Do something --pokes with stick-- [Archive]

Cusser

10-07-2017, 12:50 AM

Well, the whole game is setup to progress in some form or another. We only have so many options, unless we trash the basic EQ altogether.
We could always go play World of Tanks, run around killing other tanks, getting your tank better armor and progressing up to a top level
tank. Then get bored and come back and do it with an ogre, instead of Arty :)

Member Berries

10-07-2017, 10:26 AM

i want something custom and entertaining like shards of dalaya or thf that i haven't played to death and hasn't been abandoned... preferably without 20 boxing...

J3wish

10-09-2017, 04:36 PM

Oh I'm chock full of great ideas for custom servers. To bad I can't translate it from mind to keyboard to code.

Splose

10-10-2017, 06:28 AM

Someone do something cool and grindy.

Progression is played out.

Nagafen's Lair clones are played out.

LEGGO 100% CUSTOM PROGRESSION BROS.

I still work on my project from time to time.. hard to find motivation lately though been busy.. maybe someday.

Maze_EQ

10-10-2017, 02:58 PM

Splose,

go do cool shit again.

I want EQEMU2009 back :(

Excuses

10-12-2017, 11:35 AM

Oh I'm chock full of great ideas for custom servers. To bad I can't translate it from mind to keyboard to code.

Get someone code wise to help. I always lack ideas to a point where i over think it. i just prefer building it than thinking about it.

Maze_EQ

10-12-2017, 01:54 PM

I'm down to do the codewise shit.

I can't build worlds for shit, and suck at ideas without a massive amount of drugs.

J3wish

10-12-2017, 01:57 PM

Give me two weeks Maze and I'll see if I can come up with something.

mjbcb0717

10-12-2017, 02:55 PM

I'll be the cheerleader

Excuses

10-12-2017, 04:28 PM

id be down if it was going to b a long term project with a team.

Cusser

10-12-2017, 07:01 PM

When you scroll up and down that server list on the forum here, it's hard to close your eyes without having "PoP" burned in your mind
from seeing it so many times. It's like the standard model of the EQ vehicle comes off the assembly line with all the basics you see
on that list. PoPower, auto this and that, cruise, tilt, etc., with a trunk full of raid bosses and a gas tank full of experience.
Just exactly how many times do people want to kill Naggy, Vox and Quarm ?
When it comes to "new ideas" for a server, it's impossible to get an inclination of what could attract a (continuous) population.
It's really not a matter of struggling to come up with a unique idea, it's a "meeting of the minds" between players and new servers.
Out in RL, you can do market research before you get something going, but with the overall player base here, you have a better chance
of getting the "SMS recovery" to work, than hearing from the general player base. The only perceptive guess I can come up with, so far,
is many of them just may be looking for something different to do.
So all you can do is take that idea, run with it and spend several months developing it to see if it turned out as a bad idea :P

Splose

10-13-2017, 11:29 AM

Splose,

go do cool shit again.

I want EQEMU2009 back :(

You and me both.. Honestly the reason I haven't done anything in years is I see the current populations of custom servers and it doesn't look like there's much of a market for it. Like I said though I've been working on my shit off and on never really stopped but lacked motivation.

I have been completely reworking classes from the ground up.. Haven't decided if I want to do all the classes or just lock players to maybe 8 or so. The latter will probably be much easier to manage but I feel like that will turn people off.. I'll make a thread about it in server discussion and I'll see how it goes.

Maze_EQ

10-13-2017, 11:57 AM

Hmu on skype man, It'd be nice to work with you again.

Member Berries

10-13-2017, 01:12 PM

i think there are more people than the population numbers show. i check back once a week to see if there is any gossip of a well-made, custom server, that still has the soul and visual nostalgia.

mjbcb0717

10-13-2017, 01:18 PM

I want a server with black jack and hookers

sprinkle3

10-13-2017, 02:08 PM

Luclin server

old bazaar

no box limit

Maze_EQ

10-13-2017, 02:18 PM

Luclin server

old bazaar

no box limit

Why? So people can 18 box the entire server in 3 days and lock down all raid targets?

