PLEASE HELP!!!

TheJoseph07 · #1 03-05-2004, 02:49 PM

OK I need one of you ARCH-DATABASERS capable of educating the C++ Impaired community, in paticular, ME! I have the following:
1) The latest (0.5.2) EQEmu set of files from the sourceforge link
2) All programs suggested by server building tutorals
3) The LASTEST update, 0.5.5 DRU1
OK: Heres the deal, its not a problem or toubleshooting, its a basic "step by step" need. I have a working set of old files (The sourceforge link download set) and a BUNCH of .CPP, .H, ect WORD DOCUMENTS in the newest download. My question is simple:

How can I turn the EQEmulator 0.5.2 into a FULLY UPDATED AND FULLY OPERATING 0.5.5 DRU1 Server?

Do I just copy and paste the 0.5.5 DRU1 text into a certain file in my 0.5.2? Do I even need to KEEP my files from 0.5.2? What information goes into what file for my new DB? Please help me this is REALLY confusing and I know this kind of thing is annoying for you masters to deal with but I NEED HELP! Thx for your time

PLEASE GOD: If and when you answer my question, do it STEP BY STEP! I need to know what goes where and what dosent please, thx and gob bless yah if you can help!

nilar · #2 03-05-2004, 03:13 PM

You have to compile the 0.5.5 DR1 files. Which isn't that simple but try this guide.

TheJoseph07 · #3 03-06-2004, 01:21 AM

No good! The guide wont work, getting a DOS error, all I want is a completely update batch of SERVER files, I alsready have my DB files ready to go, can you explain how I get the server files updated or where I can download fully updated ones?

Monrezz · #4 03-06-2004, 01:53 AM

If you're getting and error you did something wrong, follow the guide exactly. You need to compile 5.5-DR1 and you'll be left with EmuShareMem.dll, World.exe and Zone.exe. Replace your old ones with these and you'll be upgraded.

But you need to compile, there is no official binary release and dont ask someone else to send you them.

TheJoseph07 · #5 03-06-2004, 02:05 AM

Well it refers to Visual Studio .NET 2003
Where to I get this? Does it come standard?
Can I download it somewhere?

Drux · #6 03-06-2004, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TheJoseph07

Well it refers to Visual Studio .NET 2003
Where to I get this? Does it come standard?
Can I download it somewhere?

Visual Studio .Net 2003 is a Commercial Microsoft product and cost arround

TheJoseph07 · #7 03-06-2004, 03:16 AM

OK Well if thes program costs $2,000 Why do all those servers have 0.5.5 DR1 Servers? What other programs cam be used to compile? Is there any other method?

TheJoseph07 · #8 03-06-2004, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Monrezz

But you need to compile, there is no official binary release and dont ask someone else to send you them.

What? If someone can send me the compiled files then why not? I obviously can't compile without a $2,000 program, so whats wrong?

If anyone with a 0.5.5 DR1 Server could email me the World.exe, Zone.exe, and Emusharemem.dll files compiled for a 0.5.5 DR1 server it would be GREATLY appreciated!

My email is: thejoseph07@yahoo.com

RexChaos · #9 03-06-2004, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TheJoseph07

If anyone with a 0.5.5 DR1 Server could email me the World.exe, Zone.exe, and Emusharemem.dll files compiled for a 0.5.5 DR1 server it would be GREATLY appreciated!

My email is: rex_dashiznat@hotmail.com

YEAH ME TOO!

cbarnes · #10 03-07-2004, 08:30 AM

It wouldn't help too much to have pre compiled files. Yes -- you wouldn't have to buy a $2000 program (you can actually get an educational version of .NET for tons less if you are a student) but you would have to rely on that person to recompile all your files everytime a new version is released (ie. if EQ Live patches and requires you to recompile)...

I would recommend attempting to obtain the educational version if at all possible.

RexChaos · #11 03-07-2004, 11:18 AM

I'm not going to spend several hundred dollars or more on a compiler just to run a server. Hell if I wamted to toss that money, I'd go back to playing EQ live.

As for someone compiling binaries every time the source is released...big deal. They're compiling them anyway for their own use right? What's so hard about posting it to a web site? When/if I figure out how to compile, I will be doing just that. I think it's ridiculous to have all these people needing to learn to compile just to set up a server. That's my opinion. Like it or lump it...

Daeath · #12 03-07-2004, 06:52 PM

Rex, I totally agree. For some reason, the EQEmu community feels it a certain tabbo, if you will, to share binaries of the emulator in these forums. I'm no coder, nor do I have the resources to aquire VS - I've made several requests for a perl enabled zone.exe for both .533 and .551, all with the same resonse: "compile it yourself." I don't get it - I'm willing to focus my energies on contributing to unfinished areas (see my post on PoN/SsraTemple loot), but to make new quests I have to divert time into accuring a complier and learning how to use it, when I could be spending that time in developing new areas for this wonderful program. I just hope that those who can code will freely distribute thier work, and *hopefully* those who cannot code will contribute in whatever way they know best.

