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ibleet
03-11-2002, 11:02 AM
Please bear in mind that many people on this board are NOT computer geeks. It would be very helpful to post directions for fixes as well. For instance: Exactly how do you update the firmware for a router? or... Exactly how do you source a new database structure? ... etc. That would be extremely helpful and eliminate a lot of unnecessary posts for more information.

TheClaus
03-11-2002, 04:30 PM
Okay I know i'll get some flack for this but it is late so here I go. There are somethings that people know how to do better than others. Why do you ask cause they took it upon themselves to figure this stuff out. As for your firmware question I would bet that if you went to your routers website that it would have all the information you need. IF not there then try putting in the model of your router and firmware in http://www.google.com that is the best search engine out there. As to how to source a db, well that is in the readme and I am sorry but most people don't chose to read it. They think they know it all and then when it comes to help and we say okay did you do this or source the db and they said well I did it this way it pisses the helpers off cause they know it is in the readme. To all who don't get setting up mysql and getting the world and zone files to mesh and actually work read the readme and if that doesn't help try to do a search on the forums for your error. If that still doesn't bring anything then log on to IRC and if someone is available to help(yeah guess what we do have lives outside of EQEMU) then they will help. I see the same questions asked everyday. Several times by impatient people. Here is a hint for you all. The software is ALPHA. It runs but may not run on your system. It may run one day and then not the next. This is the life of ALPHA software. Okay I am done.

mByte
03-11-2002, 04:54 PM
Please bear in mind that many people on this board are NOT computer geeks. It would be very helpful to post directions for fixes as well. For instance: Exactly how do you update the firmware for a router? or... Exactly how do you source a new database structure? ... etc. That would be extremely helpful and eliminate a lot of unnecessary posts for more information.

or you can wait till the developers have finished there project and worry about it then.

your lucky then even let us use it while they code.

ibleet
03-12-2002, 05:16 AM
LoL...very amusing flames to an innocent post. The post was general. I just used those 2 examples to represent the hundreds of similar posts I get tired of reading. Maybe I was wrong, but I figured if we answered questions more completely the first time, It might eliminate the 20 or more posts that follow asking for more information. My bad completely so stop the flames already. Hmmmm...this is the first post I have done that has gotten 3 responses so quickly. I wonder why I don't get responses that quickly for something that is constructive????? Oh well, we move forward.

ibleet
03-12-2002, 05:48 AM
The first response to my post was fine. The second was borderline, but the post by Trumpcard was definitely a FLAME. Not nice to call someone a dummie....etc, who is just trying to help others.

1) Ye shall not flame. (Do not beat on others for their errors or lack of intellegence on the subject, try to deal with it maturely)

Please respond maturely in the future, or do NOT reply to my posts at ALL Trumpcard. Thank you.

Trumpcard
03-12-2002, 05:56 AM
iBleet,

I didnt call anyone a dummy..

Have you not ever heard of the 'XXX for dummies' line of books?
I doubt the writer of those books intended to call everyone who was ignorant of a topic a dummy.

A flame is a personal attack against someone, I was merely defining what I believe we should or should not be doing with regards to the emu.

A never made a personal reference directly against you, or anyone else for that matter. I did not put names, I did not call anyone stupid, or a loser, or any of those things.

> '1) Ye shall not flame. (Do not beat on others for their errors or >lack of intellegence on the subject, try to deal with it maturely)
>Please respond maturely in the future, or do NOT reply to my >posts at ALL Trumpcard. Thank you.'

I never beat anyone for their lack of knowledge. Should I have instead just replied with RTFM ? I dont think that would have been very considerate.. I replied with my point of view..

I think possibly you misread my use of the pronoun 'you' with meaning you personally. If that is the case, that is not how it was intended. 'You' was a reference to the general catagory of people who typically show up asking the same questions over and over again.

Also, I would surmise that some people who know their way around a computer do not like being called 'computer geeks'. We could always make the assumption that your post was a flame in the first place.

Zeitgeist
03-12-2002, 09:47 AM
In my experience as a helper here (absent lately due to ehavy workload at my real job) I answer the same questions on the board and in IM and email over and over every day. 95% of people don't look before they ask and I sometimes get tired of cutting and pasting or re typing the same stuff over and over again. Sometimes its the quality f the answers, sometimes its just the fact that if you can't figure it out maybe you should be waiting excitedly for a better documented 1.0 release that will be sometime down the tracks. Right now its very true that it will work and not work from day to day. So be kind to the folks who spend hours of their time helping, k?