How do I stop players from spawning in Crescent Reach?

[Lucia Moore]

I don't even see it as an option in the start_zones table!

I changed it so that players start in the old Freeport rather than the new one, and now they spawn in Crescent Reach whenever you try to create one in Freeport!

[Nydosa]

Titanium clients will spawn wherever it says in startzone in the Variables table. There are also start zone variables in rule_values.

[Lucia Moore]

I don't see anything in rule_values or variables that lets me select player start zones.

[rencro]

Its a custom rule..

To enable it you need to insert it into your db..

If you set SOFstartzone to -1 and remove the tutorial option then whatever you set in the "variables" table for startzone will send "everybody" there, to the zones safe coords..

ie...

INSERT INTO `variables` (`varname`,`value`,`information`) VALUES 
    ('startzone','tutoriala','Setting default Startzone for all clients and races to TutorialA');

UPDATE `rule_values` SET `rule_value`='false' WHERE `rule_name` = 'World:EnableTutorialButton';

This assumes that the result of this query is -1

SELECT * from `rule_values` WHERE `rule_name` = 'World:SoFStartZoneID';

[Lucia Moore]

Originally Posted by rencro

Its a custom rule..

To enable it you need to insert it into your db..

If you set SOFstartzone to -1 and remove the tutorial option then whatever you set in the "variables" table for startzone will send "everybody" there, to the zones safe coords..

ie...

INSERT INTO `variables` (`varname`,`value`,`information`) VALUES 
    ('startzone','tutoriala','Setting default Startzone for all clients and races to TutorialA');

UPDATE `rule_values` SET `rule_value`='false' WHERE `rule_name` = 'World:EnableTutorialButton';

This assumes that the result of this query is -1

SELECT * from `rule_values` WHERE `rule_name` = 'World:SoFStartZoneID';

That's fine and all, but I'm not having trouble with players starting in the Mines of Gloomingdeep. I took care of that already. I'm having problems with players being able to start in Crescent Reach, an entirely different zone.

Also, I'm getting an issue where new players that pick "East Freeport" or "West Freeport" on the character creation menu start in Crescent Reach.

[rencro]

errr. you can put whatever zone name you want there, and my example is tutorial A not B, because thats where I send players too, remember tutoriala, the small jail cell where you first meet Arias and have to kill the kobold.......Again if you want Crescent Reach, put Crescent Reach...Put whatever you want, sorry if I wasnt clear...

[Kingly_Krab]

You can use this to see how your rules are set, these must be set to the zone you want people to start in.

SELECT * FROM rule_values WHERE rule_name IN ("World:SoFStartZoneID", "World:TutorialZoneID");

You can also use this query to mass update everystart_zone to the same X, Y, Z, Heading, and Zone ID, just in case they're not all set to the same thing.

UPDATE start_zones SET x = 'VALUE', y = 'VALUE', z = 'VALUE', heading = 'VALUE', zone_id = 'VALUE', start_zone = zone_id, bind_x = x, bind_y = y, bind_z = z;

[Lucia Moore]

Originally Posted by Kingly_Krab

You can use this to see how your rules are set, these must be set to the zone you want people to start in.

SELECT * FROM rule_values WHERE rule_name IN ("World:SoFStartZoneID", "World:TutorialZoneID");

You can also use this query to mass update everystart_zone to the same X, Y, Z, Heading, and Zone ID, just in case they're not all set to the same thing.

UPDATE start_zones SET x = 'VALUE', y = 'VALUE', z = 'VALUE', heading = 'VALUE', zone_id = 'VALUE', start_zone = zone_id, bind_x = x, bind_y = y, bind_z = z;

My start zones are set, the problem is the server is kicking people into Crescent Reach if I try to get them to spawn. My only assumption is that I screwed something up, but I can't for the life of me determine what it was.

[rencro]

By chance is the "tutorial" button enabled when the character is created, I assume you may have reassigned the tutorial zone to 0 and its trying to send your characters to tutorial, but when it cant find a proper zone id it craps out to its last choice which is Crescent Reach. Perhaps try disabling the tutorial button as well..

