Ya i agree with Ramones as being probably the first real Punks, but....they didn't really have the attire....which is a minor detail IMO. You're right it is about the beliefs. And no, the modern-day "punk" bands don't really have 'em or else they've lost their way after becoming famous. People- Green Day, Blink, etc etc these are not punk bands these are >>Alternative<< call it "Nu" punk if u want but whatever.
Hey Lasiel I wear T-shirts and cargo pants, go to a private school in the Bible Belt, but I'm an anarchist and an atheist and a pacifist and anti-corporate and anti-conservative. So even though I don't have the clothes, does that make me punk?
And I still think British people make better punks tho. That accent gives it a little something.
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