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04-02-2005, 02:14 AM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 37
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I just wanna say its fucking bullshit that you guys closed down the server, many people donated hard erned money to the server. You cant just close it b/c a coupple faggots were being disrespectful. Devnoob, I kno there were alot of people saying shit, but come on its an online game, this isnt real life and besiede a coupple retards, alot of people really respected the work you and image put into the server. If anything, bring GW back for the donators, the people who supported the server, and filter out the jackasses that didnt appreciate it.
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04-02-2005, 03:05 AM
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Dragon
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 583
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GW down to staff drama?
Who'd have thought.
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04-02-2005, 03:32 AM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Heaven.
Posts: 1,260
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Originally Posted by Wiz
GW down to staff drama?
Who'd have thought.
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My thoughts exactly.
On a side note, let me just say now that if this thread gets too roudy it will be locked.
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04-02-2005, 03:58 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Sacramento, CA USA
Posts: 14
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Here's a link to my irc log. I was afk for the whole thing so I didn't know about this crap until this morning.
http://techrono.net/other/guildwars.txt
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04-02-2005, 04:51 AM
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Dragon
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Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 776
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Disappointing to hear - I was really interested in how guildwars would shape up this time around, because it's a really good concept for a pvp server using eq mechanics.
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04-02-2005, 03:11 AM
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Demi-God
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,066
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People have donated some hard earned money to keep the server up, and according to the donation schedule they were paid THRU the end of May.
If you must close the server, especially on a petty issue like this, I think it's only appropriate that all persons who sent a donation for April or May get refunded.
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04-02-2005, 03:25 AM
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Dragon
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 583
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Originally Posted by RangerDown
People have donated some hard earned money to keep the server up, and according to the donation schedule they were paid THRU the end of May.
If you must close the server, especially on a petty issue like this, I think it's only appropriate that all persons who sent a donation for April or May get refunded.
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Clearly they were disrespectful bitches who deserve nothing back.
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04-02-2005, 05:04 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 15
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Originally Posted by RangerDown
People have donated some hard earned money to keep the server up, and according to the donation schedule they were paid THRU the end of May.
If you must close the server, especially on a petty issue like this, I think it's only appropriate that all persons who sent a donation for April or May get refunded.
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Originally Posted by RangerDown
I think it's only appropriate that all persons who sent a donation for April or May get refunded.
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Originally Posted by RangerDown
refunded.
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ahahahahahahaha
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04-02-2005, 05:19 AM
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Dragon
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Earth
Posts: 818
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refund
asking for a refund is silly...
I think the term donate...means just that....
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I want a refund from that bum I gave a dollar to... he didnt use it for food.
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04-02-2005, 05:26 AM
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Dragon
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 583
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Originally Posted by sdabbs65
asking for a refund is silly...
I think the term donate...means just that....
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I want a refund from that bum I gave a dollar to... he didnt use it for food.
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If you donate to the Red Cross, would you be a-OK with them spending the money on booze?
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04-02-2005, 06:29 AM
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Sarnak
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 39
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Guild Wars was a perfect example of people who have great ideas, good programming skills and not enough PR savvy. It would have been a great server if those guys (Image/Dev) were the main design team but someone else actually ran the server.
Don't get me wrong, there were a lot of idiotic low-lifes that had absolutely no appreciation for the hard work that was put into creating and running the server- and that has got to be frustrating. But frankly, Image, but moreover Dev honestly, had some serious powertrip/ego issues and little to no patience.
Again, I respect the hard work and diligence that went into the server, but because of wide variety of ages and, uh, "mental capacities", of some of the player base, it takes a very mature, "non-ego-based" personality to keep the server up and running smoothly. Clearly, this wasn't the case here, as evidenced by the numerous times the server has been up and down and up and down again.
Great ideas, not enough management skill- but hey, not everyone is cut out for dealing with the fickle and often rancorous public. God knows, it's not an easy job.
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04-02-2005, 06:52 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1
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About "donations"
"I think the term donate...means just that...."
You were right if this was actually a donation situation.
A donation to the law is the of giving to a fund or a cause; it's a gift, a grant. If you stick to that it does sound right for GW case.
However take a look at the definition of a contract and let's see the differences.
It is set of promises made by one party to another for the breach of which the law provides a remedy. The promise or promises may be express (either written or oral) or may be implied from circumstances.
In the case of GW, they were taking so-called "donations" and promising to keep the server up for "X" amount of time with it. But the main problem is that donators were actually getting advantages and services from it such as guildwars "donator" items. It was more like "We are taking donations for the month of may and for every X$ you get you will receive this".
Hence according to that mere fact, it is a contract and they have to either respect their engagement or refund the buyers. That's right they were buyers not donators because they did receive their share in the trade.
GW can't hide behind the laws there saying it was a "donation". Any company would offer you services for money down and call it a donation when they feel like dropping you. You can't call it a donation if there's an actual exchange/trade proper to this very donation. It's a contract *period*
Thank you
p.s. I did not donate I just wanted to set things straight and I don't really mind if they closed the server.
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04-02-2005, 06:59 AM
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Hill Giant
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 145
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Originally Posted by Wiz
If you donate to the Red Cross, would you be a-OK with them spending the money on booze?
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Tax deduction.
On a side note, I am very sad to see GW down especially after such a limited amount of time. My only respectable job as a GM down the drain within a month's time.
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04-02-2005, 09:00 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 2
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This is fucking ridiculous. Why in the hell would you guys close down a server because a couple people were talkin shit about you? As ADMINS and owners of the server you let a couple fuckers that could easily be banned destroy the game?
A couple people talk shit and you guys break down and turn off the server... Does that make ANY fuckin sense? Jesus christ don't be so sensitive, don't let jackasses get to you like that.
If a couple customers of Sony decided to talk shit and insult the CEOs do you think that Sony would EVER stop what they're doing or actually change anything because of a couple dipshits?
It doesn't make any sense guys, a simple ban would have rid those faggots from the server. If they're not grateful, why the fuck would you let them play on the server nonetheless shut down the server because of them.
No offense but you need to claim ownership of your goddamn server.
Last edited by Ditrivo; 04-02-2005 at 05:03 PM..
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04-02-2005, 09:14 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: .
Posts: 25
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if you banned everyone that hated devnoob, the server would have 3 people and theyd have to close it down anyway
also, this is how GW2.5 ended. People called out devnoob on his retarded actions and he had a fit and destroyed the server. No one will miss him/it.
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