EverQuest 2

[DeletedUser]

As I know Sony reads the EQEMu webpage I am posting this:

Sony Online Entertainment Inc. (SOE), a worldwide leader in massively multiplayer online gaming, announced today that it is adding incentives to EverQuest

[Elrach]

hehe, I must say, this is pretty smart of them. They are ensuring folks will keep playing BOTH games, and pay for twice the accounts. I don't blame em for doing this. However, I pity the fools who will fall for it. :?

[a_Guest03]

WTF? Why should the "loyal" customers get benefits over new guys? fsck them! New people should get benefits too, because those loyal people will crush them like wine-flavored jello anyway.

[runya]

bah, verant has been money sucking vampires ever since they started. i think theyve invested more money into their marketing department than the game itself. think of the stormhammer server, the server they were trying to sell for $50 a month. they promised constant gm events, some online player map tracking device, personal items and such (ive talked to a few suckers who fell for it, and they said theres nothing like that on there, just a bunch of gms sitting around doing nothing). I gave me minimal monthly cost to them for close to 2 years, plus the cost of the game itself. i refuse to pay another cent more for a nerd form of heroin. plus, eq2 is just some graphically enhanced version of the same crappy game. you'd think they would develop a new world, new lands or something.

[Slayer02]

Alls I have to say is WHAT THE FUCK? So now it is whoever spends the most money gets the good stuff? HEY SONY, WHY DONT YOU JUST GO SELL ACCOUNTS! WHILE YOU'RE AT IT, MAKE THEM LEVEL 100 and only they can get to that level. Be just the same as what you're doing. -Ybik of the Nameless server. (The Original you bastards.)

[hogosha]

What's next? If you pay $5 extra you get full set of twinks, 30 to each stat? This is bull crap. I aint payin crap, ill let someone else buy it for me, then ill copy it, and then i will wait for the free server to come out. They should just release the source code to Everquest once they release Everquest 2 if it's going to be that great.

[Shawn319]

Who didnt see it coming.... anyone remember the 40$/mo bs for more ingame quests and quicker replied for petitions?

[toiletpunks]

well if people were stupid anuf to pay 40 a month for some extra help and a server with less people that has never had any of the stuff touched then sure there going to fall for this. now it would be diffrent if they came up with something better and new like. if you want to play EQ and EQ2 they should make a discount for playing both. Like pay for eq2 and get like 8 off of eq so you pay like 5 for eq. that way there doing there loyal fans something good. who cares about adding extra stuff that only they can use. thats bs.

[Trumpcard]

They'll have to drop the price on eq 1 to keep it going, no one will sign up for eq1 if eq2 is available for the same price.

Unless eq2 is just going to be more expensive period. I bet they'll offer a discount for both games eventually, though I don't see why anyone would play both 1 & 2. 1 is enough of a timesink...

And guys, keep the commentary polite...

[Slayer02]

Yeah, sorry about that trump. But I mean, COME ON. Is it not enough that most people play EverDope 12 hours a day? (Seriously, I lost a friend to EverDope, he is just a mindless zombie now...)

[Trumpcard]

I'd hardly consider that Verant's fault though, your friend has a will of his own after all. I believe people are personally responsible for their own decisions, and lives...

I wasnt really refering to your post in general Slayer, I was just reminding everyone because of some posts I saw in another thread. No worries...

[Slayer02]

EverQuest = heroin, seriously, there should be a warning on it. I would still be addicted if it wasn't for you guys here. This place is like rehab for me.

[Edgar1898]

I mean strictly from a development point of view, you guys know how hard thats going to be to get accounts linked and how much of a headache its going to be for thier customer service department . Think of how many ppl prepay or use an alt credit card to pay for eq, or their parents pay for the account and they bought an eq2 account, etc. how are they going to link those accounts, and if they dont link your account because you paid with a different card or prepay, can you imagine the number of calls they are going to receive complaining? I think that some executive thought this up at a meeting without consulting the real ppl that make this game happen. I see this "feature" being dropped before eq2 is released, but I guess I'll have to wait and see :P

[a_Guest03]

Everquest is just a way of facilitating a need that some people have to feel control in their live, through power or acceptance or accomplishment, even if it doesn't apply to the real world. Addiction to it requires that one need it. But I still blame cokeheads and coke dealers for the coke problems. One has a problem, and the other facilitates it and transforms it into another problem for profit.

This place really is like rehab. I don't NEED to play EQ anymore, because my obsessive characteristics can be quenched faster with emu. If I MUST kill Cazic, I'll slaughter him in a moment's notice. If I NEED to solo a zone, I can do it here, and the need passes without 14 hours of feeling guilty.

[Trumpcard]

The fact is though that people with addictition tendancies are going to be hooked on SOMETHING, just in this case it's EQ. I've seen the same compulsions with D&D, porn, Model building, boating, motorcycles and sword collecting (my compulsions).