Howbownah

sprinkle3

10-13-2017, 02:30 PM

you are not killing any real bosses with 18 in luclin, you can also increase spawn timers for bosses so people can farm more if you wanted

I am just tired of pop and don't want to grind a million AA to be viable in omens or GOD

Gregalimule

10-13-2017, 06:26 PM

Im just player side and id kill for a new custom server without bots and a 2-3box limit. Sanctuary was amazing and all but they made it such a time sink then killed player trust with a wipe.

Every new server that comes out recently has been a NL clone with only stuff like the hub changed. Dont get me wrong, i liked pop prog but i cant do that shit agian for the 20th time. Cant agree with maze more on this, somthing new needs to happen so theres somthing worth playing.

Cusser

10-13-2017, 07:36 PM

I see the current populations of custom servers and it doesn't look like there's much of a market for it.

something new needs to happen

I do agree with Splose to a point, but I think the reason the PoP servers going viral is simply people creating their own visions
for that era that they (and the players on them) wanted with custom quality of life added to them. But I am convinced this is all
just a "passive phase", just as it was back when people wanted original classic. Lately I've even seen rants from P99 players
wanting Luclin out of them. But that would defeat the whole purpose of Project "1999". Today they hound for Luclin, then what about
tomorrow, they will want a "1999" era server to advance into PoP or GoD ?
Bored players can be very unforgiving, in badgering a server to start expanding away from it's own goals, just for their own selfish
desires. But even though there is various servers from different eras all the way up to OoW, some players who have toons played
through to Luclin or PoP, don't want to start a new toon on another server, just to get to another expansion release, so they may
get frustrated with servers locked in one particular expansion.
Eventually, those "PoP" players will get bored of that same old shit and will be looking for something new (or new content). I'm
no forecast expert, but I have a feeling, that by late (spring or sooner), a lot of players will welcome custom servers.

Yard Dogg

10-14-2017, 11:17 AM

When you look at that list, more specificly, the Legends, Preferred and "upper" white list,
there is 9 PoP'ish era servers. I had a PoP-LoY server up for a week, without advertising it,
and it never seen one active player on it, so I took it down and decided to go to work on
something else. I added up the "average players" on those 9 PoP servers and it's only 286 total
out of the whole 2000-3000 player base that list sees. Those 9 include classic, legit or slightly
customized for solo content. Personally, I think the only way those types of dedicated era servers
would ever get popular is if we seen a big surge of brand new players in the community. What we
have now is a mill run that is getting bored :P

Maze_EQ

10-16-2017, 09:38 AM

I am about to grab a case of red bull, a team of autists, and some spandex pants to create the "next big thing".

mjbcb0717

10-16-2017, 10:54 AM

Red bulls for children, get some nose candy you'll be good for days.

Maze_EQ

10-16-2017, 01:17 PM

Have you even Meth'd?

mjbcb0717

10-16-2017, 01:46 PM

Mom said I'm not aloud.

Maze_EQ

10-16-2017, 02:08 PM

Mom said I'm not aloud.

Pls lern 2 spell and change yer sig, issa dying.

mjbcb0717

10-17-2017, 11:01 AM

Nevur?,.;:'"/!

Splose

10-17-2017, 02:53 PM

I'll get something done that's solo-oriented.

Excuses

10-18-2017, 10:41 AM

If my country wasn't such morons i would work more on my server and host it at home. But we have so many restrictions it's completely bs.

Maze_EQ

10-18-2017, 11:29 AM

If my country wasn't such morons i would work more on my server and host it at home. But we have so many restrictions it's completely bs.

r u north korea

Excuses

10-18-2017, 12:06 PM

r u north korea

God no. Australia.

Maze_EQ

10-18-2017, 03:08 PM

Can host for you out of USA, but only if it's a long term goal with baller ass ideas.

Excuses

10-18-2017, 03:16 PM

Can host for you out of USA, but only if it's a long term goal with baller ass ideas.

Aussies aren't known as boring folk, we are weird and groovey.

Sounds interesting, i may talk to you more about that at some point. I am muscling down on the progression section now, long term is my goal if it comes to be.

rhyotte

10-18-2017, 06:43 PM

Excuses

10-19-2017, 01:54 AM

No Boxing. When you allowing boxing it turns into a "You Must Box or You Suck" fest.

Re-balancing classes would certainly have some tedium to it, but it is not impossible.

I have a few ideas, glad to share, IRC perhaps?

