east commons. As a 13 year old in 99 I played eq only that summer and fall so my memories of ecommons are as acurate as possible.

Eqemu e commons is so close to how it was in 99 why did p99 mess with it? The only fixes it needs are getting rid of the young pumas and giant fire beetles and lions. Why did they add in an air elemental? This was never in 99 eq. Why did they introduce a roaming lesser mummy? This was never in 99 eq. Why did they add more lions and lionesses? This was only in the qeynos side never in the commons. Why did they introduce giant scarabs? This was only ever in ro.

I have no idea what they were thinking must have been some 2001/2002 or just plain mistaken comments they saw on way back machiene, they are nowhere near classic e commons. EQEmu e commons feels much more classic.

[Akkadius]

In p99's quest to please the donators (or themselves not sure) they have utterly wasted east commons. As a 13 year old in 99 I played eq only that summer and fall so my memories of ecommons are as acurate as possible.

Eqemu e commons is so close to how it was in 99 why did p99 mess with it? The only fixes it needs are getting rid of the young pumas and giant fire beetles and lions. Why did they add in an air elemental? This was never in 99 eq. Why did they introduce a roaming lesser mummy? This was never in 99 eq. Why did they add more lions and lionesses? This was only in the qeynos side never in the commons. Why did they introduce giant scarabs? This was only ever in ro.

I have no idea what they were thinking must have been some 2001/2002 or just plain mistaken comments they saw on way back machiene, they are nowhere near classic e commons. EQEmu e commons feels much more classic.

What is the point you are trying to get across here?

P99 started with a DB snapshot dated many years and years ago and does not reflect what PEQ has currently in ecommons as many things have changed since that point.

P99 related questions really don't belong here as no one affiliated really walks these forums often as this is more a general EQEmu community forum area.

[AdrianD]

Regardless of why you put this here, it isn't very constructive.

It's appreciated you made these observations but, many will perceive this as a rant or continuation of the known contempt you have for P99.

I suggest putting the energy into more constructive tasks.

EDIT: and what akkadius said

[provocating]

In p99's quest to please the donators (or themselves not sure) they have utterly wasted east commons. As a 13 year old in 99 I played eq only that summer and fall so my memories of ecommons are as acurate as possible.

Eqemu e commons is so close to how it was in 99 why did p99 mess with it? The only fixes it needs are getting rid of the young pumas and giant fire beetles and lions. Why did they add in an air elemental? This was never in 99 eq. Why did they introduce a roaming lesser mummy? This was never in 99 eq. Why did they add more lions and lionesses? This was only in the qeynos side never in the commons. Why did they introduce giant scarabs? This was only ever in ro.

I have no idea what they were thinking must have been some 2001/2002 or just plain mistaken comments they saw on way back machiene, they are nowhere near classic e commons. EQEmu e commons feels much more classic.

I see an air elemental being in East Commonlands.

http://web.archive.org/web/20011218021645/http://www.everlore.com/bestiary/beastdetails.asp?mode=show&BID=68352

Sand Scarab

http://web.archive.org/web/20010822024729/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=2442

You said Classic, you realize that p1999 is currently in Velious? They are very accurate. You have to think you have an average of 1200 players picking that server apart every day. If anyone is accurate they are, they do a damned good job at being accurate. Quit the hate.

[MarcusD]

Is this not server discussion? I am comparing servers based on my memory of classic 99 eq. What I said are my exact memories which I feel are very accurate.

[provocating]

Is this not server discussion? I am comparing servers based on my memory of classic 99 eq. What I said are my exact memories which I feel are very accurate.

Dude your post is calling out p99 on them changing zones, of course they change zones, they are in Velious.

Right here...

why did p99 mess with it?

[MarcusD]

so you are saying that soe changed things from classic in velious then returned them to classic later on? I'm saying current eqemu is more classic ecommons than p99

[provocating]

All that means is that they did an initial packet sniff that long ago and never did a newer one, pretty simple. Besides they are pushing using both eastcommonlands and ecommons, depending on client.

[chrsschb]

Is this not server discussion? I am comparing servers based on my memory of classic 99 eq. What I said are my exact memories which I feel are very accurate.

I'll sum it up very nicely for you: You're wrong.

You seem to be super hung up on p99 for some reason and none of us understand it. It's unwarranted. Several of us had our server populations destroyed by p99 yet here we still are.

[MarcusD]

I'll sum it up very nicely for you: You're wrong.

You seem to be super hung up on p99 for some reason and none of us understand it. It's unwarranted. Several of us had our server populations destroyed by p99 yet here we still are.

That's fine you can think that but all my memories of EQ were from 99 and mist of my time was spent in east commons. It is what it is. And if you all had your server pop's destroyed by p99 then what I am doing is very warranted.

[provocating]

And if you all had your server pop's destroyed by p99 then what I am doing is very warranted.

Why be bitter about some developers that do a damn good job. It just makes me want to hone my craft more.

[Cilraaz]

then what I am doing is very warranted.

Not to be a jackass, but what are you doing other than whining about P99 in multiple threads?