Where do we draw the line as a society. Anything that someone might possibly devote too much time to, we rule it as addictive and put safeguards on it? The internet period !

You can't regulate personal choices without restricting personal freedoms.

I should sue Briars because they make an Picchio ice cream that is SOOO good that I can't help but eating the entire half galleon at a time. It's there fault for making it so tasty, I shouldnt have to fight that temptation.

What is the solution, make everything bland? Create a 'Harrison Bergeron' society where all things and people are equal?

If you havent read that short story, look it up , really good social commentary..

[Edgar1898]

heh I was forced to read a story about a world like that in my hs English class. Everyone had to be equal, there was this lady who was a newscaster and sucked cuz she was just average at it and there was this guy who they added weights to his legs because he was too strong so they wanted him to be like everyone else, hmm dont remember anything else of the story :P cept the guy died in the end heh

[a_Guest03]

One shouldn't encourage others to indulge in these habits - I'm not saying that EQ should be illegal. I was making a point that my compulsory behavior is less damaging with EQemu.

[IAdragonflyy]

I don't post often enough here, but I would like to say an addiction is based off when you don't get something you want it becomes a need. It only becomes a need when you let it. My brother is a Pot smoker. He doesn't let it rule him tho, when he doesn't have any he doesn't change he doesn't care. On the other hand I have a friend who is an addicted pot smoker, when he doesn't have a bag for awhile he gets pissy and antsy and starts say I need weed man, he doesn't need it, it just rules him. He let it take over himself. EQ is the same way! I never need everquest, all I really use it for is a gloridfied chat channel with pretty pictures. I don't even play eqemu of a fix it "kill cazic" or anything like that. Me and my brother are writing our own world and hopefully it'll be a good one. ATM I have one NPC in it and one weapon lol. Well just my 2 cents worth :P

DragonFlyy

[vuke69]

What is the solution, make everything bland? Create a 'Harrison Bergeron' society where all things and people are equal?

If you havent read that short story, look it up , really good social commentary..

That is a very good story about how striving for a utopia, can only create a dystopia, and if you like it, try reading anything by Ayn Rand, she is an awesome writer as well.

[xelnagan]

Hm... Messed up that the exclusive features will only be available to cross-gamers =/ I'll be one, but it still doesn't make it cool.

- Xelnagan

[fnemo]

heh I was forced to read a story about a world like that in my hs English class. Everyone had to be equal, there was this lady who was a newscaster and sucked cuz she was just average at it and there was this guy who they added weights to his legs because he was too strong so they wanted him to be like everyone else, hmm dont remember anything else of the story :P cept the guy died in the end heh

That was the Baron of Munchausen !

[Trumpcard]

Lethal,

That story was 'Harrison Bergeron'


At the end he took off his weights and soared, and the girl took off her mask, and then the minister of equality blasted them with a shotgun...

Another good one is Flannery O'conner, 'A Good Man is Hard to Find'.

[Edgar1898]

Heh it was an ok story, but too much symbolism for my taste :)

[Elrach]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this wasn't about EQ being an addiction. It is what you make it to be.

It's about SoE putting in an incentive to keep people playing both EQ and EQ2.

And please, don't get all up in arms about Sony being in it just for the money. THEY ARE! It's called a business! It's your job as a consumer to decide whether their product is for you or not. You have the final say...

[Bardboy]

Back to the EQII thing...

Screw Verant/Sony and the stupid, overpriced, horses they rode in on!

I have been so inspired by the work done here, that It would be impossible for me to care any less about them.
Why should we care, when we can create new worlds right here?

Personally, I don't require dazzling graphics,(I used to play text based MUDs for hours on end)there is plenty of use left in the original game. Besides, anything they come up with now is going to be re-hashing the original stuff. The Coorporate 'Suits' at Sony will make sure any real creativity is snuffed out.

[ednecro]

I totally agree with image. What a bunch of crap. Now you get to pay for 2 everquest accounts to get their little carrot they hang in front of loyal customers. Ohhhh gee thanks sony, I feel soooo rewarded now that you are shafting me in both holes!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[ste]

First, i would say that i agree with the general opinon expressed in this forum topic...
I also consider that as a bad decision BUT i'm not going to blame verant/sony when speaking about eqemu.

It would be nice if you could be a little tollerant about that, for many reasons :

- it doesn't concern directly eqemu users. Anyone who payed for eq1 can use it, so i think it's off-topic to blame sony with something about eq2.

- verant/sony looks a little tolerant with eqemu itself... could the eqemu communauty be a little tolerant with eq II ? Compare the situation with blizzard/Vivendi and the "bnetd" battlenet server emulator, you will see how lucky we are (http://www.bnetd.org/)

- what would be EQemu without EQ ? this is exactly the same question : What would be eqemu without sony/verant ?