PS - those with live accounts: put your money to good use - send us your logs! All your logs are belong to us!

samandhi · #13 03-08-2004, 12:48 AM

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Rex, I totally agree. For some reason, the EQEmu community feels it a certain tabbo, if you will, to share binaries of the emulator in these forums

It is NOT that they are taboo, it is just that it seems as though NOBODY that is asking for binaries, is reading what it says "NO SUPPORT, if you are not able to blah blah blah.. then you should NOT be downloading these files." The reason for this is because the devs and admins do NOT feel like they need to hold everyone's hand on this issue and help them compile (which would happen every time eqemu is updated). Either figure it out, or dont run it... Don't complain because there is NOT enough help on this issue, because truthfully and technically these files were NOT meant for you (you meaning the persons asking for help compiling).... Compiling on ANY C/C++ compiler can be done, but you have to know what you are doing.. It is NOT the scope of this board to teach you how to do this.. NO SUPPORT means NO SUPPORT..

The devs dont even have to tell you of an updated EQEMu, especially since it it NOT a release... This is the purpose of telling you DO NOT PATCH UNTIL TOLD YOU CAN.... Because the actual supported release is always going to be 1 or so patches behind the Developer's Release (which means person's that can compile, or experts if you will)...

Now, I am not trying to flame here, but I just get tired of seeing posts regarding this issue, and then people getting mad because no-one will help them on this... Hell, you have to agree to the terms (NO SUPPORT) before you can even download the files.. This is like saying, that you read them and agreed to them, but figured "what the hell, someone will help me out"...

And, please dont send me PM's asking for binaries. I have gotten many of these. I dont know C++ (am trying to learn as of 2 months ago), but I had to figure it out from the boards here how to do it. I did it and so can you.. Now when a new release comes out, I am able to keep up with the times. Try learning how to do some of this, and then you will feel like you are a part of the community, instead of begging for support, and being pissed because no one will help...Now, you will see that I try and help out where I can (when someone has errors or something goes wrong or something like that), but the people that make NO attempt to learn and do, they get the NO SUPPORT response from me...

If you want things hand-fed to you on a spoon, go back to EQLive all you have to do is pay a montly fee, and you are there...

Armanthuz · #14 03-08-2004, 02:28 AM

Its simple really ill break it down for you...

Why should they release code with (possibly) more bugs than usual to a bunch of people that dont give anything back in return but a bunch of shouts asking for support?

If you dont like to compile, dont like to bug test, in general dont know enough to help then why do you need them?

Short answer is your personal enjoyment... Thats cool but your not gonna motivate developers that way...

RexChaos · #15 03-08-2004, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by samandhi

Now, I am not trying to flame here, but I just get tired of seeing posts regarding this issue, and then people getting mad because no-one will help them on this... Hell, you have to agree to the terms (NO SUPPORT) before you can even download the files.. This is like saying, that you read them and agreed to them, but figured "what the hell, someone will help me out"...

Asking for the binaries and asking for support are two different things. A few people excluded, it appears that the majority of "support" here is "USE THE SEARCH". To me that's not support, that's the same as talking just to hear yourself talk. If you have nothing constructive to say (sorry..."use search" is not constructive), then just keep quiet. Those who just repeatedly type this "support" message are just adding to the junk posts. There are a few, such as yourself Sam, who actually do post help on a regular basis. That is appreciated.

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Originally Posted by samandhi

And, please dont send me PM's asking for binaries. I have gotten many of these. I dont know C++ (am trying to learn as of 2 months ago), but I had to figure it out from the boards here how to do it. I did it and so can you..

I'm not a programmer, have no intention of being a programmer, don't want to be a programmer, and will never be a programmer. Not everyone has the time or inclination to do that. Do I want to run a server? Yes. Do I look for bugs on other servers? Yes. Do I have to? No. Do you think this game would be as far as it is now without feedback from other people aside from programmers? No. Let's not take a "Well I did it, so you should too" type of stance on this. You know as well as I do that not everyone is going to do well at the same things. I expect to do a lot of hand holding when I get my friends into playing EQ through EQEMu. It does noone any good to alienate others or to have them get frustrated and quit. I'm sure we'd all like to see more stable servers with more people playing on them. For that to happen, it needs to be easy to do.

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Originally Posted by samandhi

Now when a new release comes out, I am able to keep up with the times. Try learning how to do some of this, and then you will feel like you are a part of the community, instead of begging for support, and being pissed because no one will help...Now, you will see that I try and help out where I can (when someone has errors or something goes wrong or something like that), but the people that make NO attempt to learn and do, they get the NO SUPPORT response from me...

I said it once and I'll say it again - Why does everyone need to reinvent the wheel? If you have a server working, why not share? If you don't want to share because of the work you've put into it, that's fine. Just say so. It's not the fact that I'm complaining about a lack of binaries...I'm complaining about the fact that there ARE binaries, but people treat it like the holy scriptures that Moses handed down. Can't give them to n00bs...that would be dangerous. As for arguing that they aren't stable yet. I've played on some 5.5 servers and there is some stability out there.

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Originally Posted by samandhi

If you want things hand-fed to you on a spoon, go back to EQLive all you have to do is pay a montly fee, and you are there...

This was my main reason for this reply...