That's only your preference though, regarding boxing. I can and will box max toons because i thoroughly enjoy it. I find the servers that are solo/group -able have max 3 per IP and may allow 1 bot per account.

I think max of 6, min 3, is where it's at, but that is my personal feelings on that as well ^_^

Splose

10-19-2017, 04:23 PM

That's only your preference though, regarding boxing. I can and will box max toons because i thoroughly enjoy it.

I tend to agree with this sentiment.. though I've always enjoyed boxing myself.

I've always made a serious effort with all my servers to try an cater to both crowds but this time I have some great ideas to encourage real grouping while at the same time not alienating people who want to box.

My intent this go-around is to make a server where you can log on after work kill some shit and actually progress your character, whether that be through solo play, boxing, or actually grouping with people. The way i'm structuring content I've been careful to make it so it's not 100% necessary to box. I think i've achieved this a lot better than ever before. This is what I've looked for in a game for awhile and haven't really found it.

I'm in the process of revamping classes at the moment it's absolutely mind-numbing which is probably why I haven't had much motivation lately.. I do have about 3 years of sporadic work spread across 2 or 3 databases that I'll have to look at and either combine or scrap as well. This time I'm also going with a real story.

I'll probably take some time out to look at Maze's armor sets script since that's something I've always wanted in the game as well.. Either way, this thread shows that obviously there is a void needing to be filled in the server list and I'd love to do this again. Be on the lookout for EQAwakened in the near future. Really trying to go 100% custom, for those who played Township they should know what I mean.

Excuses

10-19-2017, 05:08 PM

Be on the lookout for EQAwakened in the near future. Really trying to go 100% custom, for those who played Township they should know what I mean.

Sounds like my kind of fun, will definitely keep a keen eye out.

The void is really hard to gander, i would like to create a server to cater for all, but something like that would take months which would be fine, if i could run the local server at home with EoC2 w.out a drama (firewalls and ports are not my fortay + i don't think i can actually do it in australia/modems).

Someone should really create a large poll and find out the players wants etc, then maybe a group get together and create the new *big deal*. Developing on your own can get so boring, haha..

The_Beast

10-19-2017, 05:57 PM

Someone should really create a large poll

You could do that and start a new thread with the poll link :P
https://www.easypolls.net/

ghanja

10-19-2017, 08:03 PM

I'll probably take some time out to look at Maze's armor sets script...

So penis shields and cock rings?

Yard Dogg

10-20-2017, 07:27 AM

.........
https://image.ibb.co/je4Yi6/EQ_4_Kids.jpg

Maze_EQ

10-20-2017, 10:44 AM

I'll probably take some time out to look at Maze's armor sets script since that's something I've always wanted in the game as well..

I wrote that?

Like send me that jawn on skype lol.

I can't remember what I wrote vs what Ghanja wrote.

Splose

10-20-2017, 12:36 PM

Pretty sure.. I'm out of town for the weekend I got you on Monday I just gotta find it.

Excuses

10-22-2017, 01:28 PM

You could do that and start a new thread with the poll link :P
https://www.easypolls.net/

I could. :)

Jahosphat

10-23-2017, 09:05 PM

New world.
Everything is KOS. SWARM commences 30min from server uptime or random interval of server admin choosing. You level when you kill and/or survive, top 5 in zone left = a whole level (based on mob/player kills).. Max level 50.. if you make it to 50 you get a shard... once someone hits 51, server/zone reset Randomizes you into new zone, harder sht. Shards buy cool sht that will carry when server/zone (custom clickies anyone). NPC's will have randomized spell tables, agro ranges, and hp/mana.

Once your character has 50 shards banked.. ported to harder area... boss mobs perhaps?...content fun, new, different.

The_Beast

10-23-2017, 09:20 PM

Excuses

10-24-2017, 10:31 AM

Now there is someone "thinking outside of the box" for once. :)

How outside do we want haha, im sure therr are some straight out crazy ideas. I like the swarm theory, JC has always been pretty creative.

Nerdgasm

10-24-2017, 10:47 AM

Jesus, if someone made that server, I'd sell my left testicle.

Excuses

10-24-2017, 11:05 AM

Jesus, if someone made that server, I'd sell my left testicle.