- as eqemu is eq1 emulation only, i think a psychological subconscient thing is pushing eqemu users to be a little more nasty with eq2.

[Eyece]

you people are looking at it from the consumer point of view...You need to look at it from the company point of view. Sony is doing what is good for they're company, it isn't even something y'all should get pissed off at. They are making business decisions to keep a business running, THIS GAME THEY MAKE COSTS THEM MONEY! I think they went about it the wrong way though, I mean, if I get special items and shit, they better be ubah as fuck. I want some shit like Soul Devourer. :P

[DeletedUser]

Probably going to be banned for this, but I really am sick and tired of people saying they hate EQ and aren't going to buy their products, and whatnot.

You guys make such a big deal over it, hell.. your making an emulator for it. Some of the biggest guilds whine about the game.

Get over it and just leave, everywhere i'm going theres someone whining.

And everyone that is agreeing to this, why the hell are you even here? Half of you weren't good enough to play the game so why whine about something you can't even do.

It's like whining about a broken leg and you've never broke a bone before.

Just because theres a big pile of people who hate the game doesn't mean they don't have loyal fans. I have much respect for them creating EQ, I don't see any of you making an mmorpg.

Stop whining, grab a tissue, and create your own game.


K, cya later if I get banned. :roll:

[Trumpcard]

I dont see anything wrong with that post personally... Arguing or disagreeing is acceptable, we all have our opinions.. Calling everyone a f'ing moron because they disagree with you isnt...

My personal opinion is I enjoyed EQ, but got horribly bored by the repetiveness of it..

They make decisions based on what they think is good for profit margins.. Money is what keeps system admins employed, coders coding, and GM's doing whatever they do....

Capitalism makes the world go round..

[eq-chris]

For those who don't understand why someone would pay $50 bucks for an exclusive server, think for a few seconds. Cable costs you $50 a month. You can go through that much in a couple hours of drinking. A month of drugs, any drug, will cost you that much. Sony provides entertainment and they charge for it. Whether you pay $10 or $50, are you getting your money's worth? If so, great. If not, then don't blame Sony because your a crappy consumer.

Personally I couldn't live without the Cartoon Network, so I gave up EQ years ago. Seriously, like anything can compre with the Powerpuff Girls.

[Elrach]

For those who don't understand why someone would pay $50 bucks for an exclusive server, think for a few seconds. Cable costs you $50 a month. You can go through that much in a couple hours of drinking.

What if I drink beer while I play EQ??? Aaaah! hehe

My personal opinion is I enjoyed EQ, but got horribly bored by the repetiveness of it..


Yep, yep, that's the truth. Enjoyed the game for a good while myself, yet got tired of the repetiveness and time investment required to get anywhere in the game.

They make decisions based on what they think is good for profit margins.. Money is what keeps system admins employed, coders coding, and GM's doing whatever they do....

/sarcasm on:
What? I always thought they were doing this all just to be nice to us!
/sarcasm off:

Hehe, I think people forget too often it's a product they SELL! They are in it for the money...and they apparantly have been doing a great job out of it. I don't think I can point this out often enough.

If you go to Walmart and see an item you like but find is too expensive for you, do you go to the cashier and whine about the price or do you just leave it there?

Simple enough, you don't like it, don't buy it!

[Trumpcard]

I agree completely..

But its a self-centric world... People as a whole believe everything should be done exactly for their benefit, and if its not , IT SUCKS!

[a_Guest03]

eqemu doesn't upgrade fast enough!! It sucks! Mnaaaah!


Those Japanese companies are excellent at what they do. Be glad they didn't screw it up, make us all have wet dreams about the game, get us hooked (yes, we get hooked voluntarily), and then go bankrupt after a year of play-time! THAT would suck, for us and for them.

[NnY]

Milking cows..

[Trumpcard]

As I know Sony reads the EQEMu webpage I am posting this:

Yes, I'm sure they gather together every morning to pull up this page to find out what we think about how they're doing...

LOL...

[generalzod]

Capitalizism..

[a_Guest03]

Is that the belief in capitalizing? CAPS lock religion? :lol:

[Nsane]

I read that Sony was going to make all games published by itself accessible by a lump fee of 21.99 no matter which games you play.

[inkubus]

no that's a limited 'all access pass' :)

Just EQ, EQ2 and EQ:OA afaik :)

[Baron Sprite]

wasn't planning on buying eq2 anyways, it may be a good game at start, then comes the billion hours required to do anything worthwhile bullshit.
Here's to the bastard that decided to add 50+ to the game: http://filedump.shacknet.nu/emoticons/icon_stupid.gif

[Slayer02]

As I know Sony reads the EQEMu webpage I am posting this:

Yes, I'm sure they gather together every morning to pull up this page to find out what we think about how they're doing...

