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General::Server Discussion Discussion about emulator servers. Do not post support topics here. |

04-02-2005, 10:21 AM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 3
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if you guys dont like the way the server was run, dont play there. devnoob never bothered me, and i enjoyed playing on GW except when the players there acted like dickheads. way to get the server shut down assholes.
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04-02-2005, 11:18 AM
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Speaking as someone who has been around for a wile, the reason Guild Wars was / is going downhill is because of the players. I REFUSE to play on the server because of the players not because of the admins, it seams like GW has always attracted the bottom of the barrel player wise.
To put it bluntly, its not your server its there server and if they want to delete gear / points thats there right, if they want to permanatly ban anyone who creats a character with the letter "L" in there name thats there rght.
All the players who complain about how it is run and whats done should find a server thats run the way they want, not one person has ever been forced to play on any server so stop the drama and start a server and run it the way you want instead of complaining and acting like 4 year olds.
This isnt YOUR server, its not YOUR project, stop expecting stuff and be thankfull for what people are nice enough to spend time making, and if you dont like it FIND SOMEPLACE YOU DO LIKE! I dont know how many server have been shut down because the admin got sick of idiotic players.
EDIT And the next person to go off cursing will be banned from the forums till i feel like letting them back, I dont care who you think you are the forums have rules and keeping cursing down is a rule.
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04-02-2005, 11:22 AM
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Discordant
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Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 311
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Well Mattmeck, unless I don't know something, they closed the server and dissapeared with $300.00 and some new hardware.
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04-02-2005, 11:24 AM
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Ok so discuss that, not about everything you hated about it, if people hated it so much why did they play there?
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04-02-2005, 11:27 AM
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Discordant
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Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 311
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This is exactly why I didn't donate and why I didn't put my time into leveling a character.
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04-02-2005, 12:03 PM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 3
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Virus11
Well Mattmeck, unless I don't know something, they closed the server and dissapeared with $300.00 and some new hardware.
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with all the time and money they put into this, i doubt they broke even with the donations they got. im sure they payed more than 300 out of pocket to maintain the server.
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04-02-2005, 12:16 PM
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Hill Giant
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 139
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Mattmeck generally summed up my feelings.
I played on GuildWars, but honestly, the amount of little farts running around thinking they were "leet" turned me away very quickly. I quit at lvl 30, not surprisingly, as that was the lvl I was forced to join 1 of a couple guilds, all run by power hungry losers.
I promptly moved back to good ol' PEQ, sure the population may not be what it used to be, but just about every person I've met on that server has been helpful and considerate... Something almost unheard of on the GW server.
All in all, what do I have to say about the death of GW? Meh.
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04-02-2005, 12:52 PM
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Fire Beetle
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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Posts: 25
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Guildwars was paid through until the end of may via donations. Image says it costs something like 174 a month to keep the server up
so yes, they just made over $300 in donations that will not be going towards the server. Thanks for not knowing what your talking about.
Also, "matt", your absolutely right. They can do whatever they want with their server, and they have. That is why they crashed and burned for a second time, because they do whatever they want which pisses all the players off. Each iteration of guildwars has less and less people because of it.
I played there because its free and its fun. I have fun pvping people in classic eq. I am also allowed to be critical of anyone i want. If they dont like me, they can ban me (and they have). However, when 90% of the players are critical of them, that is when the server dies. That is what happened last night. They cant ban everyone for disagreeing. At some point they need to just realize they are a failed team and a failed project and their players are never comnig back. Time to close down the shop.
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04-02-2005, 12:56 PM
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Dragon
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 583
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MethodSZ
Guildwars was paid through until the end of may via donations. Image says it costs something like 174 a month to keep the server up
so yes, they just made over $300 in donations that will not be going towards the server. Thanks for not knowing what your talking about.
Also, "matt", your absolutely right. They can do whatever they want with their server, and they have. That is why they crashed and burned for a second time, because they do whatever they want which pisses all the players off. Each iteration of guildwars has less and less people because of it.
I played there because its free and its fun. I have fun pvping people in classic eq. I am also allowed to be critical of anyone i want. If they dont like me, they can ban me (and they have). However, when 90% of the players are critical of them, that is when the server dies. That is what happened last night. They cant ban everyone for disagreeing. At some point they need to just realize they are a failed team and a failed project and their players are never comnig back. Time to close down the shop.
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Learning when to listen and when not to listen to players is very important. At the very least a server admin should always take some time to hear the complaints, even if they disagree with them. No admin or dev team is perfect, and there is always room for improvement. If you listen to players about the little problems and fix them, it will also encourage the players to help you with the big problems.
Really, in the end, everyone wins from listening, just as long as you don't confuse "listening" with "agreeing". 
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04-02-2005, 12:48 PM
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Dragon
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 583
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mattmeck
Speaking as someone who has been around for a wile, the reason Guild Wars was / is going downhill is because of the players. I REFUSE to play on the server because of the players not because of the admins, it seams like GW has always attracted the bottom of the barrel player wise.
To put it bluntly, its not your server its there server and if they want to delete gear / points thats there right, if they want to permanatly ban anyone who creats a character with the letter "L" in there name thats there rght.
All the players who complain about how it is run and whats done should find a server thats run the way they want, not one person has ever been forced to play on any server so stop the drama and start a server and run it the way you want instead of complaining and acting like 4 year olds.
This isnt YOUR server, its not YOUR project, stop expecting stuff and be thankfull for what people are nice enough to spend time making, and if you dont like it FIND SOMEPLACE YOU DO LIKE! I dont know how many server have been shut down because the admin got sick of idiotic players.
EDIT And the next person to go off cursing will be banned from the forums till i feel like letting them back, I dont care who you think you are the forums have rules and keeping cursing down is a rule.
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The fact that it's their right to do so doesn't make it a non-assholish thing to do. It's my right to refuse to give first aid supplies to a guy who's bleeding out, but jesus would I be an ass.
A person who would delete a players' time invested for no other reason than that they felt like it shouldn't even be entrusted to staff an ant farm, and certainly not a server that makes any claims to be more than "joes non-legit kill teh quarm!".
"Like it or leave it" is a terrifyingly bad argument as well, you can like something without enjoying every aspect of it. If I hate olives, but have to eat them in order to eat steak, I'll still eat steak because steak rules, but I'd much rather be without the olives.
(And yes I know that was a lot of metaphores)
Last edited by Wiz; 04-02-2005 at 08:52 PM..
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