Those are going fir about 50grand in australia atm

Jahosphat

10-24-2017, 11:20 AM

New world 2
I've always like a "sick" world where there is a source that needs to be eliminated.
I also like the idea of this sickness to impact all players.. aka All your spells are weakened until the server as a whole is cleansed of the threat.. /plaguestatus "60% contained" As players level, zones are eradicated then at various intervals you can spawn bosses based on player level to regain %'s associated with your personal spell lines.
Plenty of ideas.. ;)

Shirodan

10-24-2017, 12:53 PM

Jahosphat

10-24-2017, 12:59 PM

I just want a server where every mob drops 100% random loot. A decaying skeleton could drop a bat wing, or the top tier raid item. That with some stat scaling, and maybe some randomly generated loot.

Nothing too crazy, but that's what I enjoy.
Karana Reborn runs a 3% script that randomizes loot as you're describing.
In fact alot of servers also use the Diablo script from what i recall..

Maze_EQ

10-24-2017, 02:10 PM

Karana Reborn runs a 3% script that randomizes loot as you're describing.
In fact alot of servers also use the Diablo script from what i recall..

I did it better with PERL.

Mine was actually RANDOM drops, each kill. LOL

Nothing ever dropped the same shit twice.

ghanja

10-24-2017, 08:18 PM

I did it better with PERL.

Mine was actually RANDOM drops, each kill. LOL

Nothing ever dropped the same shit twice.

Never did put up that server I spoke about.. "You Win", I guess the NPC was as close as I would get to doing that.

mjbcb0717

10-24-2017, 09:55 PM

custom perma death servers are fun.

Maze_EQ

10-25-2017, 10:32 AM

Never did put up that server I spoke about.. "You Win", I guess the NPC was as close as I would get to doing that.

God damn troll server would be hilarious.

sprinkle3

10-25-2017, 11:42 AM

sounds like population would peak at 5

meanwhile agnar and phinny peaking at 10k +

people like progression servers, most people are playing on these emus because they get 1 expansion per year

most of us gamers are older, I would like another EQTitan or PEQTGC that starts at classic/kunark/vel or luclin and stays there for at least a year before pop

pop is so played out

ghanja

10-25-2017, 03:19 PM

Those are going fir about 50grand in australia atm

USD or Australian? And does it come with a free ball sack rejuvenation? I'm a little older anymore, and it sags just a tad.

Excuses

10-25-2017, 05:54 PM

USD or Australian? And does it come with a free ball sack rejuvenation? I'm a little older anymore, and it sags just a tad.

AUD, but if you wait for the correct month it could turn out to be a little more than .76 of the usd.

Sorry, you get a slab of beer as rejuvenation.

Nerdgasm

10-27-2017, 02:26 PM

Those are going fir about 50grand in australia atm

Sign me up!

ChaosSlayerZ

01-16-2018, 08:33 AM

I am obviously too late for this discussion, but, I am sort of back to Emu and finally plan to put my server plans to work.

The idea is a 100% ultra-custom server, that is sort of EQ in Vision (or rather my vision of EQ), but completely remade in all of the content, from new world map to new classes. Its a grand scale project, so don't expect anything remotely complete for at least a year from now. However I plan to open the server for public testing as early as the Alpha stage so people can poke it with burning needles and I will tell them where it hurts ;)
Difficulty wise, it will be NO-Box NO-Bot server, that will offer solo, group and raid (2x group) content. Most importantly it will be a server where new content done from level 1, giving you an opportunity to be "that EQ noob" for a bit again when you have no idea where to go and what to expect. ;) While some of the modern quality of life improvements will be present (no pointless time sinks), there will be 0 hand-holding. This will be plenty of BIG quests, but they will be ambiguous as hell ;) This will be a very slow progression server, but there will always be something to do, so you always feel that your character is advancing, even though you don't fly trough levels.

Stay tuned ;)

PS. To have a quick idea what type of content to expect you can see sample of my previous work on THF server in the Alternative Progression line.

Maze_EQ

01-16-2018, 01:48 PM

chop chop, get to it.

I'd do something fun but I'm lazy af.

The_Beast

01-16-2018, 02:30 PM

I'd do something fun but I'm lazy af.

I assume that's why saylinks were first implemented in EQ :P

ChaosSlayerZ

01-16-2018, 05:48 PM

chop chop, get to it.

I'd do something fun but I'm lazy af.