I built a new peq today, and created a human agnostic monk. If I have tutorial enabled, world will spit out:

No starts_zones entry in database, using defaults

Then I start in tutorial zone which is tutorialB

Then created new human agnostic monk and unclicked tutorial:

Found starting location in start_zones

And it puts me in qeynos2 as it should

What does your world report after creating new chars, and by chance have you changed the WorldTutorialZoneID?

[Lucia Moore]

Originally Posted by rencro

By chance is the "tutorial" button enabled when the character is created, I assume you may have reassigned the tutorial zone to 0 and its trying to send your characters to tutorial, but when it cant find a proper zone id it craps out to its last choice which is Crescent Reach. Perhaps try disabling the tutorial button as well..

I built a new peq today, and created a human agnostic monk. If I have tutorial enabled, world will spit out:

No starts_zones entry in database, using defaults

Then I start in tutorial zone which is tutorialB

Then created new human agnostic monk and unclicked tutorial:

Found starting location in start_zones

And it puts me in qeynos2 as it should

What does your world report after creating new chars, and by chance have you changed the WorldTutorialZoneID?

It looks like people are reading the replies to my post without actually reading what I typed.

People aren't spawning in the tutorial zone, they're spawning in Crescent Reach when I choose to spawn in Freeport.

This issue only happens when I try to have someone spawn in the OLD Freeport. Spawning in Qeynos works just fine for human characters, but any time I pick either West Freeport or East Freeport off of the list of starting zones, I spawn in Crescent Reach instead. The tutorial button is not clicked.

To reiterate: I changed all of the start_zone entries that were aimed at the NEW Freeport zones to the OLD Freeport zones, and I updated the XYZ coordinates to a valid location. Attempting to start in Freeport instead spawns players in Crescent Reach. There is no server error feedback indicating why this is happening, and I cannot find anything in the start_zones entries pointing to Crescent Reach either.

[rencro]

FFS read what IIIIIIIII IIII TYPE....

Im done with you

[Kingly_Krab]

Are you sure the client you're using has the old zones? Would you mind using #zone to go there and see if it works, if it doesn't, that's why it's putting you in Crescent Reach, if you can go there, the problem lies elsewhere.

[Kingly_Krab]

Here is what my settings look like:

Rule Values:


Start Zones:

[rencro]

Some "people" dont appreciate being referred to as "people" when said "person" is trying to help, instead they get this rude note,

It looks like people are reading the replies to my post without actually reading what I typed.

and then none of the instructions given were followed, except later in your UPDATE post , you seemed to have woken up...

Okay, I'm getting an error message now (or, at least, I'm looking at the correct window now)

You know its not very easy giving support to others when you have no clue what they have done on their end, so we must ask for bits of info to help us determine whats going on, but you have the attitude throughout all your post that:

You assume incorrectly. I never modified the tutorial zone settings. I would never set a zone setting to 0, because I'm well aware that could cause a big problem.

So you already know all the answers and my pesky probing is bugging you, so I will stop bugging you....

[Lucia Moore]

Originally Posted by rencro

Some "people" dont appreciate being referred to as "people" when said "person" is trying to help, instead they get this rude note,



and then none of the instructions given were followed, except later in your UPDATE post , you seemed to have woken up...



You know its not very easy giving support to others when you have no clue what they have done on their end, so we must ask for bits of info to help us determine whats going on, but you have the attitude throughout all your post that:



So you already know all the answers and my pesky probing is bugging you, so I will stop bugging you....

I didn't intend to offend you, and clearly I have, so I apologize. I can assure you that trying to fix this issue is as frustrating for me as my responses are to you. I understand that you're trying to help, and I appreciate it. I feel that it's as much my fault for being unfamiliar enough with EQEmu to provide the information needed for proper troubleshooting.

This seems like a really stupid problem to have, and simply changing the start_zone should work, but it doesn't, and I'm at a loss as to why specifically because I'm new to this and don't have all of the answers.

Kingly_Krab
You seem to have everyone spawn in the same zone, though. That's fine, but what I want to do is simply make it so that newbies start in the old Freeport instead of the new one, and I'm starting to suspect that it may require a source code change to do that. I still don't know why my server is still saying "WHERE zone_id = 383", but that's why it's not working. It's still looking for the Freeport revamp, and when it fails to find that, it defaults to Crescent Reach.