[Burningsoul]

He also whines about p99 Cilraaz, can't forget that. I'm sure he'd want us to remind everyone how much he hates P99 before he comes back in every thread he's posted in to rag on p99 some more while forcing his opinions on you that P99 STOLE TEH POPULASHUNZ FROM MY ZERVERS and donating scum get preferrential treatment on a server he doesn't run and WAAAAAAHHHH

[ghanja]

That's fine you can think that but all my memories of EQ were from 99 and mist of my time was spent in east commons. It is what it is. And if you all had your server pop's destroyed by p99 then what I am doing is very warranted.

Wait, what?

So between this thread and the other super long rant session in a different thread, it seems you are complaining to no end obviously raging against P99.

For a brief moment, I was "feelin ya" as they say, but then not. And now come to find out, you don't seem to know EQEMU at all, like, beyond perhaps running Akka's repack.

http://www.eqemulator.org/forums/showthread.php?t=40078

Maybe trying to stick with that one 9 page thread, my brain cells caught a case of the stoo'peds?

My reply is non-constructive, nor did I intend on it being so. Rather, it's perhaps just to demonstrate, that perhaps you and others that feel the same as you, should take a step back, breathe, and reevaluate things.

If ALL the work was shared, only two things would result:

1. You'd have 40 servers running the same copy (regardless of how authentic) and to my knowledge, there aren't even 40 official Live servers anymore, so population would scatter (best case scenario)

2. People would end up hacking away at the released quests/DB to where, it becomes moot.

Am I missing something? I have to be.

[demonstar55]

Guys, don't you see that MarcusD is our Lord and Savior come to free us from the tyranny that is p99 and show us the light that is poop socking open world raids?

[provocating]

Can I do my buddy Jesus meme? Please?

[Cilraaz]

Everybody loves Buddy Jesus.

[MarcusD]

If ALL the work was shared, only two things would result:

1. You'd have 40 servers running the same copy (regardless of how authentic) and to my knowledge, there aren't even 40 official Live servers anymore, so population would scatter (best case scenario)

2. People would end up hacking away at the released quests/DB to where, it becomes moot.

Am I missing something? I have to be.


Ya you are assuming everyone are mindless drone retards. If you want to know what would really happen look back to an open source movement like Linux. Linux is the most targeted OS for malicious hackers and every distro is exactly the same. Wait a second... actually the opposite is true.

[Drajor]

In p99's quest to please the donators (or themselves not sure) they have utterly wasted east commons.

When you prefix your post with like this I find it hard to take you seriously and I suspect others will feel the same. My unsolicited advice is to tone it down and get on with whatever it is you are doing.

[MarcusD]

When you prefix your post with like this I find it hard to take you seriously and I suspect others will feel the same. My unsolicited advice is to tone it down and get on with whatever it is you are doing.

I think if anyone wants to consider donating time to p99 either playing or deving they should consider that it is closed source and their hard work could be gone in a day.

And if anyone wants to consider donating money that their money could be used for champagne and strippers.

Just saying their closed door policy doesn't exactly inspire confidence. So that's why I think statements of mine like you referenced should be taken seriously.

[ghanja]

Ya you are assuming everyone are mindless drone retards. If you want to know what would really happen look back to an open source movement like Linux. Linux is the most targeted OS for malicious hackers and every distro is exactly the same. Wait a second... actually the opposite is true.

Yes, because EQEMU is an operating system, a kernel, the basis of everything. As I believe at this point, you're trolling, I'll just take that step back now and go on with my lurking of your posts. And, in the off chance that you're aren't trolling, all this time spent giving responses, could sure be better spent getting you closer to your goal.

Toodles.

[provocating]

I like kittens.

[phorest]

I like tater-tots.. and fire trucks!!

[rhyotte]

Bacon!

/10char

[Cilraaz]

I think if anyone wants to consider donating time to p99 either playing or deving they should consider that it is closed source and their hard work could be gone in a day.

So I'm guessing my initial theory was correct. You got banned from P99 and came here to whine about it. Now that nobody is paying attention, you've gone into troll mode.

If, somehow, you're serious, the "hard work could be gone in a day" argument is true for every MMO on the market as far as the player is concerned. At any moment, EQLive, WoW, SWTOR, GW2, etc, etc could close up shop, meaning their players "hard work" would be lost. That's a risk you take in any online gaming environment, not just one specific EQEmu server.

There's also a logical failure thinking that a server that's fought hard through multiple DDoS attacks, spent a bunch of money on hardware, and spent years of development time would randomly up and close for no good reason.

So that brings me back to my initial thought: You got banned from P99 and the past few days have been a pants-on-head feet stomping event. Well, if nothing else, you made me think about P99 and I spent a few hours on my lowbie Rogue last night. So thanks!

[silentshockwave]

Here is the way I look at it. I will start with the fact that I myself don't like p99 for my own reasons but I don't go about my day thinking about how much I dislike p99. I go about my day working constructive things or playing on an emu server I enjoy instead of ranting about every reason I dislike p99. In all reality all you are doing is wasting your time where you could be doing something either enjoyable or constructive.

[Nerdgasm]

I like trains.

[Burningsoul]

I like servers that employ bots and are not Freemium(TM) or vaporware. Or raid addicts. Just cuz I have a folder full of Mort's deleted drunken rampages against Secrets, Trevius and crew.

P.S.S.S.S.

Miss you Scorp/Lastworld

Seriously Servers. Step up your game. Leetsauce comes real damn close. Rest, get your ass back on Emu. We miss you.