/em grabs his trusty http://zam.zamimg.com/images/1/8/18a4b69932d91f7c13e8cd4d71158744.png

and starts chopping ;)

Maze_EQ

01-17-2018, 11:07 AM

I assume that's why saylinks were first implemented in EQ :P

Say links are such an abomination.

I like to not have people know wtf to say to an npc, and also provide 50 different conversations based on keywords.

Not click dis so I don't read lore.

but ya, lazy af.

ChaosSlayerZ

01-17-2018, 12:13 PM

Say links are such an abomination.

I like to not have people know wtf to say to an npc, and also provide 50 different conversations based on keywords.

Not click dis so I don't read lore.

but ya, lazy af.

I partially agree with you, but there is two sides to this coin

How it was in vanilla EQ:

Player A: "Hail NPC Bla!"
NPC Bla: "Hail Player A! Nice weather today, but I fear it will rain soon and left my [umbrella] at home"
Player A: "What umbrella?"
no response
Player A: "Where is your umbrella?"
no response
Player A: "Where is your house?"
no response
Player A: "Why is it going to rain?"
no response
Player A: "Can I help you in some way?"
no response
Player A to OCC: "Ok npc Bla doesn't give me quest what do I have to say?"
OOC: "You have to say 'I will go to your home to your wife and get your umbrella from her'."
Player A: "Fuck..."

How players play WoW today:
Play A walks to NPC - click-click-click- accept quest
Player A runs to X mark on the map. Kill everything in sight, but don't get any quest updates.
Player A to OOC "Quest X is broken. I killed all goblins here and no quest update"
OCC : "Did you collected the flower?"
Player A "What flower????"
OCC: "Did you read the Quest???"

In conclusion say links are needed so #1 doesn't happen. But quests themselves should still require reading comprehension so you HAVE to read them to understand what you actually need to do. ;)

The_Beast

01-17-2018, 06:20 PM

there is two sides to this coin

Thats a good way to define this game as it is now. One side of the coin has the "old school" die hards that are pretty much
"set in their ways" and don't like change. The other side of the coin is filled with the modern "been there done that, don't
want to do it again" gamers. But that's the best part about this project, it can accomodate both sides, for the most part.
It's really a matter of what the individual player finds "exciting" in a good game of EQ. Some would enjoy the challenge of
trying to figure out a new quest or discover the unknown. Some may think it boring to log on to any server, knowing
there is nothing they can offer that they haven't seen or done before. Myself, I would find it extremely difficult to come
up with something more exciting, unless one wipes the "Everquest" right out of EQ. But even Super Mario has evolved over
the years. For me it works out like the sequels in a movie series. The first movie rocked my world, but as usual, the sequels
(2, 3, 4 ....) started to suck bad and got too carried away. (Think Smokey and the Bandit), lol
Just the other day, I fired up an old game, the original Halo game. I don't remember a damn thing about progressing through
it, but that's a good thing. I get to figure it all out again :)

Uleat

01-17-2018, 08:21 PM

It all started with..

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/Konami_Code.svg/300px-Konami_Code.svg.png

Vonguru

01-21-2018, 01:35 AM

It all started with..

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/Konami_Code.svg/300px-Konami_Code.svg.png

Kind of missing the last couple ... "select start".... not sure what I think about this lack of knowledge.

Uleat

01-21-2018, 12:50 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konami_Code

That's not part of the actual code, though.

Vonguru

01-21-2018, 01:52 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konami_Code

That's not part of the actual code, though.

TIL! Thanks :)

"A common misconception is that the code ends with Start or Select Start. In many titles, the player must press Start after entering the code in order to start a game, or press Select to switch to two-player mode and then start the game, leading to the confusion."

Jahosphat

08-20-2019, 03:29 PM

New World: Faction Winning.
Each zone has a king/queen you need to fight/uest for to control that territory. But you'd have competing guilds/players doing the same thing in each area. You'd need to use leaderboard code and create new factions for each zone, etc.
Beyond winning the zone/area you build and dominate the entire world.. also makes others KOS to areas as they enter. NPC's will scale upon zonein.
Vendors/bosses become available to you as you unlock/faction up areas. You'll need some handicap randomizer to help lower level factions catch up.

think u get the point... ..sigh i wish my kids were older so i could fire up a new server.. haha