Ultimate n00b'z guide to greatness!

1337_Ch4rm3r · #1 07-19-2002, 02:42 PM

Aye, I'm a complete n00b, just found out about that this sorta' stuff, IS possible. Anyway, I wuz thinkin' that perhaps there should be a whole Section devoted to us insanely idiot newbies ^.^! In the forum section, there should be a list of all software needed to be downloaded, alone with links prz~! And perhaps a small summary over wtf is going on =]! I'm not sayin' a complete retutorial is needed as they have been retold time and time again (I bet)....it would just be nice though

! Anyway, if you can, gimme some feedback, tell me wut ya think, and plz post any / or all info I asked for above plz~. Thx alot ya'll...I'm out, CYa~!

Hardy · #2 07-19-2002, 03:49 PM

I agree, they should make a forum just for links to software needed and maybe even a readme for that software, alot of newbies still might ask a question when its right in front of there nose, but it still might help alot. Yes, that forum might take a bit to set up, but think of the time it MIGHT save in the future. I say might cause some newbies don't even look, they just ask :p I dunno, maybe you can make the forum read "Naked babes!" That might help some, LOL

1337_Ch4rm3r · #3 07-20-2002, 05:38 AM

yes, great idea, it should be done =)!

Lurker_005 · #4 07-21-2002, 06:43 AM

While it can use some work, I thought that is exactly what the readme was for. As far as readme's for the 3rd party programs needed, if the person that wrote the program provided one then it is already there. Then there is the news forum for the project for keeping you up to date on the emu itself.

And as a supliment to all that there is my post that I link to in my sig below. We make an effort to ease the install process, but there is a limit to what can be done if people don't read the documentation that is there.

Hardy · #5 07-21-2002, 06:53 AM

Most people don't even read the readme's, I sure the hell don't when I download stuff, I wanna figure it out on my own. This emu is the only thing I actually read. I would rather read forums where all the info is there, and see what other problems people have been having so I can try and dodge them. Say you are having a problem with the Admin tool, you can go into the Newbie forum and there will be a thread just for the Admin Tool to post problems etc... Sure beats trying to go through the win32 support forum and trying to find it.

Lurker_005 · #6 07-21-2002, 09:29 AM

Ahh, but then this is no longer a problem with documentation. I can understand wanting to "play with it" Sometimes you can learn a lot that way. But if people would just set it up the way described in the docs, there would be a lot less frustrated people out there. So instead of reading the docs, and setting it up in a hour or so. They spend 2 trying to figure it out, 2 reading the forums (or 5 min to post "Help me!!!!), the 2 more getting help from someone else. At that point the person helping has no clue what has, and hasn't been done right.

Find out where others are having problems? At least 60% of those are due to not reading the readme. Probably another 20% due to not knowing about their computer. There are always other things out of our control too. Verant decides to make a patch that breaks the emu or eqw, loginserver goes down for a bit, broadband routers blocking ports.

I don't mean to sound harsh or anything, I know sometimes it can come off that way. It is just that there are a lot of people that feel it is always easier to just ask someone to fix it for em rather than spend the time reading. They feel it is too hard, and that will always be true until they read the readme.

1337_Ch4rm3r · #7 07-21-2002, 09:49 AM

soo..uh...yeah...so they're gonna make a n00b forum page?? w00t1337!! k thx~ bai ^.^

Fire · #8 07-24-2002, 04:15 PM

And anyone that has so much free time as to spell with numbers instead of letters, slits their own throat.

donfi · #9 07-26-2002, 07:16 AM

I more or less aggree with Lurker. I spent 2 days reading the forum only after doing the set-up as shown in the readme at least 5 times, it may have been 7, before the first time I posted for help. I could not find the problem. It was mentioned and in fact spelled out but I had no idea that the emu downloaded from this website was not the current one.

If there is something to do it is keep that link current because if it had been set-up would have taken 30 minutes. The readme tells how to do it in terms that can be followed by anyone capable of reading and following directions.

As for 3rd party programs:
the admin tool
packet collecter
item editor
etc
they are all nice but a newbi forum would not help since there already exists a newbi forum for them. It is called 3rd party tools. This forum from what I have seen in the last week or two is very well organized. You can pretty much tell where to post before you click the new thread button. You can make a good guess at where other people would have posted for simular problems by scanning the names of the various forums. Creating a hodge podge forum (called newbi) and dumping a ton of questions and info in it would only make finding the information one needed that much harder.

This is just an opinion of someone who has only been using this emu/forum for a week or two.