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				10-17-2003, 03:47 AM
			
			
			
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				 Wow... 
 i just wanted to say wow, i just tryed to read the introduction to C++ programming and i am wordless, for those of you developing this holy crap great job. |  
	
		
	
	
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				10-17-2003, 04:18 AM
			
			
			
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			| Demi-God |  | 
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 They have a few things that book can't teach you: experience and talent. 
				__________________It's never too late to be something great.
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				10-17-2003, 04:32 AM
			
			
			
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			| Sarnak |  | 
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 You forgot dedication  
				__________________The downside of being better than everyone else, is that people have a tendancy to think you're pretentious.
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				10-17-2003, 04:38 AM
			
			
			
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			|  | Sarnak |  | 
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 jeez, do people have to crap on every comment made 
this was a com-pli-ment
 
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				10-17-2003, 05:13 AM
			
			
			
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			| Demi-God |  | 
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 Crap?  There were 2 compliments that followed. 
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			| Sarnak |  | 
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 Im with ya man, great job to all the dev's. I took a programming class in high school, and its tough. To practically recreate a game like EverQuest really takes "dedication" and talent. |  
	
		
	
	
 
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				10-17-2003, 06:42 AM
			
			
			
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			| Dragon |  | 
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 It's all about baby steps, unless you're some sort of genius.  For example, here's some baby steps one could take to for working with eqemu:
 1. Learn HTML and make a web page for your eqemu server
 2. Learn ASP or PHP and make the web page smarter
 3. Learn SQL and make the web page remember things
 4. Learn the EQEMu DB, and start displaying character stats on web page
 5. Learn C# and make a third party tool for editing character stats in the DB
 6. Learn basic C and start tweaking things here and there in EQEMu
 7. Learn advanced C and start messing around with packet data
 8. Learn basic C++ and start tweaking EQEMu architecture
 9. Learn advanced C++ and start designing EQEMu architecture
 10. Learn threading and network code and start tweaking how EQEMu handles clients
 11. Learn basic assembly and begin optimizing and debugging EQEMu
 12. Learn advanced assembly and start wearing shirts bearing encryption algorithms
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				10-17-2003, 07:03 AM
			
			
			
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 Wow, Iv learned everything up to #6! Yay |  
	
		
	
	
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 i am learning C++ and visual studio 6, and getting ready to buy visual studio C++ .net to really get into it. its an amazing language and alot of fun to learn. i hope to be able to help more with eqemu, maybe around .0.9.0 hehe.
 You guys rock for sure.
 
 Kg
 
 Ps what is C# is that C++++ or really just C#?
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				10-17-2003, 07:15 AM
			
			
			
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			| Dragon |  | 
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		| what is C# is that C++++ or really just C#? |  Ha, never noticed this - if you take 4 + symbols, you can make the # symbol.  Cool catch.
 
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				10-17-2003, 08:43 AM
			
			
			
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			|  | Demi-God |  | 
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 somone say hash pipe?
 
 *tokes up*
 
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GuildWars Co-Founder / World Builder. 
World Builder and Co-Founder Zek [PVP/Guild Wars/City Takeovers] 
Member of the "I hate devn00b" Club 
Most Senior EQEMu Member.
 
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				10-17-2003, 07:59 PM
			
			
			
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 hey, does #12 mean you have to ditch all the video game tshirts you got on your way to becoming the ASM guru before you get your advanced algorithm tshirts?? 
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				10-17-2003, 10:46 PM
			
			
			
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			| Demi-God |  | 
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 Thats right... True hackers are far to arrogant to wear the trappings of a common gamer..
 You have to get shirts that say things such as
 
 'Theres no place like 127.0.0.1'
 
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 'There are 10 types of people in this world,  those that understand binary and those that don't '
 
 
 I do want the simple one...
 
 'STFU'
 
 or,  even better
 
 'RTFM AND STFU'
 
				__________________Quitters never win, and winners never quit, but those who never win and never quit are idiots.
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 Since we're talking C programming, super-techies and arrogance... 
does anyone know what this little bit of C code does? <grin>
 
	Code:  #include <stdio.h>
 main(t,_,a)
 char *a;{return!0<t?t<3?main(-79,-13,a+main(-87,1-_,main(-86,0,a+1)+a)):1,t<_?main(t+1,_,a):3,main(-94,-27+t,a)&&t==2?_<13?main(2,_+1,"%s %d %d\n"):9:16:t<0?t<-72?main(_,t,"@n'+,#'/*{}w+/w#cdnr/+,{}r/*de}+,/*{*+,/w{%+,/w#q#n+,/#l+,/n{n+,/+#n+,/#\
;#q#n+,/+k#;*+,/'r :'d*'3,}{w+K w'K:'+}e#';dq#'l \q#'+d'K#!/+k#;q#'r}eKK#}w'r}eKK{nl]'/#;#q#n'){)#}w'){){n]'/+#n';d}rw' i;# \){nl]!/n{n#'; r{#w'r nc{nl]'/#{l,+'K {rw' iK{;[{nl]'/w#q#n'wk nw' \iwk{KK{nl]!/w{%'l##w#' i; :{nl]'/*{q#'ld;r'}{nlwb!/*de}'c \
;;{nl'-{}rw]'/+,}##'*}#nc,',#nw]'/+kd'+e}+;#'rdq#w!nr'/ ') }+}{rl#'{n' ')# \}'+}##(!!/"):t<-50?_==*a?putchar(31[a]):main(-65,_,a+1):
main((*a=='/')+t,_,a+1):0<t?main(2,2,"%s"):*a=='/'||main(0,main(-61,*a,"!ek;dc i@bK'(q)-[w]*%n+r3#l,{}:\nuwloca-O;m .vpbks,fxntdCeghiry"),a+1);
} and yes, it does compile and work.
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