Petition to devs against loginserver

[Artadius]

This is an open petition to the developers/coders of the AGX/EQEmu project to work on and release a workaround so that users of the emu are not forced to use a non-local loginserver to get into a local server.

There has been quite a bit of uproar about this limitation of 0.2.0.

If you agree that you should not be forced to login to another person's server just to login to your own local server, please add a reply to this post. Feel free to add comments as to why you feel this way.

Some popular reasons as to why some folks are upset about this limitation are:

-Some users run the emu on servers which have little or no access to the internet

-Some users are wary of keeping an open gateway to a stranger's network

-It just takes up time

-Some international users are charged on a per connect basis to their ISP and want to avoid said charges as much as possible

-Some users just want to quickly test some database changes and don't want to have to worry about locking their server, or keeping unwanted login queries away

Recent comments from some of the coders lead users to believe that a localhost version of the login server is quite a long ways off. Many of us feel that this should be a priority now that they are forcing the emu users to use a non local loginserver.

Thank you.

[Hmm]

not to talk about lessening traffic on emu server.

yah i like to set private server.not too worried about waiting a bit heh but would love to have that.

[n00b8472]

Hear, hear!

A local login server, or workaround is definately needed.

[IpakAgun]

agree.

[madborg]

I admit I was not wild about going to frags and in fact I didn't ever use the login server in previous versions.

But don't let this one little point stop you from trying out 0.2 -- for those that can -- for the good things that it has in it. I swear it will make you go out and buy SoL if you haven't done so yet.

No one has said that you won't be able to have a private login and chat server, but right now its probably not the top priority for the project team.

[Drawde]

Surely this "centralisation" is the complete antithesis of what an emulator is supposed to be about.
I'm certainly not going to be doing any work on my spawn data for a while until a login server is done, I really don't want to have to connect to the Net and create a server every time I want to check out a minor database change.
Although the emulator team have done some absolutely brilliant work recently on adding features like spells to the emulator, I really think that this is a complete mistake. Surely all they need to do is make the login server program available for download?

[Hmm]

well.. i cant set my own server at all. router wont allow anyone to connect to my server, incuding myself.

[Ulu]

I agree! No central Login server.

Another major point that people are missing is the fact that if (when?) verant/sony go after gotfrags they will get all the IPs of users.

Plus the whole eqemu project has a single point of failure! Take out the login server. No more users using eqEMU. Why should the coders paint a big target on the back of the gotfrags operator.

Full stop end of story.

At least if the coders release a Binary only Local login server then they at least allow the project to live on. Better yet release the source and they dont have to worry (as much *grin*).

[Ulu]

I agree! No central Login server.

Another major point that people are missing is the fact that if (when?) verant/sony go after gotfrags they will get all the IPs of users.

Plus the whole eqemu project has a single point of failure! Take out the login server. No more users using eqEMU. Why should the coders paint a big target on the back of the gotfrags operator.

Full stop end of story.

At least if the coders realease a Binary only Local login server then they at least allow the project to live on. Better yet realease the source and they dont have to worry.

[Bunga]

I definatly agree. Please, either release a local version of the login server, or release a proper workaround.

[Stud]

Jeesh...baby steps guys...baby steps. If I was the devs, I'd be sorry for even puttin 2.0 out about now. They coulda waited until they had the whole package all put in a bundle 6 months down the road!

Want local? stick with 1.9 till the LS code is far less in its infancy. Personally I would rather not have them take away time from Emu development to work on a local login server at this point.

You can ask the question, "why should I suffer with 1.9 when 2.0 has more ?" and your answer would be that 2.0 wouldn't even be out yet, if it had everything you are wanting, so you'd still be on 1.9 anyways.

[Kortalh]

Originally Posted by Ulu

I agree! No central Login server.

Another major point that people are missing is the fact that if (when?) verant/sony go after gotfrags they will get all the IPs of users.

While I definately agree there should be an option that allows people to keep their servers private, I cannot agree with what you said, Ulu.

A central server is, in my opinion, a very good idea for the EQEmu community. Using this, an especially good server can be easily accessed by many, and newcomers to the community can easily showcase their creations to others.

Also, as has been discussed many times on the message boards, the Emulator is not illegal. Because of that, Verant cannot "go after" gotfrags.com.

Anyhow, I'm not intending to flame you in any manner - merely arguing my case. =)

-Kortalh

[Pyrotek]

I suggested awhile ago that we release a special "Localhost only" loginserver for testing purposes. Now that we are using the live client I believe we'll get to that soon. Just be patient.

[Bunga]

...so you are not intending to release a real login server? That kinda sucks, as it means I will never be able to use this emu.

[DeletedUser]

There is no ability to "work around" the login server anymore, blame Verant for requiring eqmain.dll, not us.