You know, i sat here, and i pondered whether to just be an ass and flame you guys, or to try to develop some sort of arguement supporting non legit play.........what i've come to is the conclusion that it doesn't matter what i post, the reaction will still be the same.
i will say a few things though.
TRUE: players that exploit bugs should be dealt with....but who's fault is it really? Isn't the best way to stop someone from exploiting a bug........now get this........by FIXING OR REMOVING THE BUG?.....i've always felt the same way about exploiting bugs in EQLive......remove the temptation and there won't be a problem.
TRUE: cheat items are bad for the game, particularly connectivity and server integrity. but would it not be prudent to simply remove these items from the datatbase? what's that you say, there are too many to feasibly remove them all? how about start with the ones that cause known problems, like the LOH rings, the soul devourers, the insta click DD items and so forth. it's easy enough to go into your database and nix particular items, no? (i know this doesn't apply to all servers, since most legit servers don't implement #summonitem).
TRUE: if someone doesn't like legit play, they should feel free to go play on a non legit server. that is getting harder and harder to do. there is ONE stable legit server to date. and the mods there say it will soon be going legit. This blows my mind for many reasons; chief among them is the fact that it is the most popular non-green server based on 2 criteria 1). server stability 2). it is non legit. Sure, there are plenty of non-legit servers out there, but they are all flash in the pan servers (i.e. usually gone after a few days). Most will tell you (especially frequent forum posters) that this is because EVERYONE wants legit play.............this could be no further from the truth. all evidence suggests that the MAJORITY of EQEmu players are against legit play.
pro legit players will argue that the numbers indicate that most players use legit servers.............could this be that because in the recent months the only stable servers with any staying power have gone legit? could it be because players are being FORCED to play on legit servers? "now now Rag, no one is forcing you to do anything.........."okay then, i'll just go and play on another server.....oh look at that....the only servers that are currently up are all legit....
see what i mean?
when i've asked server ops and admins about removing the bugs and items that are being exploited, they always say, without fail "we're looking into that. you have to understand that the db is HUGE, and there are still many many bugs to be dealt with". while i can emphathize, i also have to point out that you've already gone to the trouble of creating your own server, customizing databases and countless other programs, and put in hundreds of hours towards development and so on, yet there are still THOUSANDS of bugs....
this is what i'm getting at....how can ANYONE even begin to fathom playing on a "legit" server with so many bugs in place?? i have tried so hard to understand this, but i simply can't. most "legit" servers aren't even populated with mobs to fight, let alone loot and quests (which i might add, is the real point of EQ, it says so in the name :P).
The answer to this question is always the same "EQEmu still has a long way to go".....that's right, it has a long way to go. a long way. and forcing your players to play legit on a buggy, empty, and unstable server is, for lack of a better word, and not to belittle those involved.....stupid. The point of any game is to have fun, no? and i fully understand that legit players are having fun on their legit servers. but there's something you should all understand.
not everyone wants legit play to be forced on them.
many of you have shown disdain for those few individuals who "ruined it for the rest of us" on GuildWars. I have news that may come as a shock to many of you..............the MAJORITY of players on GuildWars were using exploits. these exploits were cited many times a dayin /ooc, surely you must remember that. In fact, I will bet REAL MONEY that there is at least two of the above posters (slamming exploiters no less) who were KNOWN EXPLOITERS on Guildwars........hypocrasy at its best, no?
here's a QUOTE from an above post: There are PLENTY of other servers to cheat on. You can have any item you want and be as powerful as you can possibly. With all this available to you, why must you bring it to the legit server(s)? I hope you all rot in hell.
first of all, there aren't "plenty" of other servers to "cheat" on.....second of all, why is it cheating? as stated before, can it be called cheating when there's really no other way to get items (some servers' loot tables are better than others' admitedly). don't get me wrong, i absolutely HATE to see /ooc spammed by people saying "what's the best pally armor?" "best haste in game?" and so on......i have no love for people who can't do their own research.....and i also have no love for people who don exploit and GM items that they should NOT have access to.......but what, i ask, is wrong with gearing up with items that are available in EQLive, especially when you're dealing with an unstable server that may or may not even exist tomorrow?
the other thing i'll comment on from that post is the "I hope you all rot in hell" statement......you DO remember this is just a game, right? and you DO remember you're paying absolutely no money, right?.....right?......
the only other thing i want to comment on is something i've noticed only very recently.......Legit players don't like non-legit players........it reminds me so much of the disdain PVP players have for non-PVP players, that attitude that if you don't do it my way then you're nothing........Let me say this, i have NOTHING against legit play. IN THEORY it's a cool idea, but in practicallity, and this is MY OWN OPINION, it is stupid. i would love to see it work, but to date, no evidence has shown me that it can. while i've seen plenty of level 65s on legit servers, one must ask oneself how they did it......did they REALLY do it legitimately? did they actually level the way one would do so in EQ, with all the downtime and skill building involved? or did they simply throw on their can o' whoop ass and veeshan's peak no rent swords?
there's one fact that everyone seems to be overlooking, and it IS fact. non legit players have existed FAR LONGER here than legit players. to think that people were drawn here initially for "legit" play is ludicrous. every single one of us logged on to EQEmu for the exact same reason; to take advantage of the item database. not for the swell dynamic quest content, not for the social player base, but to simply twink out their dream toon. while i can understand that many of you would deny this, i don't need validation to know this is truth. it's common sense. it's common knowledge in fact.
so let me leave you guys who are all pissed off at exploiters and non legit players with a little advice. don't assume that the majority of eqemu players have any interest whatsoever in legit play. just because it's your bible to thump doesn't mean it's what we all want, or ever asked for. and it's clear that legit players are the most vocal of the fanbase, unfortunately. but DO try to have some consideration for non legit players....and don't assume that all non legit players simply want to be the most uber characters around and set out to take advantage of exploits.
and of course you're going to say "if you don't like it, then leave" i would have to say the same to you. i have played on EQEmu since darn near the beginning, and only in the last few weeks has it really begun to be not so fun. I attribute this to the sudden "suppression" of non legit play and players. folks, we were here long before you. and i dare say we will be here long after you decide that the whole EQEmu project was a failure. so please don't try to force your style of play on everyone else, or to belittle someone simply because they don't share your playstyle. most of us respect yours, try to respect ours.
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