Lack of documentation for 0.7.0

[cole89103]

whats with the lack of adequate documentation for 0.7.0???

there really isnt even any for 6.6

im sure the forums wouldnt be so clogged up with posts for 0.7.0 help if the wiki was updated to include documentation for the later versions of the emu

[attempt37]

Considering the version was released all of 2 weeks ago, why don't you give them some slack. The wiki documentation is written mostly by the people using the servers, not by the creators of the emu. They are too busy actually making this project work. Give it some time. The release isn't even a final version yet, they're still working the bugs out and as the sticky says it is still a beta version. As for 0.6.6 there is more than enough documentation on the wiki under the "ServerConfiguration" which is the last link under General Information in the server admin section. Additionally, cavedude has released an installer that will install the servers for people. The problem is that no one bothers to look at these things before they come here, and if they do look, they don't bother to read the sticky posts when they get here which answer a lot of the questions being asked. How many times does the community have to say that you can only use either the Titanium client or the 9/13 patch to play on the emu before people start searching?

[cole89103]

most devs never put a release live without some form of documentation to back it up notice how most people keep asking the same questions over and over? a it of documentation might be a plus and help with basic things... I write php and mysql and perl for that matter now that in mind i never release software even in a beta stage without documentation... and i dont quite think this server 7.0 is anywhere NEAR ready for the beta stage given the ammount of bugs, more like a pre alpha or alpha version, thing is most people ironicly DO Read the wiki there is just barely anything of any use in it...

[paaco]

Read the stuff for version 0.6.5 in the wiki. Most if not all of it is still relevant in an 0.7 install. Also I don't know what makes you think the wiki has almost no useful information, your crazy. Unless you have a very abnormal question between the forums and the Wiki, 90% of the time the answer is here.

[attempt37]

Originally Posted by cole89103

most devs never put a release live without some form of documentation to back it up notice how most people keep asking the same questions over and over? a it of documentation might be a plus and help with basic things... I write php and mysql and perl for that matter now that in mind i never release software even in a beta stage without documentation... and i dont quite think this server 7.0 is anywhere NEAR ready for the beta stage given the ammount of bugs, more like a pre alpha or alpha version, thing is most people ironicly DO Read the wiki there is just barely anything of any use in it...

If you think that there is barely anything of use in the wiki, then you haven't bothered to read the wiki. I thought you were originally complaining that there was no step by step walkthrough for setting up a 0.7.0 server, but it seems that what you were complaining about was that there was no information at all. That is not true. Everything you need to know in order to play on or create your own server, whether it be 6.6 or 7.0 is there. All the information for installing perl and mysql is there. All the links to programs that would help you tweak quests or create items is there. The questions that keep getting asked over and over here are for the most part answered in the wiki. People just have to be willing to read the documentation, not just their titles. Granted there are questions asked on these forums that are valid, like the questions about bugs that just cropped up with the new 7.0 version, but as I said before (and the front page of eqemulator.net says) the version was released with bugs. The reason it was released at all is so that people could get back to using the emu since it was still working on the 9/13 patch that no one can really get a hold of legally.

All that said, I'll repeat myself again, all the documentation needed to set up a server is in the wiki, people just need to be willing to read the documents and not just the titles.

We have 2 developers working on this project....yep thats correct, 2.

Would you rather get work done or have them spend time idiot proofing all the information?

All the information anyone needs to compile / modify the code, start and run a server or just play on someone elses is there if you bother to look.

And just FYI almost everyone who comes here quoting there experience arent even out of highschool yet.


Once you have been here for more then a couple weeks you will see how things are here. Till then ether leave or stop complaining about this 100% free service. Not one person here is being paid to do it, sorry it isnt to YOUR standards.

[cole89103]

First of all ive been out of highschool 11 years and college for 6 years
secondly i run my own business, so kindly keep your condescending remarks to yourself. Me personally id liek it to actually WORK completely seems you are going the route soe does insead of fixing whats wrong you go and pop out a new verson with even more broken then there was before and then push it out to a live release. now lets take a look at this situation 2 developers ok so why not focus on fixing whats broken and gettiing everything that is already there WORKING and tested extensivly before making it live then ontop of that adding a more broken stuff to it... gotta eat the meat and veggies before the desert. and you have way more then two devs because its open source (Means you got anyone who can code also working on it fixing bugs that should have already been worked on)

Ive been here long enough to see you admins jump peoples shit for anything just cause you dont like what they have to say... or they say it in the wrong place ( And everyone btches about reading the wiki... heres a thought make it more userfriendly and with a better navigation then there is presently and make it a bit more detailed) And you wonder why your little project stays little*RME*