LOL...
20 bucks says they already have spy cams over your house and watch your every move. :twisted:

[Baron Sprite]

I like to live in the nude.

[BLooDDRiPPeR]

how do you guys find free servers? iuno where 2 search, i found eqemu on allakhazam's when a guy said he would get potime pics courtesy of eqemu...

[a_Guest03]

LOL, potime pics? Someone has to give us POTime data for us to put it into the potime database set.

All eqemu servers are free. You download eqemu by going to the main www.eqemu.net and downloading them from the Files (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=41381) link. You can also click the link I posted here. It takes you to a website with a lot of files. You probably want just the patcher installed. It is available from the link in my signature. Tell you what, though: just read the readme in my sig, then press the BIG RED BUTTON for retards. It has a baby-step walkthrough of what to do to play on the free server. It's humiliating having to click the retard button, but at least you get a free server.

It tells you in the walkthrough to get eqw at the website that hosts it. Well, it's gone. Click the link in my sig if you want it.

[Folkar]

Well , that all access thing is suppoed to be for EQOA , EQ , EQ II , and Planetside , but not SWG ( The bastards ! ) . Oh well .

Oh , and cheers . New guy . Been playing EQ for three years ( Mmm ... money . ) and I'm glad I finally found that it's emulated , since emulated servers are usually a lot cooler and more enjoyable than the official ones , since they're enforced better .

[DaGrahamster]

As I usually dont check the News forum, today was my first time seeing this topic about EQII and Sony's deal, so some of what I say will be a bit bellated, but here's my 2 cents anyway:

Sony is a company. They make money. They make lots of it. Which is good cuz EQ costs more money to manage than u think it does. Personally, I do not like Sony's deal regarding EQ/EQII, but it is perfectly legal, ligitimate, and reasonable. The majority of ppl at Sony, no doubt, r in it for the money. You cannot tell me that if u were in their position u would not do the same thing in order to make money. Does this make them slime? No. They r simply executing a marketing ploy in order to make those lil green things.

However, it is just that: a ploy. A clever one, at that. While it is easy to see through, some ppl have nothing better to do than play both EQ and EQII all day long, all will no doubt subscribe to it. It's part of business and part of the way our economy works. Get over it.
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hehe, I must say, this is pretty smart of them. They are ensuring folks will keep playing BOTH games, and pay for twice the accounts. I don't blame em for doing this. However, I pity the fools who will fall for it.


I agree whole-heartedly.
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As someone noted earlier on this forum, EQEMU is a kind of rehab for those of us who were EQ addicts at one point in time, and I would just like to say thats exactly what EQEMU is for me as well.
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Capitalism makes the world go round..


Though I agree basically with what Trumpcard was saying in his post, I read this and was shocked for a second b4 i realized that what he probably MEANT to say was that capitalism makes the FREE world go round. The majority of the countries of the world r not capitalistic. People have this fictitious notion that the United States has everything all figured out. We don't. Though we r better on our way than most countries, we aren't there yet. On a scale of 1 to 10 , the free world so far is about a 4.....Humanity has a long way to go yet. But, whatever I'm just nit-picking.
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Some of that latter stuff strayed off the subject of this topic, yet I wanted to comment on them anyway just cuz I felt they were important. I dont Sony is "some big evil conspiracy company out to steal all our money", but, just like every company out there, they'll gladly get their hands on as much of our money as we allow them to. This is not wrong, and only a bit greedy. You would do the same in their shoes, and u know it. If u don't like this deal then here's an idea: DON'T BUY IT

[Trumpcard]

Actually, you're right. I should have specified free world..

The ILLUMANTI make the world go round... And those damn aliens and their plans to infect the world with alien viruses using bees....

[a_Guest03]

Great call, Mulder. Is that your sister??

*cue creepy music*

[DaGrahamster]

Wow....that's an....interesting theory, Trumpcard.....*runs away FAST*

[luvmyhonda]

I must say that capitalism kicks ass for enlightened societies though. Let's face it, we're all greedy bastards. ;-)

[allstaronfire]

stormhammer: a server that costs 50 bucks per month for things you were supposed to get on the normal servers -.- verant : a bunch of fatass bastards

[Sorpo]

The eq 1 crossover crap will probably be retarded anyways, and I figure they will forget the feature exists and not develop it at all after about a month.

[PeterTable]

stormhammer: a server that costs 50 bucks per month for things you were supposed to get on the normal servers -.- verant : a bunch of fatass bastards

Agreed!!

[Spleef420]

EQ and EQII are nothing more than a license to steal...kinda like a gaming license for a casino, the only thing is that people are willingly giving away their money for something that has absolutely no real value (Sony put a stop to the E-Bay thing awhile ago). EQemu is great, I never played EQ 'til it was emulated.

just my 2cp